Ever Ride in City Traffic?

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NYC, that is! On a weekday in mid-town Manhattan?

I've lived in and around NYC all my life. When I was riding into Manhattan
on a regular basis it was always on an upright. I would be willing to do
the occasional ride or even commute but I wouldn't want to spend my days
zipping through midtown traffic on a 'bent. For bent riding I'd limit
myself to the extreme west side, extreme east side, and Central Park.

I am not sure about either the extreme west side or east side either.
Perhaps at some times of the day, but not at other times of the day. Central
Park would work, but how to get you and your bike to the Park would be the
problem.
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There have recently been a lot of Pedicabs in NYC and they are almost all
upright. I think you want the kind of power and control afforded by an
upright when you are trying to get through traffic. Bikes are not well
respected by either pedestrians or drivers in NYC.

The very best way to get around New York City is via the subway and then to
walk. New York is a walker's paradise. I used to walk from one end of
Manhattan to the other end on weekends many times and I never got bored. I
truly do not think there is another city in the US that is as interesting or
as exciting to walk about as is New York.

When I lived in Brooklyn Heights, I use to take the subway for about 10
cents (this was back in the 1960's) and travel to a jumping off point in the
City. From my jumping off point I would walk and walk until total exhaustion
set in. It never even occurred to me at the time to get a bicycle. In fact,
I don't even remember ever seeing any bikes, but maybe that was because I
wasn't looking.

Now that I am coming to the end of my life I am getting back to walking
again. Unfortunately, I now have to do it in my small town here in the Upper
Midwest. It is not New York of course, but still, walking is walking and you
always feel better after having done it.

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking. If I still lived in
New York, I would want to walk and would not even consider a bike.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Edward Dolan wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

:-) Oh, I doubt that! If we were designed for walking, we'd have run
out of ingenuity after we invented shoes!

In any case, I sure feel like _I_ was designed for biking.

And as an aside, I've absolutely proven I was _not_ designed for
running, swimming or (heaven forbid) golf!

- Frank Krygowski

Edward Dolan wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

You related to V@ndem@n?!?

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Edward Dolan wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

:-) Oh, I doubt that! If we were designed for walking, we'd have run
out of ingenuity after we invented shoes!

In any case, I sure feel like _I_ was designed for biking.

And as an aside, I've absolutely proven I was _not_ designed for
running, swimming or (heaven forbid) golf!

- Frank Krygowski

Sorry Frank, but if you belong to the same species as I do then you were
designed for walking too. New York is just chock full of institutions of
higher education. Find one and take a course in anthropology about how we
humans evolved. Such a course is generally labeled Physical Anthropology
101.

Walking is the human means of locomotion par excellence. It is only in the
past few thousand years that humans have been able to invent other ways of
getting around. However, our anatomy and physiology is the same as it has
always been. It was and is designed for walking, not biking.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

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Edward Dolan wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

:-) Oh, I doubt that! If we were designed for walking, we'd have run
out of ingenuity after we invented shoes!

In any case, I sure feel like _I_ was designed for biking.

And as an aside, I've absolutely proven I was _not_ designed for
running, swimming or (heaven forbid) golf!

- Frank Krygowski

Sorry Frank, but if you belong to the same species as I do then you were
designed for walking too. New York is just chock full of institutions of
higher education. Find one and take a course in anthropology about how we
humans evolved. Such a course is generally labeled Physical Anthropology
101.

Walking is the human means of locomotion par excellence. It is only in the
past few thousand years that humans have been able to invent other ways of
getting around. However, our anatomy and physiology is the same as it has
always been. It was and is designed for walking, not biking.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Gee, I see _some_ humans were designed without a sense of humor!

- Frank Krygowski

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Edward Dolan wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

:-) Oh, I doubt that! If we were designed for walking, we'd have run
out of ingenuity after we invented shoes!

In any case, I sure feel like _I_ was designed for biking.

And as an aside, I've absolutely proven I was _not_ designed for
running, swimming or (heaven forbid) golf!

- Frank Krygowski

Sorry Frank, but if you belong to the same species as I do then you were
designed for walking too. New York is just chock full of institutions of
higher education. Find one and take a course in anthropology about how we
humans evolved. Such a course is generally labeled Physical Anthropology
101.

Walking is the human means of locomotion par excellence. It is only in
the
past few thousand years that humans have been able to invent other ways
of
getting around. However, our anatomy and physiology is the same as it has
always been. It was and is designed for walking, not biking.

Ed Dolan - Minnesota

Gee, I see _some_ humans were designed without a sense of humor!

- Frank Krygowski

Actually, my reply was replete with loads of humor. But it takes
intelligence as well as a sense of humor to discover it. I am just not as
obvious as you are. Indirection and subtlety is the essence of humor for
intelligent types like myself.

But mainly, I like to win my arguments regardless of humor. I always see to
that first and foremost.

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

PS. Since I am not getting any input from New Yorkers, I have deleted the
other newsgroups.

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:21:49 -0500, "Edward Dolan"
wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

You are Mike Vandeman and I claim my five pounds.

(ps - actually we were designed for swinging from trees or loping
along the ground using feet and knuckles - check the anatomy of the
spine some time)


Guy
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"Let’s have a moment of silence for all those Americans who are stuck
in traffic on their way to the gym to ride the stationary bicycle."
- Earl Blumenauer

On 07/20/2005 10:52:02 "Just zis Guy, you know?" wrote:

On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:21:49 -0500, "Edward Dolan" wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

You are Mike Vandeman and I claim my five pounds.

(ps - actually we were designed for swinging from trees or loping along
the ground using feet and knuckles - check the anatomy of the spine some
time)

I understand that we were designed for sweating and that is why we are the
dominate species.

--

Buck

I would rather be out on my Catrike

http://www.catrike.co.uk

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On Tue, 19 Jul 2005 03:21:49 -0500, "Edward Dolan"
wrote:

We humans are actually designed for walking, not biking.

You are Mike Vandeman and I claim my five pounds.

(ps - actually we were designed for swinging from trees or loping
along the ground using feet and knuckles - check the anatomy of the
spine some time)

Nope! You have got homo sapiens confused with the great apes. We are
designed by nature for walking upright. However, evolution is not perfect
and we do have an inordinate number of back problems due to our upright
posture.

Who is Mike Vandeman? Is he also Great like me?

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota

Slugger wrote:


There is a documentary called "Pedal" about the messengers in NYC. An
odd group of people to be sure. (crackheads, one legged riders, jesus
preachers) I recommend it to anyone that rides a bike. One fellow in
the movie rides a BikeE for his messenger work.
Some ride track bikes. Which to me seems completely crazy because these
track bikes typically don't have brakes. So if you think riding a bent
in NYC is crazy, there are far crazier bikers on the road than a bent
rider.


Exactly! I love the world of bicycling 'cause it's such a colorful
cast of characters. I couldn't believe it when I saw the one-legged
rider (you mean there are more??)! Women messengers, too...and sexy,
the couple I saw!! Not the skinny-types, but real meat and potatoes
kind of ladies....

Yeah, so I was like, I've only seen one guy ride a 'bent in NYC
traffic, that I can recall...didn't seem to hard, how he was doing it
-- though he was going down the MIDDLE of 125th Street (Harlem)! This
was during afternoon rush hour...maybe he was an out-of-towner...fat
middle-aged white guy with beard....

Thanks for the ref. Real cool people on bikes. I love this crowd!
You know how motorists get into fisticuffs after an accident?
Bicyclists seem to check each other out, make sure the other fellow's
all right!