Fresh satellite photos for bike path conditions?

For your reference, records indicate that
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

just posting the trail condition videos

This is the answer, no drones required. If the agency involved with
maintaining the trail won’t post information regarding its status,
the community that uses it should find a way to crowdsource the
effort. It can be as simple as posting ride reports to a web site or
on social media.

--
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:33:52 AM UTC-5, Doc O'Leary wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that
Jeff Liebermann wrote:

just posting the trail condition videos

This is the answer, no drones required. If the agency involved with
maintaining the trail won’t post information regarding its status,
the community that uses it should find a way to crowdsource the
effort. It can be as simple as posting ride reports to a web site or
on social media.

--
"Also . . . I can kill you with my brain."
River Tam, Trash, Firefly

///// AHNO, the agency posted trail reports then posted public notices of the landslide with a photo.

//// the agency expects some intelligence on your part with all the flood closings quickly removing the landslide isnot in odor. In facto see if access exists at either end.../////

yawl see the photo I posted of a landslide over on a Columbia River road ? overhang let go .... perfect very cone shaped right across the 2 lane but not much further.

J threatens climbing up around....when does this happen bring a camera ?

On 2017-02-11 21:31, John B. wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 07:47:01 -0800, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-02-10 21:46, John B. wrote:
On Fri, 10 Feb 2017 19:42:34 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 9:11:17 PM UTC-5, Doug Landau wrote:
On Friday, February 10, 2017 at 5:30:07 PM UTC-8, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 5:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-02-10 16:27, sms wrote:
On 2/10/2017 1:08 PM, Joerg wrote:
While there are plenty of services for motorists to find out about road
closures there is next to nothing for cyclists. Right now I need to know
whether a particular section of the American River Bike Path (north of
Lake Natoma) is still closed or not. There was a major rock slide on
Jan-22. Park service sites are generally unhelpful because there are
hardly any current status notifications and inquiries remain unanswered.

Is there a really up to day and free site with sateliite images detailed
enough to find out if the big boulders are still blocking the path? Must
have date stamp, else it's of no use.

Or maybe there is the outside chance someone reading this rode
Sacramento-Folsom or vice versa this week and could tell.

I had the same issue with a bicycle trail that runs along a creek in
Santa Clara. There is no way to find out the status of it. They close it
when the creek is too high because the underpasses will be flooded.


Here as well but I often use my own judgement and plow through,
especially on the MTB. Even if the BB submarines.

They have gates on the multi-use trails here, and they close them if
they are worried about flooding. And they also close some when there's
an event at Levi's stadium.

f*ckin a$$holes

But if the gates are NOT closed and someone gets hurt you can bet that the hurt someone or their relatives will sue because the gates weren't closed. If that person had ridden around the closed gates and got hurt they'ed still sue and with many recent wins they'd probably win too.

Re. the case of closing gates; it looks like a dmaned if you do it and dmaned if you don't do it. Next thing you know municipalities will be saying it's not worth the hassels and close the trails entirely.

Cheers

It is mind boggling.

Granted it is a long time since I lived there but I have memories of a
self-sufficient people. Now apparently (from the posts here) they need
a nanny to tell them when the road is closed.

Or is that just in California ?


No, city folk, usually. Country folk is still (largely) like you
remember. The problem is a tort law "system" run amok. So people try to
make a buck when they screwed up and some ambulance chaser convinces
them that they can blame it on someone else with deep pockets. Because
of the ill-fated bounty method they are unfortunately allowed to offer
the financial risk to the suing party is zero. It shouldn't be.

I really do find it a bit humorous (in a sick sort of way). I recently
read a post on another site about a guy helping his neighbor by
welding something, I forgot what. Anyway, what appeared to be the
first response to his post was a post that cautioned him about helping
his neighbor as "if the weld should break he could sue you".

Whatever happened? I remember helping my neighbors when I lived in the
U.S.


As I said, that is still so in neghborhoods like ours outside cities. A
neighbor made me structural parts for my MTB (because the industry
didn't figure it out, don't get me started again ...). In return I
usually help him with all things electrical. A couple of weeks ago he
used my ... gasp ... (horror!) ... modified tile saw. Before that we
cut and schlepped a huge pine together.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-02-11 14:09, jbeattie wrote:
On Saturday, February 11, 2017 at 7:41:40 AM UTC-8, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-02-11 03:05, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
J, gotta rain report ?


It stopped and we'll have sunshine for several days now. Good
riding weather. But I ride rain or shine anyhow so doesn't matter
to me.

Notwithstanding my current state of decrepitude,


What happened? A crash? Flu?


... I went for a ride
into the country today and found that the worst parts of my route
were the bike lanes through a rural area and a separate MUP close to
home on my return trip.


Au contraire with me. I did my valley run yesterday. Bike lanes and most
of all MUPs were, as usual, by far the best part. A couple of tunnels
were flooded but not much more than half a foot so I stepped on it, then
raised my legs and let it coast through.

To my surprise my average speed was almost the same as on weekdays and
this was a Saturday where MUP are full. More joggers and runners than
cyclists this time. You just have to use Porsche-style passing style
sometimes, full acceleration, hard brakes and back in line, then pass
the front group.


The problem was blow-down and gravel drifts.
We "sand" our streets with gravel that gets pushed off into the bike
lanes. It accumulates enough to make it dangerous or at least
unpleasant.

The MUP was mandatory because the adjacent road is shut down due to
construction. The last time I rode it, there was a big tree down
across the trail, so I had to do some hiking. That had been removed,
and the major obstacle today was dogs and people.
https://www.flickr.com/photos/bikepo...7658677112598/
(Tryon Creek Trail).


That is one sorry MUP. Ours are generally way better, wider, with median
line and all that.


People who let their dogs wander off leash on a busy MUP should be
shot, particularly when it is now the only route for bikes (a fact
that is clear from all the detour and watch-for-bikes signs).


Here hikers adhere to the "walk on the left - ride on the right" rule
quite well. Very few dogs were off leash. Often I stop to meet the dog.
I like dogs and they usually sense that quickly. The only problem on
dirt paths or singletrack was when the owner wasn't in sight and the dog
liked me so much that it wanted to tag along. Then I had to wait or find
the owner. I carry a spare leash on my MTB as well as road bike. It
resulted in little Odin finding back home (but my wife had to meet me
with the car because he couldn't have made all those miles with his
short legs).


The city is looking at many $M for repairs to the roadway after the
multiple freeze-thaw snow-pocalypses we've had this year. Whatever
flavor of asphalt we use, it clearly cannot stand up to a rough
winter, even a short one. The roads are riddled with pot-holes now.
I wanged into one so hard the other night (it was dark, raining and
the pot hole was filled with water) that it rotated my bars downward
-- and they were torqued per spec. I haven't bother looking at my
front rim yet. It's a CR18 that I just threw on -- a pretty beefy
rim, so it's probably O.K.


That is one of many problems with riding in the lane. The biggest one
for me are inattentive or aggressive drivers. Then all that noise. Even
with my MP3 player cranked to the max I can hardly hear the music. Very
different on MUP.


BTW, riding my flying pig commuter bike every day sure makes my not
so light Roubaix-with-fenders feel like an F-1, although I'm still
not dialed in on that bike and don't know if I'll ever really like
the front-end geometry.


I ride whatever is there but I've got both MTB and road bike dialed in well.

The rock slide is still there, except now that we had another deluge of
rain there are three. So that trail section remains closed and will be
for a long time :-(

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-02-12 07:59, DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH wrote:
On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 10:33:52 AM UTC-5, Doc O'Leary
wrote:
For your reference, records indicate that Jeff Liebermann
wrote:

just posting the trail condition videos

This is the answer, no drones required. If the agency involved
with maintaining the trail won’t post information regarding its
status, the community that uses it should find a way to crowdsource
the effort. It can be as simple as posting ride reports to a web
site or on social media.

-- "Also . . . I can kill you with my brain." River Tam, Trash,
Firefly

///// AHNO, the agency posted trail reports then posted public
notices of the landslide with a photo.


Right after the slide. Then ... nothing. No updates at all. Meantime
(yesterday) I saw there are two more rock slides next to the one from
Jan-22.


//// the agency expects some intelligence on your part with all the
flood closings quickly removing the landslide isnot in odor. In facto
see if access exists at either end.../////

yawl see the photo I posted of a landslide over on a Columbia River
road ? overhang let go .... perfect very cone shaped right across the
2 lane but not much further.

J threatens climbing up around....when does this happen bring a
camera ?


I didn't. The ranger at Lake Natoma told me it's formally closed and
later I saw a ranger vehicle going down the MUP with the lights
flashing. Not an opportune moment to scale a rock slide in a formally
closed trail section. So I turned around and stepped on it to be at a
stop in El Dorado Hills at 2pm.

A small detour I couldn't resist, past Folsom Lake dam. The lake is now
full and they are releasing so much water that you can feel the spray in
your face on the MUP.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 2017-02-11 18:55, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Sat, 11 Feb 2017 15:19:41 -0800 (PST), DATAKOLL MARINE RESEARCH
wrote:

fly a drone ?

Well yes. You don't ride or drive a drone.


How about a "drone-cycle"?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XkHsinz7oU

[...]

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 11:34:01 AM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
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I carry a spare leash on my MTB as well as road bike.

You carry a spare leash but not a small chain tool? Unbelievable!

That is one of many problems with riding in the lane. The biggest one
for me are inattentive or aggressive drivers. Then all that noise. Even
with my MP3 player cranked to the max I can hardly hear the music. Very
different on MUP.

WOW! Riding where there are many inattentive drivers but yet you crank up an MP3 player to high volume? Most people in traffic WANT to be able to hear stuff around them.

You are absolutely astounding.

Cheers

On 2017-02-12 09:21, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 11:34:01 AM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
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I carry a spare leash on my MTB as well as road bike.

You carry a spare leash but not a small chain tool? Unbelievable!


Maybe it hasn't occurred to you yet but I consider a life more valuable
than a chain. A lot more valuable. Little Odin was about 50 yards away
from a major thoroughfare and wandering towards it when I found him.


That is one of many problems with riding in the lane. The biggest
one for me are inattentive or aggressive drivers. Then all that
noise. Even with my MP3 player cranked to the max I can hardly hear
the music. Very different on MUP.

WOW! Riding where there are many inattentive drivers but yet you
crank up an MP3 player to high volume? Most people in traffic WANT to
be able to hear stuff around them.

You are absolutely astounding.


If you had read carefully you'd have noticed that I stated that the MP3
player can't be heard so it would not even matter if I left it on.
Besides, you cannot hear if a driver suddenly veers because he "needs"
to retrieve his phone that slid off the passenger seat.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:21:08 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 11:34:01 AM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
Snipped
I carry a spare leash on my MTB as well as road bike.

You carry a spare leash but not a small chain tool? Unbelievable!

That is one of many problems with riding in the lane. The biggest one
for me are inattentive or aggressive drivers. Then all that noise. Even
with my MP3 player cranked to the max I can hardly hear the music. Very
different on MUP.

WOW! Riding where there are many inattentive drivers but yet you crank up an MP3 player to high volume? Most people in traffic WANT to be able to hear stuff around them.

You are absolutely astounding.

Cheers

I am beginning to wonder. About half of the time we are in Bangkok,
which seems to be rated as the 2nd most chaotic traffic in the world.
Mexico City is rated the worst and in comparison Los Angeles is rated
10th.

But yet, even in the 2nd most chaotic traffic in the world I don't
seem to experience the problems that some seem to suffer.

I can only assume that Thailand, which is often refereed to as "The
Land of Smiles" ( a phrase invented by the Tourist Authority of
Thailand some 30 years ago) must be inhabited my a much nicer breed of
cats than "The Land of the Free and the Brave".
--
Cheers,

John B.

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 7:33:27 PM UTC-5, John B. wrote:
On Sun, 12 Feb 2017 09:21:08 -0800 (PST), Sir Ridesalot
wrote:

On Sunday, February 12, 2017 at 11:34:01 AM UTC-5, Joerg wrote:
Snipped
I carry a spare leash on my MTB as well as road bike.

You carry a spare leash but not a small chain tool? Unbelievable!

That is one of many problems with riding in the lane. The biggest one
for me are inattentive or aggressive drivers. Then all that noise. Even
with my MP3 player cranked to the max I can hardly hear the music. Very
different on MUP.

WOW! Riding where there are many inattentive drivers but yet you crank up an MP3 player to high volume? Most people in traffic WANT to be able to hear stuff around them.

You are absolutely astounding.

Cheers

I am beginning to wonder. About half of the time we are in Bangkok,
which seems to be rated as the 2nd most chaotic traffic in the world.
Mexico City is rated the worst and in comparison Los Angeles is rated
10th.

But yet, even in the 2nd most chaotic traffic in the world I don't
seem to experience the problems that some seem to suffer.

I can only assume that Thailand, which is often refereed to as "The
Land of Smiles" ( a phrase invented by the Tourist Authority of
Thailand some 30 years ago) must be inhabited my a much nicer breed of
cats than "The Land of the Free and the Brave".
--
Cheers,

John B.

I knew one of the Kings cousins. he was always in state