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Old July 23rd 07, 11:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Pat McQuaid, the president of the U.C.I., told the Reuters news agency on
Monday that he would rather that Rasmussen not win the Tour de France. “From an
image point of view, it would be better if it was not Rasmussen but one of the
youngest riders winning the Tour,” McQuaid said."

From an image point of view it'd be better if Paddy just shut the **** up.

Either remove these idiots or take the sport away from them. Now.

Ron
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Old July 24th 07, 03:35 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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In article ,
RonSonic wrote:

"Pat McQuaid, the president of the U.C.I., told the Reuters news agency on
Monday that he would rather that Rasmussen not win the Tour de France. “From
an image point of view, it would be better if it was not Rasmussen but one of
the youngest riders winning the Tour,” McQuaid said."

From an image point of view it'd be better if Paddy just shut the **** up.

Either remove these idiots or take the sport away from them. Now.


That's a ridiculous thing for him to say. But on the bright side, if Pound had
said it, the last thing he'd be saying would be, "... and I'll do whatever it takes
to see that he doesn't win."

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tanx,
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Never take a tenant with a monkey.

remove YOUR SHOES to reply, ok?
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Old July 24th 07, 04:05 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 23, 3:00 pm, RonSonic wrote:
"Pat McQuaid, the president of the U.C.I., told the Reuters news agency on
Monday that he would rather that Rasmussen not win the Tour de France. "From an
image point of view, it would be better if it was not Rasmussen but one of the
youngest riders winning the Tour," McQuaid said."

From an image point of view it'd be better if Paddy just shut the **** up.

Either remove these idiots or take the sport away from them. Now.


Forget the dope thing. Pat's clearly noticed that Mikey
Rasmussen is ... ****ing ugly!! From an image point of
view, it would be better if it was one of the younger
riders winning the Tour. Especially a cute one. Hell,
if it was Tyler Farrar, maybe heather would even post to
rbr.


BTW, I am reconciled somewhat to the doping stories, but
I agree with Steven Sheffield, the story about handing
some random friend/sucker a box of "shoes" filled with
Hemopure to take through customs bothers me. Assuming
the story's for real, but it seems unlikely to be made up.

Ben
I have a closet full of "cycling shoes"

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Old July 24th 07, 05:13 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On 07/23/2007 09:05 PM, in article
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" wrote:


BTW, I am reconciled somewhat to the doping stories, but
I agree with Steven Sheffield, the story about handing
some random friend/sucker a box of "shoes" filled with
Hemopure to take through customs bothers me. Assuming
the story's for real, but it seems unlikely to be made up.




Interesting thing ... I just finished reading David Walsh's newest book,
"From Lance to Landis: Inside the American Doping Controversy at the Tour de
France". (
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...962X/veluninc/)

In the Author's Note (after the Epilogue):

"Four years ago, I traveled to Milan to meet a young American who had
recently moved from Colorado to Italy. He told a story about a friend of
his, a European-born professional cyclist, who had asked this young man to
bring to Italy a pair of favorite cycling shoes he had unintentionally left
in the United States. The shoes were dropped off at the young man's house
in Boulder--a friend of the owner of the shoes just left the package at this
young man's door. As it turned out, the traveler didn't have much spare
room, but he figured he could squeeze in the shoes if he took them out of
the package and packed the two shoes separately.

Inside the package were 8 cartons of bovine hemoglobin."

From http://velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12851.0.html

"A former amateur mountain-bike racer alleged Thursday that Tour de France
yellow-jersey holder Michael Rasmussen (Rabobank) attempted to trick him
into carrying illegal doping products to Europe in 2002.

Whitney Richards, 31, a one-time Colorado-based cross-country racer, told
VeloNews that in March of 2002, Rasmussen asked him to transport a box
containing cycling shoes. But the shoebox, according to Richards, actually
contained bags of an American-made human blood substitute. None of the
information Richards provided VeloNews involves allegations of current
doping."

So ... knowing that there would have to be some lead time for Walsh's book;
AND that there's no way they could have known that Rasmussen would be
leading the Tour at this point, I'm thinking that the story is true ... At
the very least, Whitney Richard has been telling it long enough to give it
some sense of credibility, since he told it to Walsh in 2002/2003.



Ben
I have a closet full of "cycling shoes"


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Old July 24th 07, 05:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 23, 9:13 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:

Fromhttp://velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12851.0.html

"A former amateur mountain-bike racer alleged Thursday that Tour de France
yellow-jersey holder Michael Rasmussen (Rabobank) attempted to trick him
into carrying illegal doping products to Europe in 2002.

Whitney Richards, 31, a one-time Colorado-based cross-country racer, told
VeloNews that in March of 2002, Rasmussen asked him to transport a box
containing cycling shoes. But the shoebox, according to Richards, actually
contained bags of an American-made human blood substitute. None of the
information Richards provided VeloNews involves allegations of current
doping."

So ... knowing that there would have to be some lead time for Walsh's book;
AND that there's no way they could have known that Rasmussen would be
leading the Tour at this point, I'm thinking that the story is true ... At
the very least, Whitney Richard has been telling it long enough to give it
some sense of credibility, since he told it to Walsh in 2002/2003.


The Velonews article says that he told it to Velonews "that same year"
(2002). They didn't print it because Richards didn't want to be
identified,
but I think we can rely on Velonews's word that he's been telling it
for
some time. Of course it would have been somewhat newsworthy then
since Rasmussen was already MTB world champ, but obviously
Richards wasn't telling it to get attention. At worst one would have
to
assume that he was trying to get back at Rasmussen for some
reason, and that seems unlikely given his insistence then on not
naming
Rasmussen, and his friend who corroborates the story.

Other people have couriered this or that pill (didn't Emma
whatshername
allegedly bring LANCE something?) but putting someone in the
position of carrying blood substitute bags on an international flight
would
be a new level of brazenness, into Willy Voet or Edita Rumsas
territory.

Ben
These shoes transmit power to the pedals more effectively

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Old July 24th 07, 05:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Steven L. Sheffield" wrote...

Interesting thing ... I just finished reading David Walsh's newest book,
"From Lance to Landis: Inside the American Doping Controversy at the Tour
de
France". (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...962X/veluninc/)


Talk about a mountain of circumstantial evidence.


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Old July 24th 07, 07:07 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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In article
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wrote:

On Jul 23, 3:00 pm, RonSonic wrote:
"Pat McQuaid, the president of the U.C.I., told the Reuters news agency on
Monday that he would rather that Rasmussen not win the Tour de France. "From an
image point of view, it would be better if it was not Rasmussen but one of the
youngest riders winning the Tour," McQuaid said."

From an image point of view it'd be better if Paddy just shut the **** up.

Either remove these idiots or take the sport away from them. Now.


Forget the dope thing. Pat's clearly noticed that Mikey
Rasmussen is ... ****ing ugly!! From an image point of
view, it would be better if it was one of the younger
riders winning the Tour. Especially a cute one. Hell,
if it was Tyler Farrar, maybe heather would even post to
rbr.


BTW, I am reconciled somewhat to the doping stories, but
I agree with Steven Sheffield, the story about handing
some random friend/sucker a box of "shoes" filled with
Hemopure to take through customs bothers me. Assuming
the story's for real, but it seems unlikely to be made up.

Ben
I have a closet full of "cycling shoes"


I keep mine in a suitcase.

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Old July 24th 07, 09:08 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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wrote:
These shoes transmit power to the pedals more effectively


Must be the shoes Moreau was going back to change into when Astana
attacked.

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Old July 24th 07, 12:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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I have a 544 Volvo.
Volvo won stock touring at Lemans 1-2, only problem was one car
cracked an exhaust header.
Volvo did not win stock touring at Lemans: Peugot won.
The Peugot's aluminum body wasn't stock but what the hey right?

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Old July 24th 07, 03:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Jul 23, 9:13 pm, "Steven L. Sheffield"
wrote:
On 07/23/2007 09:05 PM, in article
. com,

" wrote:
BTW, I am reconciled somewhat to the doping stories, but
I agree with Steven Sheffield, the story about handing
some random friend/sucker a box of "shoes" filled with
Hemopure to take through customs bothers me. Assuming
the story's for real, but it seems unlikely to be made up.


Interesting thing ... I just finished reading David Walsh's newest book,
"From Lance to Landis: Inside the American Doping Controversy at the Tour de
France". (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/AS...962X/veluninc/)

In the Author's Note (after the Epilogue):

"Four years ago, I traveled to Milan to meet a young American who had
recently moved from Colorado to Italy. He told a story about a friend of
his, a European-born professional cyclist, who had asked this young man to
bring to Italy a pair of favorite cycling shoes he had unintentionally left
in the United States. The shoes were dropped off at the young man's house
in Boulder--a friend of the owner of the shoes just left the package at this
young man's door. As it turned out, the traveler didn't have much spare
room, but he figured he could squeeze in the shoes if he took them out of
the package and packed the two shoes separately.

Inside the package were 8 cartons of bovine hemoglobin."

Fromhttp://velonews.com/tour2007/news/articles/12851.0.html

"A former amateur mountain-bike racer alleged Thursday that Tour de France
yellow-jersey holder Michael Rasmussen (Rabobank) attempted to trick him
into carrying illegal doping products to Europe in 2002.

Whitney Richards, 31, a one-time Colorado-based cross-country racer, told
VeloNews that in March of 2002, Rasmussen asked him to transport a box
containing cycling shoes. But the shoebox, according to Richards, actually
contained bags of an American-made human blood substitute. None of the
information Richards provided VeloNews involves allegations of current
doping."

So ... knowing that there would have to be some lead time for Walsh's book;
AND that there's no way they could have known that Rasmussen would be
leading the Tour at this point, I'm thinking that the story is true ... At
the very least, Whitney Richard has been telling it long enough to give it
some sense of credibility, since he told it to Walsh in 2002/2003.


You are aware that Hemoglobin Based Oxygen Carriers (HBOCs) are
detectable in quantities far below those with therapeutic values?

 




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