Election Math, Donkey Party Method

On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who
count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is working overtime
to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
*From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife Nadia's
grave. She committed suicide because she could no longer bear
living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are especially
civic-minded, well known for their exception voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but in a
semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a long, long history
of near-indifference from actual voters? As the Other Joe will say,
"Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM


(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855



The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and other crooked
county clerks, revamped the system and got the Florida vote counted and
certified Tuesday evening on time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or
Florida 2016 or WI, MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state by state?


--
- Frank Krygowski

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 6:47:09 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:07 PM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 5:06:32 PM UTC, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing. The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are especially civic-minded, well known for their exception voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a long, long history of near-indifference from actual voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM

(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

Thanks, Andrew. Having been straightened out by one Craig Gilbert, I was just about to post on the novel Wisconsin election-day invitation to election fraud, uh, sorry, election day registration to vote. Apparently up to half a million people have historically availed themselves of the option, more than enough in which to lose a even a few thousand fanatical Donkey Party vote-abusers. -- AJ

I'm a supporter and contributor to John James' campaign.
Here's the latest local news report after he won Tuesday
then lost Wednesday:

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/joh...-in-vote-count

You know of course that this sort of crap is unknown in Ireland or England or Australia or Canada. It is incredible that election officials can be so openly partisan without being punished for it; excluding the other party would land someone in jail in Ireland. It is also worth pointing out that everyone who wants to vote here is identified on the voter roll, which is open for public inspection before and after the election, and that the citizen's name is ruled off on the copy of the voter roll kept in the sole venue where he or she or it can cast a vote. Unless both the officers of the electoral commission behind the table, one for each party, recognise the face of the would-be voter, he can be asked to show two pieces of identification, one photo, and one to confirm his address. Voter fraud is almost unknown, and counting fraud very rare indeed, and usually soon discovered to be a ****up rather than a conspiracy.

AJ


Note this paragraph:

"Michigan’s Secretary of State previously said she was
expecting 2.5 million absentee ballots. By Wednesday
morning, however, that total -- the source alleged --
increased to 5.6 million, with the majority going up in
places like Detroit. "

Uh, she said before the election that she printed two and a
half million ballots and then after a result she didn't like
she's now counting 5.6 million mail-ins? Really?

One small item in a very long list including a pile of
over-100-years-old 'absentee' voters counted in Tarrant
County TX (saw it on the radio, WBAP Dallas early this morning)
--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM


(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855



The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very
different things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State has
complete authority, not Governors, judges or election
boards. The was recently repealed by Chief Justice "it's not
a fine, it's a tax" Roberts invoking ukase.


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 12:40:28 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM


(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855



The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very
different things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State has
complete authority, not Governors, judges or election
boards. The was recently repealed by Chief Justice "it's not
a fine, it's a tax" Roberts invoking ukase.


Laws also must be applied consistently with the state and federal constitutions. State supreme courts make that call -- all the time. That's what they do. Roberts got it exactly right in deferring to the rulings of the states' highest courts when it comes to the interpretation and application of state election laws.

-- Jay Beattie.

On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 12:40:28 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM


(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855



The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very
different things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State has
complete authority, not Governors, judges or election
boards. The was recently repealed by Chief Justice "it's not
a fine, it's a tax" Roberts invoking ukase.

Laws also must be applied consistently with the state and federal constitutions. State supreme courts make that call -- all the time. That's what they do. Roberts got it exactly right in deferring to the rulings of the states' highest courts when it comes to the interpretation and application of state election laws.

-- Jay Beattie.
The LAW is the will of the people as voted on by the representatives of the people. Not a governor or a judge who believes themselves to be above the law.

On 11/5/2020 3:35 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 12:40:28 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM


(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855



The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very
different things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State has
complete authority, not Governors, judges or election
boards. The was recently repealed by Chief Justice "it's not
a fine, it's a tax" Roberts invoking ukase.


Laws also must be applied consistently with the state and federal constitutions. State supreme courts make that call -- all the time. That's what they do. Roberts got it exactly right in deferring to the rulings of the states' highest courts when it comes to the interpretation and application of state election laws.

-- Jay Beattie.


But the same question was resolved differently for Wisconsin
(no) than for Pennsylvania (yes) days apart.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/5/2020 3:41 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 1:35:15 PM UTC-8, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 12:40:28 PM UTC-8, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM


(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855



The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very
different things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State has
complete authority, not Governors, judges or election
boards. The was recently repealed by Chief Justice "it's not
a fine, it's a tax" Roberts invoking ukase.

Laws also must be applied consistently with the state and federal constitutions. State supreme courts make that call -- all the time. That's what they do. Roberts got it exactly right in deferring to the rulings of the states' highest courts when it comes to the interpretation and application of state election laws.

-- Jay Beattie.
The LAW is the will of the people as voted on by the representatives of the people. Not a governor or a judge who believes themselves to be above the law.



In theory anyway.
Explain the Federal Tax Code. I'll wait.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On 11/5/2020 3:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
*From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM



(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855




The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very different
things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State has complete
authority, not Governors, judges or election boards.

Judges obviously have a place in deciding the meaning of laws. That's
why they exist. Election boards and governors often have authority given
to them by legislators. This is normal and correct.

There have been some abuses in the past (see below*), there will be some
abuses in the future, but in elections watched as closely as this one,
it seems very unlikely there's been truly significant wrongdoing so far.

AFAIK there is no law claiming that vote counting must be stopped before
all legally cast ballots are counted - which is what Trump is trying to say.

* Remember the Diebold controversy in Ohio in 2004? "I am committed to
helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president." And
Diebold's machines didn't work right in heavily Democratic areas, and
exit polls differed greatly from machine vote counts, which did indeed
get "delivered" to Bush.

https://columbusfreepress.com/articl...ohio-elections

--
- Frank Krygowski

On 11/5/2020 4:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 3:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM



(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855




The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very
different things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State
has complete authority, not Governors, judges or election
boards.

Judges obviously have a place in deciding the meaning of
laws. That's why they exist. Election boards and governors
often have authority given to them by legislators. This is
normal and correct.

There have been some abuses in the past (see below*), there
will be some abuses in the future, but in elections watched
as closely as this one, it seems very unlikely there's been
truly significant wrongdoing so far.

AFAIK there is no law claiming that vote counting must be
stopped before all legally cast ballots are counted - which
is what Trump is trying to say.

* Remember the Diebold controversy in Ohio in 2004? "I am
committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the
president." And Diebold's machines didn't work right in
heavily Democratic areas, and exit polls differed greatly
from machine vote counts, which did indeed get "delivered"
to Bush.

https://columbusfreepress.com/articl...ohio-elections



Oh, don't mistake my comments for newly found partisan
outrage. I've been reading the Chicago Tribune for 50 years,
the running log of professionals and their craft.

Check out the story of Lyndon Johnson's first two elections
some time.
https://www.worldtribune.com/how-lan...-race-in-1948/

He stuffed ballots in 1941 but hie opponent stuffed more.
He learned from that and prevailed in 1948 after the war.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2020 17:00:24 -0600, AMuzi wrote:

On 11/5/2020 4:41 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 3:40 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:50 PM, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 11/5/2020 1:53 PM, AMuzi wrote:
On 11/5/2020 12:13 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 9:06:32 AM UTC-8, AMuzi
wrote:
On 11/5/2020 10:17 AM, Andre Jute wrote:
On Thursday, November 5, 2020 at 3:56:20 PM UTC, Andre
Jute wrote:
“The people who cast the votes decide nothing.
The people who count the votes decide everything.â€
-- Joseph Stalin, 1923

Looks like the Donkey Party Election Fraud Unit is
working overtime to prove Uncle Joe right.

Andre Jute
From Stalin's grave there's a clear view of his wife
Nadia's grave. She committed suicide because she could
no longer bear living with him.

Here's a good one. The people of Wisconsin are
especially civic-minded, well known for their exception
voting prowess:

Wisconsin reports 3,684,726 active registered voters.

They counted 3,288,771 votes.

89% turnout?

Joe Stalin might not have questioned 89% turnout, but
in a semi-free, supposedly democratic country with a
long, long history of near-indifference from actual
voters? As the Other Joe will say, "Come on, man!"

Andre Jute
It's the stuff of standup comedy before an audience of
statisticians.

Sorta true sorta not. Actually it's worse.

Three governors ago we had a different commie regime and
that's when they started 'register while voting', an open
invitation to fraud. In my county, one must show photo
ID to
get a ballot at the polls. Not so in Milwaukee County and
other leftie areas. A guy could just show up, make up a
name
and address, and vote in every ward all day long without
ever being challenged. And so they do.

Not to mention mail-in frauds & thefts of all types:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world...es/ar-BB1aFhiM



(note right wing source there. most of these are poorly
reported if at all)


https://www.bizpacreview.com/2018/11...lection-691855




The excellent Governor DeSantis canned Brenda Snipes and
other crooked county clerks, revamped the system and got
the Florida vote counted and certified Tuesday evening on
time. A far cry from Florida 2000 or Florida 2016 or WI,
MI, PA, GA this year.

What's the definition of "on time"? Doesn't that vary state
by state?



The actual statutes or the 2020 ad hoc revisions? Two very
different things.

Article II Section 2 says the legislature of each State
has complete authority, not Governors, judges or election
boards.

Judges obviously have a place in deciding the meaning of
laws. That's why they exist. Election boards and governors
often have authority given to them by legislators. This is
normal and correct.

There have been some abuses in the past (see below*), there
will be some abuses in the future, but in elections watched
as closely as this one, it seems very unlikely there's been
truly significant wrongdoing so far.

AFAIK there is no law claiming that vote counting must be
stopped before all legally cast ballots are counted - which
is what Trump is trying to say.

* Remember the Diebold controversy in Ohio in 2004? "I am
committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the
president." And Diebold's machines didn't work right in
heavily Democratic areas, and exit polls differed greatly
from machine vote counts, which did indeed get "delivered"
to Bush.

https://columbusfreepress.com/articl...ohio-elections



Oh, don't mistake my comments for newly found partisan
outrage. I've been reading the Chicago Tribune for 50 years,
the running log of professionals and their craft.

Check out the story of Lyndon Johnson's first two elections
some time.
https://www.worldtribune.com/how-lan...-race-in-1948/

He stuffed ballots in 1941 but hie opponent stuffed more.
He learned from that and prevailed in 1948 after the war.

Yawn... Have a look at Louisiana politics. Huey Long who literally
ruled Louisiana like a king from 1928 to his assignation in 1935
almost immediately after overseeing the passing of a re-districting
plan to preventing political opponents from becoming judges.

Or even better, the career of "Mayor Curley" who was elected as an
Alderman while in prison for fraud and was elected to his 4th term as
Mayor of Boston while under indictment by a federal grand jury. He was
elected with 45% of the vote, was convicted and served 5 months. His
sentence was commuted and upon his return, "crowd of thousands greeted
Curley upon his return to Boston, with a brass band playing "Hail to
the Chief".
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Cheers,

John B.