SHIRTS: Which One Is Best ??

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On Jun 15, 11:17 pm, wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:58 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:



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On Jun 15, 10:46 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:
Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
best
material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
Thanks
The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
kind, so must be the best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...parel/2008-ass...
You can't road race with it.
-ilan
Why do they not allow people to race in sleeveless jerseys?
This is how people dress in the hottest areas on earth:http://www.dkimages.com/discover/pre...50160242.JPGso less is
not always better.

-ilan

Every once in a while I see on TV that mad multi-day running marathon
in Morocco or wherever, and wonder why none of the competitors wears
sandals and flowing garb. It just seems the obvious choice,
particularly when you see what sort of suffering culls the field.

Joseph


Running on sandals? You gotta be kidding.

Lou

On Jun 15, 11:47*pm, Lou Holtman wrote:
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On Jun 15, 11:17 pm, wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:58 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:

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On Jun 15, 10:46 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:
Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
best
material and shirts for road racing/touring ?
Thanks
The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
kind, so must be the best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...parel/2008-ass...
You can't road race with it.
-ilan
Why do they not allow people to race in sleeveless jerseys?
This is how people dress in the hottest areas on earth:http://www.dkimages.com/discover/pre...0242.JPGsoless is
not always better.

-ilan

Every once in a while I see on TV that mad multi-day running marathon
in Morocco or wherever, and wonder why none of the competitors wears
sandals and flowing garb. It just seems the obvious choice,
particularly when you see what sort of suffering culls the field.

Joseph

Running on sandals? You gotta be kidding.

Lou

They run in sand across the Sahara, and it's a constant (losing)
battle to keep sand out of their socks and shoes. They use silly
gaiters that don't work, and have huge problems with sores. Sandals at
least drain sand by themselves. With enough practice to get your feet
toughened up and ready for the abrasive sand, I'm sure sandals would
be preferable for at least the sandy sections.

Joseph

On Jun 15, 11:43*pm, "
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On Jun 15, 10:58*pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:

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On Jun 15, 10:46 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:

Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
best
material and shirts for road racing/touring ?

Thanks

The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
kind, so must be the best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...parel/2008-ass...

You can't road race with it.

-ilan

Why do they not allow people to race in sleeveless jerseys?

This is how people dress in the hottest areas on earth:http://www.dkimages.com/discover/pre...0242.JPGsoless is
not always better.

-ilan

Every once in a while I see on TV that mad multi-day running marathon
in Morocco or wherever, and wonder why none of the competitors wears
sandals and flowing garb. It just seems the obvious choice,
particularly when you see what sort of suffering culls the field.

Joseph

A while back, I thought it was a Mexican Indian tribe that was
cleaning up all these events, except that they were under the
exclusive care of some unscrupulous guy.
Apparently, they are the Tarahumara and do race in sandals:
http://barefootted.com/CCMaraton02S.jpg http://barefootted.com/CCMaraton07B..jpg
They apparently never made it to Morocco.

-ilan

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A while back, I thought it was a Mexican Indian tribe that was
cleaning up all these events, except that they were under the
exclusive care of some unscrupulous guy.
Apparently, they are the Tarahumara and do race in sandals:
http://barefootted.com/CCMaraton02S.jpg
http://barefootted.com/CCMaraton07B.jpg
They apparently never made it to Morocco.

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IIRC, the "sandal" soles are made from old car tire treads.

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A while back, I thought it was a Mexican Indian tribe that was
cleaning up all these events, except that they were under the
exclusive care of some unscrupulous guy.
Apparently, they are the Tarahumara and do race in sandals:
http://barefootted.com/CCMaraton02S.jpg
http://barefootted.com/CCMaraton07B.jpg
They apparently never made it to Morocco.

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IIRC, the "sandal" soles are made from old car tire treads.

http://www.laredosnews.com/archives/...columns_03.htm

In February of 1994, I read a most interesting article in the El Diario of
Nuevo Laredo. It seems that in August of 1993, in Leadville, Colorado, the
11th Annual Leadville Trail 100 Ultramarathon, a 100-mile foot-race. took
place. The Leadville Trail 100 is among the most grueling of races due to
the high altitude of the course. The runners must pace themselves to endure
the 10,000-12,600 ft. elevations. As a matter of fact, only 138 out of the
294 runners who started the race actually finished it.

All the fancy running gear companies were well-represented. High-tech shoes
and power-bars were everywhere, as were the skin-tight, low-resistance body
suits, caps, and shades. There were runners from the USA, several Latin
American, African, and European countries, and Japan. Among the group of
racers were Victoriano Churo, Cerrildo Chacarito, and Manuel Luna, all
Tarahumara runners from Panalachi, Chihuahua, Mexico.

Running great distances is second nature to the Tarahumara. In fact, their
name means "the people of swift feet," "feet that fly," or "foot runners."
For the record, they call themselves the Ral'amul'i, or Raràmuri in Spanish.
Running is an integral part of the Tarahumara culture and religious beliefs.
When the men hunt deer, they do so in a most traditional and yet
unconventional manner. They pursue the game on foot, until the deer drops
from sheer exhaustion; they then butcher it and haul the meat back to their
village for their families. They don't even need guns! Running 70 miles a
day or 170 miles without stopping is commonplace for the Tarahumara. A
Tarahumara mail-carrier may have to run 500 miles with a 40 pound load of
mail! The men have a game of kick-ball, which they call rarapìpama, or
carrera de bola, where they kick and chase a small wooden ball over hill and
dale for up to three days straight, and covering 120 miles. This competition
is generally between two or more communities. The Tarahumara women's
equivalent game is called ariweta, and is a little shorter in duration, and
different than the men's kick-ball race, in that they keep a metal hoop
rolling with sticks.
A few days prior to the Ultramarathon, the Tarahumara runners made
themselves pairs of huaraches from some old tires they found at the
Leadville junkyard. Just before the race, they were given some store-bought
name-brand running shoes, for which they were most appreciative. But, 13 and
a half miles into the race, they opted for their hand-made tire-tread
sandals, and changed their foot-gear. They didn't have any power-bars, but
they did carry pinole, a toasted and ground corn gruel, that seemed to work
well for them. All three skinny-legged, huarache-shod Tarahumara men crossed
the finish line in their colorful sashed sarapes and woolen caps. Victoriano
Churo came in first place with a time of 20 hours, two minutes, and 33
seconds. Victoriano, by the way, was 55 years old! Cerrildo Chacarito, 38
years old, came in second place 41 seconds later. Manuel Luna came in fifth.

On Jun 15, 2:46*pm, wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:46*pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:

Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
material and shirts for road racing/touring ?

Thanks

The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
kind, so must be the best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...parel/2008-ass...

You can't road race with it.

-ilan

You can in Colorado:

11.3.1 All riders must wear jerseys. Sleeveless jerseys are permitted.
All riders must wear cycling shorts. No article of clothing may
be worn that serves solely an aerodynamic purpose.

http://americancyc.web152.discountas...-rule-book.pdf

Nashbar sells a very good one that's on sale for $15 now:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...l%20Produ cts

Bret

On Jun 15, 3:01*pm, Fred Fredburger
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On Jun 15, 10:46 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:
Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
material and shirts for road racing/touring ?

Thanks

The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
kind, so must be the best:
http://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...parel/2008-ass...

But it doesn't come in XXL.

The Nashbar one goes to XXXL for $15. That's a lot of material for the
money.

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...l%20Produ cts

Bret

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On Jun 15, 2:46 pm, wrote:
On Jun 15, 10:46 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:

Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the
best
material and shirts for road racing/touring ?

Thanks

The Assos SL Sleeveless Jersey is probably the most expensive of its
kind, so must be the
best:http://www.competitivecyclist.com/ro...parel/2008-ass...

You can't road race with it.

-ilan

You can in Colorado:

11.3.1 All riders must wear jerseys. Sleeveless jerseys are permitted.
All riders must wear cycling shorts. No article of clothing may
be worn that serves solely an aerodynamic purpose.

http://americancyc.web152.discountas...-rule-book.pdf

Nashbar sells a very good one that's on sale for $15 now:

http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?c...l%20Produ cts

Bret

Hi, just to clarify, I did not specify sleeveless jerseys, I just stated the
best one's considering materials, etc, short sleeves are fine too!

On Jun 15, 7:06 pm, "Carl Sundquist" wrote:
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When the men hunt deer, they do so in a most traditional and yet
unconventional manner. They pursue the game on foot, until the deer drops
from sheer exhaustion; they then butcher it and haul the meat back to their
village for their families. They don't even need guns!

There was an article in Sports Illustrated a bunch of years ago about
a runner who ran a deer to ground. The deer would bolt and then stop
when it thought it was out of range, wait until the runner got too
close, then take off again. The runner had an advantage in being able
to read the terrain better and would take a more efficient route which
helped offset the speed imbalance. Eventually endurance won out over
fleetness of foot, and the runner was able to walk up to the exhausted
deer and touch it, symbolizing a kill.

I think that's how the Grand Tours should be run.

The men have a game of kick-ball, which they call rarapìpama, or
carrera de bola, where they kick and chase a small wooden ball over hill and
dale for up to three days straight, and covering 120 miles. This competition
is generally between two or more communities.

North American Native Americans in the Northeast played baggataway,
which evolved (devolved) into lacrosse. The original game would go on
for days, have several hundred players per side, goals that were miles
apart, deaths were not uncommon and the game was a preparation, or
avoidance of, war.

I think that's how the Grand Tours should be run. If the Lanterne
Rouge was killed each day, and nobody could DNS or DNF, I think the
riding speed would pick up quite a bit. See? No need for dope at
all! Think of it as Cy-culling.

R

RicodJour wrote:
On Jun 15, 4:46 pm, "Maple Tree" wrote:
Hi, for hot weather is there a particular company that is producing the best
material and shirts for road racing/touring ?

Hey Sparky, a few observations:
1). You're a ******. Maybe not a particularly insightful
observation, but I thought we should get it out of the way up front.
2). People that wear flip flops while riding to the beach wear
shirts, usually of the T or wife beater variety. Most people wear
jerseys.
3). I have no idea what you mean by best. When you say best do you
mean everyone agrees they're the best, best value, best fit, best
looking or what?
4). Racing isn't touring, but I'm sure you could pick up a nifty USPS
LANCE jersey on eBay and be the absolute coolest guy in the sag wagon
either way!

R


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