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Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't
average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! |
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Tom Kunich wrote:
Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! If they don't, you need to ask yourself if you are you willing to start paying list price for your high-end rides. -- Bill Asher |
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Tom Kunich wrote: Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! Do you realize you are talking to yourself? |
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Tom Kunich wrote: Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! I've never said anything about a complete TT bike. I don't own one myself. I also don't claim to be a TT expert. I just said you're a bad koach. You've been arguing against the use of all TT equipment at Cat 4/5. I think everyone who does TTs should at minimum use clip-on aerobars which are quite affordable. The next step would be a rear disk wheel and a deep section front wheel. That's enough to compete without a severe handicap. I wouldn't begrudge anyone that equipment choice. Why do you? Your numbers are also way off. Here in CO, we recently had more than twenty cat 4's (ACA has no cat 5) over 25 mph in the 38K State TT: http://www.americancycling.org/resul...ne/stenner.htm Bret |
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Tom Kunich wrote: Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! Tom - Kindly show where I advised anyone to acquire any piece of equipment for any time trial. Question: Why is your speed criterion dropping from 25 mph to 23 mph? Also, note that my name is spelled Ronaldo. Finally, thank you for acknowledging me as an 'expert.' I may not be expert in as many areas as you (who is?), but it would be fair to say I have some expertise in bicycle racing. -RJ |
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Bret wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote: Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! I've never said anything about a complete TT bike. I don't own one myself. I also don't claim to be a TT expert. I just said you're a bad koach. For suggesting that someone learn to TT before buying specialize equipment? Obviously you're a good koach suggesting that buying special stuff is a better idea than learning what you're supposed to do first. You've been arguing against the use of all TT equipment at Cat 4/5. I think everyone who does TTs should at minimum use clip-on aerobars which are quite affordable. The next step would be a rear disk wheel and a deep section front wheel. That's enough to compete without a severe handicap. I wouldn't begrudge anyone that equipment choice. Why do you? Your numbers are also way off. Here in CO, we recently had more than twenty cat 4's (ACA has no cat 5) over 25 mph in the 38K State TT: http://www.americancycling.org/resul...ne/stenner.htm Is it just me or do you have a problem with English in general? What does some Cat 4's being faster than 25 mph have to do with the majority under that? |
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ronaldo_jeremiah wrote:
Tom Kunich wrote: Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! Tom - Kindly show where I advised anyone to acquire any piece of equipment for any time trial. Question: Why is your speed criterion dropping from 25 mph to 23 mph? Also, note that my name is spelled Ronaldo. Finally, thank you for acknowledging me as an 'expert.' I may not be expert in as many areas as you (who is?), but it would be fair to say I have some expertise in bicycle racing. Why do you feel the need to hite your identity? |
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Why do you feel the need to hite your identity? My identity is well known. I'm not hiting anything. Why do you feel the need ignore direct questions? -RJ |
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"Tom Kunich" wrote in message ups.com... Bret wrote: Tom Kunich wrote: Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! I've never said anything about a complete TT bike. I don't own one myself. I also don't claim to be a TT expert. I just said you're a bad koach. For suggesting that someone learn to TT before buying specialize equipment? Obviously you're a good koach suggesting that buying special stuff is a better idea than learning what you're supposed to do first. Could you please give detailed instruction, point by point, on how to time trial? Could you also make that for with and without the use of a heart rate monitor? Thanks in advance for answering my questions. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Unrestricted-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Tom Kunich wrote: Bret wrote: Tom Kunich wrote: Well, according to the group experts, a beginning racer who can't average 23 mph on a ten kilometer flat course should run out and buy a complete TT bike. Makes sense to me. Henry, "renaldo", Asher, RonSonic, Bret and Charles know where it's at! I've never said anything about a complete TT bike. I don't own one myself. I also don't claim to be a TT expert. I just said you're a bad koach. For suggesting that someone learn to TT before buying specialize equipment? Obviously you're a good koach suggesting that buying special stuff is a better idea than learning what you're supposed to do first. You've been arguing against the use of all TT equipment at Cat 4/5. I think everyone who does TTs should at minimum use clip-on aerobars which are quite affordable. The next step would be a rear disk wheel and a deep section front wheel. That's enough to compete without a severe handicap. I wouldn't begrudge anyone that equipment choice. Why do you? Your numbers are also way off. Here in CO, we recently had more than twenty cat 4's (ACA has no cat 5) over 25 mph in the 38K State TT: http://www.americancycling.org/resul...ne/stenner.htm Is it just me or do you have a problem with English in general? What does some Cat 4's being faster than 25 mph have to do with the majority under that? You didn't limit your arguments to absolute beginners, you included all cat 4/5's. In fact, you even expanded on that with this absurd statement: "In ANY case, a person should be setting records for his area without Aero stuff before he starts using it". I'm not sure what "records for his area" means, but you seem to be saying that anyone below a competitive cat 2 should not use areo equipment. How you are supposed to compete at this level (say 29 mph) with a serious equipment disadvantage is not explained. Bret |
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