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Old September 6th 19, 05:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?
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Old September 6th 19, 09:23 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?


Stiffer and more aero.

Lou
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Old September 6th 19, 10:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?


Stiffer and more aero.

Lou


That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.
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Old September 6th 19, 11:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 2:43:00 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?


Stiffer and more aero.

Lou


That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.


Direct mount to the frame -- thus the name "direct mount" brakes. https://tinyurl.com/y3z27ovg Some use a conventional dual pivot design and others use a more complicated linkage to make the brake more aero. Mine are the latter variety and have some nice features for adjustability and other features that make them difficult to work on, like clumsy cable routing.

-- Jay Beattie.
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Old September 6th 19, 11:50 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Sirect Mount Brakes?

On 9/6/2019 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?


Stiffer and more aero.

Lou


That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.


It's a combination of two things.

One is the French randonneur centerpulls with brazed pivots
from The Olden Days:
https://16incheswestofpeoria.files.w...01/dsc0496.jpg

Which was, at the time, an actual innovation.

The other is 'the stuff we sold you last year is no good.
Here's the new one'.

Direct caliper mounting:
https://www.tririg.com/images/store/..._Store_322.jpg

Direct mount caliper:
https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Com...ct_mount_brake



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Old September 7th 19, 12:01 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 9/6/2019 6:42 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 2:43:00 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?

Stiffer and more aero.

Lou


That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.


Direct mount to the frame -- thus the name "direct mount" brakes.


Yep, kinda like cantilever brakes, or V-brakes (which are a kind of
cantilever). Or U-brakes, ditto. But trendier. Ya gotta be trendy!


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- Frank Krygowski
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Old September 7th 19, 12:19 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Sirect Mount Brakes?

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 3:50:25 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/6/2019 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?

Stiffer and more aero.

Lou


That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.


It's a combination of two things.

One is the French randonneur centerpulls with brazed pivots
from The Olden Days:
https://16incheswestofpeoria.files.w...01/dsc0496.jpg

Which was, at the time, an actual innovation.

The other is 'the stuff we sold you last year is no good.
Here's the new one'.

Direct caliper mounting:
https://www.tririg.com/images/store/..._Store_322.jpg

Direct mount caliper:
https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Com...ct_mount_brake


And it seems like discs have eclipsed all rim brakes, direct mount included -- except maybe on TT or tri-bikes.

-- Jay Beattie.
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Old September 7th 19, 12:45 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Sirect Mount Brakes?

On Friday, 6 September 2019 18:42:20 UTC-4, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 2:43:00 PM UTC-7, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?

Stiffer and more aero.

Lou


That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.


Direct mount to the frame -- thus the name "direct mount" brakes. https://tinyurl.com/y3z27ovg Some use a conventional dual pivot design and others use a more complicated linkage to make the brake more aero. Mine are the latter variety and have some nice features for adjustability and other features that make them difficult to work on, like clumsy cable routing.

-- Jay Beattie.


Sounds like Cantilever brakes, V-brakes, Roller Cam brakes, U-brakes, old direct mounted center-pull brakes.

Everything old is new again?

Cheers
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Old September 7th 19, 10:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Tom Kunich[_5_]
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Default Sirect Mount Brakes?

On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 3:50:25 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/6/2019 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?

Stiffer and more aero.

Lou


That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.


It's a combination of two things.

One is the French randonneur centerpulls with brazed pivots
from The Olden Days:
https://16incheswestofpeoria.files.w...01/dsc0496.jpg

Which was, at the time, an actual innovation.

The other is 'the stuff we sold you last year is no good.
Here's the new one'.

Direct caliper mounting:
https://www.tririg.com/images/store/..._Store_322.jpg

Direct mount caliper:
https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Com...ct_mount_brake



--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


I suppose that bracket attaches in the weird manner to the carbon fork so that they don't have to mold in hard mounts. That was what was confusing me and that sort of clears it up. Thanks.
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Old September 8th 19, 12:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Default Sirect Mount Brakes?

On Saturday, September 7, 2019 at 11:43:45 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 3:50:25 PM UTC-7, AMuzi wrote:
On 9/6/2019 4:42 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 1:23:36 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Friday, September 6, 2019 at 6:16:13 PM UTC+2, Tom Kunich wrote:
I am seeing more and more manufacturers coming out with "direct mount brakes". Howe are these any different than any other rim brake?

Stiffer and more aero.

Lou

That's not an answer Lou, that is an attribute.

I can't tell by looking at them if they mount differently or are merely activated differently.


It's a combination of two things.

One is the French randonneur centerpulls with brazed pivots
from The Olden Days:
https://16incheswestofpeoria.files.w...01/dsc0496.jpg

Which was, at the time, an actual innovation.

The other is 'the stuff we sold you last year is no good.
Here's the new one'.

Direct caliper mounting:
https://www.tririg.com/images/store/..._Store_322.jpg

Direct mount caliper:
https://www.campagnolo.com/US/en/Com...ct_mount_brake



--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971


I suppose that bracket attaches in the weird manner to the carbon fork so that they don't have to mold in hard mounts. That was what was confusing me and that sort of clears it up. Thanks.


Huh???? For direct mount brakes you need two mold ins. That bracket is an adapter to attach a normal brake to a fork for direct mount brakes.

Lou
 




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