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On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 8:42:18 AM UTC-7, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 07.03.2019 um 23:38 schrieb : I don't think that there is a road in the world that isn't marked at the intersections. Tom, you must not get out much. I didn't have any trouble in Europe. I didn't have any trouble in almost all of the western USA. It all depends on what types of roads you pick. Road signs are usually good enough if you only wish to reach a certain place (if you are able to guess from the map whether the destination on the sign is going to be the next village one mile up or a large town 30 miles up) but often not good enough if you wish to take a certain route (avoid/pick the mountain road rather than the flat road). In Utah there are MANY ghost towns. I've seen some that appeared to be from the 1800's mining towns almost entirely gone. So it is easy to miss a town that is shown on a map. |
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Am 08.03.2019 um 19:03 schrieb Frank Krygowski:
For my limited bicycle riding, I don't really need a map. I don't understand these problems. Our county engineer gives away free maps. A simple example for trips where GPS comes useful is one I took with my son a while ago. Plan was: take the train to a small town in the next state (Hessen), follow a river trail for some 20 miles (or maybe more) and see how to come home from there by train. When we reached our minimal distance at lunchtime, my son agreed to go on, but following some trail signs through the forest rather than along the river, reaching the third state (Bavaria, for which I had no offline map) mid-afternoon. From there, follow another river trail downhill "for a bit", and upon seeing a sign to Frankfurt "Oh, let's got There", turning a 20 miles planned trip spontaneously into a 65 mile trip in unknown territory... |
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On Mon, 11 Mar 2019 17:24:28 +0100, Rolf Mantel
wrote: When we reached our minimal distance at lunchtime, my son agreed to go on, but following some trail signs through the forest rather than along the river, reaching the third state (Bavaria, for which I had no offline map) mid-afternoon. From there, follow another river trail downhill "for a bit", and upon seeing a sign to Frankfurt "Oh, let's got There", turning a 20 miles planned trip spontaneously into a 65 mile trip in unknown territory... I used to carry a regional map for those situations. Gave it up when going thirty miles in one day became a major achievement -- not to mention that I was unable to replace my map collection after we retired and moved to my spouse's home town. -- Joy Beeson joy beeson at comcast dot net http://wlweather.net/PAGEJOY/ |
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On Monday, March 11, 2019 at 9:24:30 AM UTC-7, Rolf Mantel wrote:
Am 08.03.2019 um 19:03 schrieb Frank Krygowski: For my limited bicycle riding, I don't really need a map. I don't understand these problems. Our county engineer gives away free maps. A simple example for trips where GPS comes useful is one I took with my son a while ago. Plan was: take the train to a small town in the next state (Hessen), follow a river trail for some 20 miles (or maybe more) and see how to come home from there by train. When we reached our minimal distance at lunchtime, my son agreed to go on, but following some trail signs through the forest rather than along the river, reaching the third state (Bavaria, for which I had no offline map) mid-afternoon. From there, follow another river trail downhill "for a bit", and upon seeing a sign to Frankfurt "Oh, let's got There", turning a 20 miles planned trip spontaneously into a 65 mile trip in unknown territory... But as a country with good train service to most important destinations you always have the alternative of asking directions at any train station or taking a train back. |
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On 3/12/2019 12:11 PM, Rolf Mantel wrote:
In Minnesota 1996, I had a similar but not quite so luxurious safety net: the road numbering system streching out into all directions more than a day trip: If I got lost I just had to follow any road to the next junction containing a road name (e.g. 135 Ave NW), I "only" had to follow some 15 miles into the direction of smaller road numbers, turn right as soon as it changed its name to 'NE' and find my way back home to the city center without a map, maps only being necessary to find a pretty route. Minnesota is one of the states with extremely large areas where the roads form a grid made of straight lines. That does make navigation easy. Those areas also tend to be fairly flat. In hillier areas, roads often wiggle and branch off unpredictably to follow valleys. It makes for much more interesting riding, but trickier navigation. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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