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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
On Wed, 31 Dec 2003 23:35:33 +0000, Zamfoo the Magnificent wrote:
I was talking to Bill Cook (of Barcroft fame) this morning. He told me that Vredestein has given up on the recumbent tire market (at least in the US). Anyone else heard this? S-licks are still on the Vredestein website in both 559 and 406 varieties, and are still being adverstised by dealers in the uk, so perhaps it's just in the USA? ref: http://www.vredestein.com/fietsbanden/ (under products/ligfietsen) http://www.settlecycles.co.uk/shop/ If you're prepared to pay the markup that we in 'ripoff Britain' usually have to pay, then you could order them from over here! L -- http://www.redshift.uklinux.net/ Windcheetah No.176 Linux Counter No. 275325 *Remove Spamcatcher and x for email reply |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
In article VCJIb.24531$xX.91578@attbi_s02,
"Mark Leuck" wrote: I wasn't aware there was a recumbent tire market, I thought it was all just bicycle tires Well, you should start paying attention then. |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
In article VCJIb.24531$xX.91578@attbi_s02,
"Mark Leuck" wrote: I wasn't aware there was a recumbent tire market, I thought it was all just bicycle tires Well, you should start paying attention then. |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
I have both the 406mm and 559mm Vredestein S-Licks in stock. About a
month ago I tried to order some 406mm S-Licks from the US Vredestein distributor and was told they didn't have any more in that size and weren't sure if they'd be getting more. So I ordered some from one of the European recumbent manufacturers I deal with who has 406mm S-Licks listed in their 2004 parts catalogue. Zach Kaplan (Christopher Jordan) wrote in message om... Another Happy New Year or what???!!! After all the "hoops" I went through, that is very sad news if it is true. I looked everywhere for Vredestein tyres and found them at last, at Zach Kaplans. If anyone might know about truth to this rumor; he might! Anyone interested in buying an Optima Rider with 3 two month old Vredestein tyres on it? Chris Jordan Santa Cruz, CA. Zamfoo the Magnificent wrote in message ... I was talking to Bill Cook (of Barcroft fame) this morning. He told me that Vredestein has given up on the recumbent tire market (at least in the US). Anyone else heard this? |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
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says... I have both the 406mm and 559mm Vredestein S-Licks in stock. About a month ago I tried to order some 406mm S-Licks from the US Vredestein distributor and was told they didn't have any more in that size and weren't sure if they'd be getting more. So I ordered some from one of the European recumbent manufacturers I deal with who has 406mm S-Licks listed in their 2004 parts catalogue. Zach Kaplan Will these be available with the customary 'Zach Kaplan' surcharge? -- Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager http://www.clee.org - Bellaire, TX USA - |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
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says... I have both the 406mm and 559mm Vredestein S-Licks in stock. About a month ago I tried to order some 406mm S-Licks from the US Vredestein distributor and was told they didn't have any more in that size and weren't sure if they'd be getting more. So I ordered some from one of the European recumbent manufacturers I deal with who has 406mm S-Licks listed in their 2004 parts catalogue. Zach Kaplan Will these be available with the customary 'Zach Kaplan' surcharge? -- Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager http://www.clee.org - Bellaire, TX USA - |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
Cletus D. Lee wrote in message ET...
In article , says... I have both the 406mm and 559mm Vredestein S-Licks in stock. About a month ago I tried to order some 406mm S-Licks from the US Vredestein distributor and was told they didn't have any more in that size and weren't sure if they'd be getting more. So I ordered some from one of the European recumbent manufacturers I deal with who has 406mm S-Licks listed in their 2004 parts catalogue. Zach Kaplan Will these be available with the customary 'Zach Kaplan' surcharge? What in the hell are you talking about Cletus? I charge fair prices for everything I sell and in fact have a price matching policy where I will match any advertised price on any parts currently in production if you can find it for lower than my quoted price. Zach Kaplan |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
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says... Cletus D. Lee wrote in message ET... In article , says... I have both the 406mm and 559mm Vredestein S-Licks in stock. About a month ago I tried to order some 406mm S-Licks from the US Vredestein distributor and was told they didn't have any more in that size and weren't sure if they'd be getting more. So I ordered some from one of the European recumbent manufacturers I deal with who has 406mm S-Licks listed in their 2004 parts catalogue. Zach Kaplan Will these be available with the customary 'Zach Kaplan' surcharge? What in the hell are you talking about Cletus? I charge fair prices for everything I sell and in fact have a price matching policy where I will match any advertised price on any parts currently in production if you can find it for lower than my quoted price. Zach Kaplan I recall a that when certain Asian tire mfg stopped making their tire and took production elsewhere, that you jacked up the price of your remaining stock. Have you forgotten? -- Cletus D. Lee Bacchetta Giro Lightning Voyager http://www.clee.org - Bellaire, TX USA - |
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No more Vredestein recumbent tires?
Cletus D. Lee wrote in message ET...
In article , says... Cletus D. Lee wrote in message ET... In article , says... I have both the 406mm and 559mm Vredestein S-Licks in stock. About a month ago I tried to order some 406mm S-Licks from the US Vredestein distributor and was told they didn't have any more in that size and weren't sure if they'd be getting more. So I ordered some from one of the European recumbent manufacturers I deal with who has 406mm S-Licks listed in their 2004 parts catalogue. Zach Kaplan Will these be available with the customary 'Zach Kaplan' surcharge? What in the hell are you talking about Cletus? I charge fair prices for everything I sell and in fact have a price matching policy where I will match any advertised price on any parts currently in production if you can find it for lower than my quoted price. Zach Kaplan I recall a that when certain Asian tire mfg stopped making their tire and took production elsewhere, that you jacked up the price of your remaining stock. Have you forgotten? Man you sure hold grudges. That was nearly 4 years ago when Tioga switched production of the Comp Pool from Japan to the Phillipines. Based on past experience with other tyre production moving from Japan to lower wage countries I wisely decided to raise the price of my remaining very limited inventory of 8 Japanese Tioga Comp Pool tyres from the $30 I had been selling them at to $40 until they were either sold, I used them up on my own recumbents or the Comp Pools from the Phillipines were proven to be just as good. At the time Tioga Comp Pool tyres were my favourite 406mm tyres and I would have been happy if no one bought my remaining Japanese Comp Pools so I could use them on my own recumbents, however if someone wanted them they were welcome to pay the higher price knowing in all probability the next Comp Pools would not be as good. Turns out my prediction was correct. The Japanese Comp Pool was a very reliable and low rolling resistance tyre, an unusual combination. The new Comp Pools from the Phillipines have a very high rate of premature failure. They are prone to having casing seperation resulting in anything from a bulge to the tyre catastrophically blowing apart. I've heard of quite a few failing in this way including seeing it happen first hand at a recumbent race and have also had a number of failed Comp Pools from the Phillipines returned. In fact the failure rate has been so high that I am no longer keeping the Comp Pool in stock and am only special ordering it for people who really want it and have been made aware of the high failure rate. Also Greenspeed tested the new Comp Pools and found them to have higher rolling resistance than the original Japanese Comp Pools. Also the samples of the Comp Pools from the Phillipines I have weighed are heavier than the Comp Pools from Japan were. At autocross slalom race at the Portland HPV Challenge last year Mark Mueller remarked to me that he finds the new Comp Pools don't have as good traction as the ones from Japan. Anyways raising the prices on the Comp Pools was a one time special thing while the remaining inventory lasted. I was simultaneously selling the Comp Pools from the Phillipines for $20, passing on the lower cost I was able to get them at. I pride myself on being totally fair and honest and providing excellent service with competitive pricing. As I mentioned above if you can find something currently in production advertised for a lower price than I quote I will match that price. I have been selling recumbents and parts for them since 1995 and do this as a labour of love. Relatively speaking I am not making much money doing this and personally I find it highly offensive when you accuse me of gouging. If you want to discuss this further or order some Vredestein S-Licks please take this to private e-mail (zakaplan at earthlink dot net) or phone me at 510-522-2368. I don't believe the general readership of A.R.B.R. wants to continue to see your continued unfounded personal attacks on me. Zach Kaplan |
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