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"Too bad our economy rolls on four wheels. Many of us are enslaved to
our automobiles. There is help, you can Divorce Your Car, if you are so bold. Heck, you could save $30,000 over the next five years ($6000 per year)." Yep, just like you deserve to be free from a bad marriage (tell me about it), you deserve to be free from the enslavement of the automibile. Well, then you can get into a hot romance with a red (or whatever color you like) bike or recumbent. They are simply cool as well as more troublefree and cheaper. And they'll give you a nice attention-getter physique wich is bound to end in a torrid affair (unlike an SUV with tinted windows meant to hide a short fat man). Anyway, whatever your reasons, don't tell you wife... ![]() Cars: True Cost of Ownership Gasoline is $3.11 per gallon in Port Townsend this week (unleaded plus). Some feel this is expensive, but gas prices in the USA are cheap compared to the rest of the world where upwards of $6 per gallon is more the norm. If your car gets 20 mpg, you currently have to pay $2300+ for a years (15K miles) worth of gas (per car) - such a deal. http://ptslacker.blogspot.com/2006/0...ownership.html WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1 BIKE FOR PEACE http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace |
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![]() "donquijote1954" wrote in message oups.com... "Too bad our economy rolls on four wheels. Many of us are enslaved to our automobiles. Many of us are enslaved to our wives too, but that does not mean we want a divorce. Both are necessary for a normal life. |
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george conklin wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message oups.com... "Too bad our economy rolls on four wheels. Many of us are enslaved to our automobiles. Many of us are enslaved to our wives too, but that does not mean we want a divorce. Both are necessary for a normal life. Wow. So much wrong in so few words. Brava! |
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On 17 Jul 2006 07:35:27 -0700, "donquijote1954"
SNIP First Windmills, now cars. Guess they offer more sport. ![]() later, tom |
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![]() donquijote1954 wrote: "Too bad our economy rolls on four wheels. Many of us are enslaved to our automobiles. There is help, you can Divorce Your Car, if you are so bold. Heck, you could save $30,000 over the next five years ($6000 per year)." Yep, just like you deserve to be free from a bad marriage (tell me about it), you deserve to be free from the enslavement of the automibile. Well, then you can get into a hot romance with a red (or whatever color you like) bike or recumbent. They are simply cool as well as more troublefree and cheaper. And they'll give you a nice attention-getter physique wich is bound to end in a torrid affair (unlike an SUV with tinted windows meant to hide a short fat man). Anyway, whatever your reasons, don't tell you wife... ![]() Cars: True Cost of Ownership Gasoline is $3.11 per gallon in Port Townsend this week (unleaded plus). Some feel this is expensive, but gas prices in the USA are cheap compared to the rest of the world where upwards of $6 per gallon is more the norm. If your car gets 20 mpg, you currently have to pay $2300+ for a years (15K miles) worth of gas (per car) - such a deal. http://ptslacker.blogspot.com/2006/0...ownership.html WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1 BIKE FOR PEACE http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace I think you are somewhat city-o-centric. Maybe you can "live" without a car and have fun on a bike, but not everyone can. I can't. My city is under 5,000 people with most of it on an Indian Reservation. We're 20 miles from almost anything. You may have fun on your bike, but in my community there's no place that sells bikes, or tires, or tubes or anything you would need. We could come up with the compressed air, but that's about it. I work out of my house. When I travel, sometimes the meetings are 350 miles away. Sort of tough on a bike -- esp. if you want to make it a day trip. Oh, did I mention a nearly complete lack of public transportation. Could take Trailways north and then go to the meeting. I should get there sometime, I guess. I am not arguing that most people don't need SUVs or such, but out here, you pretty much need a car. Glad to see a post in this group. It's been dead lately. But please don't try to impose your view on others and tell us what we need when you have no idea. You and I live in a different world. One last example for you to think about. What if you went hunting and got a deer. How would you bring it back to your house on a bike? 10 miles on dirt roads pulling a deer on your recumbant? It's be fun to see. Oh, did I mention snow storms. I can't imaging a bike on 6" of unplowed snow on a packed snow base when it's -20F and windy. Those car heaters sure come in handy then. |
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An interesting but very incomplete analysis of the true costs of
commuting by bike. Take the average commuter that lives 20 miles from work. To make an 8-4 work schedule that commuter will have to get up at 4:00 to begin riding at 5:00 to arrive at work by 8:00. The commuter then does the same in reverse and arrives home at 7:00 The times assume he is able to find a lot of flat and downhill both ways with few traffic and stoplights. Incremental cost: New bike every year plus repairs $2,000; Medical expenses from road injuries $2,000 When it snows, or rains the commuter is either off work and not paid because he cant make it in, or he is forced to get a hotel room close to work because he can't ride home in inclement weather. Incremental cost: Lost wages $5,000; Hotel rooms $1,000 Tiring of those exceedingly long riding days and days missed with no pay the commuter decides to shorten his commute by moving closer. After some research he determines that to reduce his commuting distance by half he will have to pay twice as much for the same house because he is much closer to the big city now. Incremental Cost: $200,000 The commuter works in sales and he is asked to make a presentation to two potential clients, one located 90 miles south on the coast and the other 45 miles west in the mountains. The commuter presents his boss with the proposed 6 day ride to cover both potential customers and is promptly fired. Incremental cost: Annual salary $100,000 Before the commuter has a chance to shorten his ride, his wife sues for divorce because he is gone so long from home that she became lonely and had an affair with the cable tv repairman. Incremental cost: Alimony and child support for the next 20 years. donquijote1954 wrote: "Too bad our economy rolls on four wheels. Many of us are enslaved to our automobiles. There is help, you can Divorce Your Car, if you are so bold. Heck, you could save $30,000 over the next five years ($6000 per year)." Yep, just like you deserve to be free from a bad marriage (tell me about it), you deserve to be free from the enslavement of the automibile. Well, then you can get into a hot romance with a red (or whatever color you like) bike or recumbent. They are simply cool as well as more troublefree and cheaper. And they'll give you a nice attention-getter physique wich is bound to end in a torrid affair (unlike an SUV with tinted windows meant to hide a short fat man). Anyway, whatever your reasons, don't tell you wife... ![]() Cars: True Cost of Ownership Gasoline is $3.11 per gallon in Port Townsend this week (unleaded plus). Some feel this is expensive, but gas prices in the USA are cheap compared to the rest of the world where upwards of $6 per gallon is more the norm. If your car gets 20 mpg, you currently have to pay $2300+ for a years (15K miles) worth of gas (per car) - such a deal. http://ptslacker.blogspot.com/2006/0...ownership.html WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1 BIKE FOR PEACE http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace |
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![]() John S. wrote: An interesting but very incomplete analysis of the true costs of commuting by bike. Take the average commuter that lives 20 miles from work. To make an 8-4 work schedule that commuter will have to get up at 4:00 to begin riding at 5:00 to arrive at work by 8:00. The commuter then does the same in reverse and arrives home at 7:00 The times assume he is able to find a lot of flat and downhill both ways with few traffic and stoplights. Incremental cost: New bike every year plus repairs $2,000; Medical expenses from road injuries $2,000 When it snows, or rains the commuter is either off work and not paid because he cant make it in, or he is forced to get a hotel room close to work because he can't ride home in inclement weather. Incremental cost: Lost wages $5,000; Hotel rooms $1,000 Tiring of those exceedingly long riding days and days missed with no pay the commuter decides to shorten his commute by moving closer. After some research he determines that to reduce his commuting distance by half he will have to pay twice as much for the same house because he is much closer to the big city now. Incremental Cost: $200,000 The commuter works in sales and he is asked to make a presentation to two potential clients, one located 90 miles south on the coast and the other 45 miles west in the mountains. The commuter presents his boss with the proposed 6 day ride to cover both potential customers and is promptly fired. Incremental cost: Annual salary $100,000 Before the commuter has a chance to shorten his ride, his wife sues for divorce because he is gone so long from home that she became lonely and had an affair with the cable tv repairman. MY wife would probably like it if I was gone more .... Incremental cost: Alimony and child support for the next 20 years. Yeah, but if she's sleeping around with the cable guy, the the divorce probably goes in the "plus" column, not the minus. And interesting and incomplete analysis. You forgot something. How do you (or your teenager) make out on the back seat of a bike. donquijote1954 wrote: "Too bad our economy rolls on four wheels. Many of us are enslaved to our automobiles. There is help, you can Divorce Your Car, if you are so bold. Heck, you could save $30,000 over the next five years ($6000 per year)." Yep, just like you deserve to be free from a bad marriage (tell me about it), you deserve to be free from the enslavement of the automibile. Well, then you can get into a hot romance with a red (or whatever color you like) bike or recumbent. They are simply cool as well as more troublefree and cheaper. And they'll give you a nice attention-getter physique wich is bound to end in a torrid affair (unlike an SUV with tinted windows meant to hide a short fat man). Anyway, whatever your reasons, don't tell you wife... ![]() Cars: True Cost of Ownership Gasoline is $3.11 per gallon in Port Townsend this week (unleaded plus). Some feel this is expensive, but gas prices in the USA are cheap compared to the rest of the world where upwards of $6 per gallon is more the norm. If your car gets 20 mpg, you currently have to pay $2300+ for a years (15K miles) worth of gas (per car) - such a deal. http://ptslacker.blogspot.com/2006/0...ownership.html WELCOME TO THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote COMING OUT OF THE JUNGLE http://webspawner.com/users/donquijote1 BIKE FOR PEACE http://webspawner.com/users/bikeforpeace |
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![]() John S. wrote: An interesting but very incomplete analysis of the true costs of commuting by bike. Take the average commuter that lives 20 miles from work. To make an 8-4 work schedule that commuter will have to get up at 4:00 to begin riding at 5:00 to arrive at work by 8:00. The commuter then does the same in reverse and arrives home at 7:00 The times assume he is able to find a lot of flat and downhill both ways with few traffic and stoplights. 3 hours to go 20 miles?? I could go faster than that riding a single speed steel city-bike with balloon tires when I lived on the North China Plain. That was coming at a time when I still walked with a cane. I have managed a 20 mile hour but there wasn't much uphill and I did have a paceline helping me for the first 8 miles. Incremental cost: New bike every year plus repairs $2,000; Medical expenses from road injuries $2,000 Why would you need to get a new bike every year? A perfectly acceptable race bike (not commuter bike) doesn't run $2000 a year in repairs and replacements. And if you are riding to work that much why would you possibly be falling off enough to hurt yourself that much? $50 in repairs and medical bills is usually considered to be a major bicycle accident and most bicyclists don't have major accidents very often (barring mountain bikers who go out of their way to have major accidents and who are generally very proud of how they managed to do it). When it snows, or rains the commuter is either off work and not paid because he cant make it in, or he is forced to get a hotel room close to work because he can't ride home in inclement weather. Incremental cost: Lost wages $5,000; Hotel rooms $1,000 I guess you haven't heard of a poncho, a jacket, boots, or other articles of winter clothing. I guess you also haven't heard of carpooling, mass transit, or using the car that most of us still have but aren't using for ordinary short trips. Tiring of those exceedingly long riding days and days missed with no snip I guess I should have read the rest of this before starting to respond. You really have no idea of the reality of bike riding do you? -M |
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