Saw first Bicycle with a SON hub today.

On 2015-07-14 9:27 AM, sms wrote:
On 7/14/2015 8:33 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:22:40 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
I was on the train this morning and a guy got on with a Rivendell A.
Homer Hilsen. It had a Schmidt Edelux and a SON hub. I talked to him for
a while. He said that he tries not to think about how much he spent on
the bicycle, the lights, the racks, and the bags. He also had a
Rivendell cap on under his helmet. Beautiful bicycle and not one I'd
want crammed on the racks on Caltrain.

Out of curiosity, how far was that guy commuting?

I don't know, but the bike/train commutes tend to be pretty short on the
bicycle part, just too far to walk on each end with bicycling being
faster than the bus (if there is a bus).

My own is about 2.5 miles on the San Francisco side, and 5 miles on the
Silicon Valley side.

It would also cost me an additional $9.50 per day if I were to use the
bus instead of the bike, besides the extra time it would take, both
riding and waiting.


Nine fifty extra, per day? Yikes!


Today I drove to SF and took the streetcar downtown. There's a place in
SF, right by a streetcar line, with free unrestricted parking that not a
lot of people are aware of. Most parking in SF is either metered or
permit. And the bums just added Saturday to permit parking in some
neighborhoods.


Is it a secret or can you reveal it? So far the cheapest place I found
was the Performing Arts garage on Grover Street. From there I hoof it,
not wanting to tie my trusty old road bike to a lamp post and later find
it flattened, stripped, vandalized or gone.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 7/14/2015 12:20 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2015-07-14 9:27 AM, sms wrote:
On 7/14/2015 8:33 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:22:40 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
I was on the train this morning and a guy got on with a Rivendell A.
Homer Hilsen. It had a Schmidt Edelux and a SON hub. I talked to him
for
a while. He said that he tries not to think about how much he spent on
the bicycle, the lights, the racks, and the bags. He also had a
Rivendell cap on under his helmet. Beautiful bicycle and not one I'd
want crammed on the racks on Caltrain.

Out of curiosity, how far was that guy commuting?

I don't know, but the bike/train commutes tend to be pretty short on the
bicycle part, just too far to walk on each end with bicycling being
faster than the bus (if there is a bus).

My own is about 2.5 miles on the San Francisco side, and 5 miles on the
Silicon Valley side.

It would also cost me an additional $9.50 per day if I were to use the
bus instead of the bike, besides the extra time it would take, both
riding and waiting.


Nine fifty extra, per day? Yikes!

Oh no, my mistake. $8.50

$2 each way on VTA plus $2.25 each way on Muni. $8.50 is more than I
spend on lunch in SF.

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 1:00:55 PM UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 9:27:06 AM UTC-7, sms wrote:
On 7/14/2015 8:33 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:22:40 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
I was on the train this morning and a guy got on with a Rivendell A.
Homer Hilsen. It had a Schmidt Edelux and a SON hub. I talked to him for
a while. He said that he tries not to think about how much he spent on
the bicycle, the lights, the racks, and the bags. He also had a
Rivendell cap on under his helmet. Beautiful bicycle and not one I'd
want crammed on the racks on Caltrain.

Out of curiosity, how far was that guy commuting?

I don't know, but the bike/train commutes tend to be pretty short on the
bicycle part, just too far to walk on each end with bicycling being
faster than the bus (if there is a bus).

My own is about 2.5 miles on the San Francisco side, and 5 miles on the
Silicon Valley side.

It would also cost me an additional $9.50 per day if I were to use the
bus instead of the bike, besides the extra time it would take, both
riding and waiting.

Today I drove to SF and took the streetcar downtown. There's a place in
SF, right by a streetcar line, with free unrestricted parking that not a
lot of people are aware of. Most parking in SF is either metered or
permit. And the bums just added Saturday to permit parking in some
neighborhoods.

I couldn't hack it. I have a five mile, net down hill morning commute that I can do in fifteen minutes. Far faster than driving. My ride home last night was maybe nine miles with a lot of climbing -- and I ran my flasher under the tree cover (and forgot to turn it off when I got home). Parts of the commute. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9woRCb15olM 2:23 is steeper than it looks. Note our lovely pavement. I couldn't imagine sitting on a train, but if I move to the 'burbs, I'd have to do something like that. I'd buy a Homer Hilsen and a cap . . . and a tablet to do work on the train.


-- Jay Beattie.


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Biggs is nice https://goo.gl/C513SG

excellent train service

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 4:46:21 PM UTC-4, sms wrote:
On 7/14/2015 12:20 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2015-07-14 9:27 AM, sms wrote:
On 7/14/2015 8:33 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:22:40 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
I was on the train this morning and a guy got on with a Rivendell A.
Homer Hilsen. It had a Schmidt Edelux and a SON hub. I talked to him
for
a while. He said that he tries not to think about how much he spent on
the bicycle, the lights, the racks, and the bags. He also had a
Rivendell cap on under his helmet. Beautiful bicycle and not one I'd
want crammed on the racks on Caltrain.

Out of curiosity, how far was that guy commuting?

I don't know, but the bike/train commutes tend to be pretty short on the
bicycle part, just too far to walk on each end with bicycling being
faster than the bus (if there is a bus).

My own is about 2.5 miles on the San Francisco side, and 5 miles on the
Silicon Valley side.

It would also cost me an additional $9.50 per day if I were to use the
bus instead of the bike, besides the extra time it would take, both
riding and waiting.


Nine fifty extra, per day? Yikes!

Oh no, my mistake. $8.50

$2 each way on VTA plus $2.25 each way on Muni. $8.50 is more than I
spend on lunch in SF.

nnnnnnnnnnnn

reverse Chinese.....computer $$$ eliminates plain ole touring...everyone in Bunkerville sees touring as computer people throwing money at everyone for weekend sex....forget hiking and cycling/kayaking.

Includes NP's

the bus should charge you triple that.

On 2015-07-14 1:46 PM, sms wrote:
On 7/14/2015 12:20 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2015-07-14 9:27 AM, sms wrote:
On 7/14/2015 8:33 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, July 13, 2015 at 2:22:40 PM UTC-7, sms wrote:
I was on the train this morning and a guy got on with a Rivendell A.
Homer Hilsen. It had a Schmidt Edelux and a SON hub. I talked to him
for
a while. He said that he tries not to think about how much he spent on
the bicycle, the lights, the racks, and the bags. He also had a
Rivendell cap on under his helmet. Beautiful bicycle and not one I'd
want crammed on the racks on Caltrain.

Out of curiosity, how far was that guy commuting?

I don't know, but the bike/train commutes tend to be pretty short on the
bicycle part, just too far to walk on each end with bicycling being
faster than the bus (if there is a bus).

My own is about 2.5 miles on the San Francisco side, and 5 miles on the
Silicon Valley side.

It would also cost me an additional $9.50 per day if I were to use the
bus instead of the bike, besides the extra time it would take, both
riding and waiting.


Nine fifty extra, per day? Yikes!

Oh no, my mistake. $8.50

$2 each way on VTA plus $2.25 each way on Muni. $8.50 is more than I
spend on lunch in SF.


It's insane. No wonder many people aren't using public transportation.
When I go to the Bay Aera I always use my car. There is no other
reliable and economical alternative. Which is one of many reasons why I
am squarely against high-speed rail which I consider a gigantic waste.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

jbeattie wrote:

oes Rivendell have a Sturgis-like event where everyone congregates with their Homer Hilsens, Sam Hilbornes, Hunqapillars, etc.? (starts sounding like an Ikea store). Seems like a great opportunity to show the wool.

:In a wet climate (like SF during fall and winter) with hills and with a load, I'd buy a disc brake bike -- but that's too 21st century for Rivendell. I suppose you could put lugs on the rotor.

I have lugged steel disk brake bike. No Son though, I'm too cheap.
My dyno is a shimano. I don't get the fascination with Rivendell;
just buy an 80s bike, and save a ton. Or buy a modern bike, save a
ton, and get a better bike.

--
sig 114

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 11:08:22 PM UTC-4, David Scheidt wrote:

I have lugged steel disk brake bike. No Son though, I'm too cheap.
My dyno is a shimano.

Ditto on the Shimano, but I've got no disk brakes. I've never needed them.

I don't get the fascination with Rivendell;
just buy an 80s bike, and save a ton. Or buy a modern bike, save a
ton, and get a better bike.

Well, there's no accounting for taste. But once you get over, say, $800,
part of your bike-buying money goes into image, or art, or whatever. IOW,
you're choosing to make a statement about what's important to you.

I don't have a Rivendell, and probably never will. But I like the fact that
Grant Peterson champions utility and versatility in bikes. By contrast, an
awful lot of modern high-quality bikes are too race-oriented for the riding
that people actually do. Yes, I know some modern bikes do have more
upright riding positions, room for fenders, braze-ons for racks, etc.
But they're not all that common outside the "comfort bike" zone.

One could shop for an '80s bike. Heck, my utility bike was made in 1972!
But it can be a job to find what you want; and face it, Rivendell's target
market is old guys who started riding in the '70s bike boom, who have
lots of money, and who are willing to spend it to make a statement. Or
support a business whose philosophy they like.

I think it's true that Rivendell sells lots of middle-grade equipment
at inflated prices. But if you prefer (perhaps) higher-grade equipment
at inflated prices, there's always Compass Bicycles or Velo Orange! ;-)

- Frank Krygowski

On Tuesday, July 14, 2015 at 8:08:22 PM UTC-7, David Scheidt wrote:
jbeattie wrote:

oes Rivendell have a Sturgis-like event where everyone congregates with their Homer Hilsens, Sam Hilbornes, Hunqapillars, etc.? (starts sounding like an Ikea store). Seems like a great opportunity to show the wool.

:In a wet climate (like SF during fall and winter) with hills and with a load, I'd buy a disc brake bike -- but that's too 21st century for Rivendell. I suppose you could put lugs on the rotor.

I have lugged steel disk brake bike. No Son though, I'm too cheap.
My dyno is a shimano. I don't get the fascination with Rivendell;
just buy an 80s bike, and save a ton. Or buy a modern bike, save a
ton, and get a better bike.

I split the dif and got an SP hub for $100. Works fine. I have a ten year old Cannondale CX bike with discs. The whole bike cost about half the cost of Rivendell Homer Simpson. Great bike. I rode that last night and did the same hills on my CAAD 9 tonight (see video above). Dang, the CX bike is heavy and has fat tires, but it is super stiff and climbs like a mountain railroad engine. The CAAD 9 is lighter but considerably more limber -- but still stiffer than any of my steel bikes of yore. The CX bike is kind of fun -- like climbing on a Stairmaster.

-- Jay Beattie.

Am 14.07.2015 um 22:46 schrieb sms:
On 7/14/2015 12:20 PM, Joerg wrote:

Nine fifty extra, per day? Yikes!

Oh no, my mistake. $8.50

$2 each way on VTA plus $2.25 each way on Muni. $8.50 is more than I
spend on lunch in SF.

That's why in Germany we realized 25 years ago that if you wish to
promote publich transport you need through ticketing combining the train
fare with the two bus fares on both ends (especially for season tickets).
Thanks to the public subsidies to public transportation it was
reasonably easy to implement once the politicians realized that this
feature gives a massive net benefit to commuters.

On 2015-07-15 4:03 AM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 14.07.2015 um 22:46 schrieb sms:
On 7/14/2015 12:20 PM, Joerg wrote:

Nine fifty extra, per day? Yikes!

Oh no, my mistake. $8.50

$2 each way on VTA plus $2.25 each way on Muni. $8.50 is more than I
spend on lunch in SF.

That's why in Germany we realized 25 years ago that if you wish to
promote publich transport you need through ticketing combining the train
fare with the two bus fares on both ends (especially for season tickets).
Thanks to the public subsidies to public transportation it was
reasonably easy to implement once the politicians realized that this
feature gives a massive net benefit to commuters.


However, last time I needed to do a longer tour in Germany (2012) I
inquired. The train would have cost me over 200 Euros, plus various
taxis rides of another 100 Euros because no buses ran, and would have
left me stranded at lonely places. So I rented a car and it cost me IIRC
about 150 Euros, including gasoline and all.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/