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Old April 3rd 09, 11:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.rides
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Scott F. wrote:
So far the Katy Times has not updated the story. Apparently the
publishers feel it is acceptable to report a story without using the
victims name, or even the name of the person who murdred the cyclist
be improper use of a motor vehicle.


One thing the papers rarely report on is the result of the civil suit
that (hopefully) follows an outrage like this. Settlements in a
wrongful death suit can easily run into seven figures. I hope this
victim's family gets a good lawyer. It's cold comfort, but it'll at
least make up for the financial part of the loss.
And maybe deter the next idiot cager...


Bill



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Old April 3rd 09, 11:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.rides
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On Apr 3, 5:45�pm, wrote:
Scott F. wrote:
So far the Katy Times has not updated the story. �Apparently the
publishers feel it is acceptable to report a story without using the
victims name, or even the name of the person who murdred the cyclist
be improper use of a motor vehicle.


� �One thing the papers rarely report on is the result of the civil suit
that (hopefully) follows an outrage like this. �Settlements in a
wrongful death suit can easily run into seven figures. �I hope this
victim's family gets a good lawyer. �It's cold comfort, but it'll at
least make up for the financial part of the loss.
� �And maybe deter the next idiot cager...

Bill

� �__o � | �Roads aren't for cars. �They're for people.
�_`\(,_ �|
(_)/ (_) |


Agreed.
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Old April 4th 09, 01:43 AM posted to rec.bicycles.rides
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“The BMW failed to yield the right of way while turning left and
struck a pedal cyclist attempting to travel eastbound through the
intersection,” a statement from the sheriff’s office said.

Interesting if you dissect it..

1. "The BMW failed to...." Instead of putting a human face on this
tragedy, they report that a "BMW" - not a person driving a BMW- was involved
in this accident.
2. I wonder if, by noting that it was a BMW, they are suggesting that
people who drive BMW's are self-absorbed and don't watch the road as
attentively as they should -- or if they are, in some sick way, presenting
this as a case of an affluent driver (of course she was well-educated and an
above average driver if she was driving a Beamer) versus some bum on a
bicycle.
3. Note that they soften the actions of the driver by saying "The BMW failed
to yield the right of way" instead of saying "The BMW driver blindly made a
left turn and mowed down a cyclist." But then, they make the cyclist look
like he did something wrong by "attempting to travel eastbound through the
intersection," as if traveling eastbound and crossing an intersection are
irresponsible behavior on the part of the cyclist.

I don't mean to belabor this point or incite a riot, but the way this story
was reported is pretty interesting. Granted, it was probably written by a
22 year old startup journalist who didn't give it a second read and never
intended it to be analyzed like this. But the way auto/bicycle accidents
are reported sets the tone for how people view cyclists, in general. I find
that, in many (if not most) cases, these articles are slanted toward the
auto driver, usually painting the bicyclist as a crazy, out-of-control
cowboy. When people read that kind of stuff, they tend to believe it!


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Old April 4th 09, 06:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.rides
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On 4 Apr, 02:43, "Papa Tom" wrote:
“The BMW failed to yield the right of way while turning left and

struck a pedal cyclist attempting to travel eastbound through the
intersection,” a statement from the sheriff’s office said.
Interesting if you dissect it..
1. *"The BMW failed to...." * Instead of putting a human face on this
tragedy, they report that a "BMW" - not a person driving a BMW- was involved
in this accident.
2. *I wonder if, by noting that it was a BMW,


I would tend to agree with you.
However, note that was the Officer's report and the journalist was
merely citing it. No freedom of thought of his own to express. Not his
duty, nor his mission.
The Officer himself was in no position to make a better statement. He
only saw the BMW and that stupid little bike.
He could not deny that.
No way for him to make an investigation at the spot, let alone to
speak about responsibilities on either side.
After all, it could had been only the result of a mechanical failure;
if so, the lawyer of the girl driver would easily jump in and sue him,
had he hinted to her responsibility. Nor could he propose the
mechanical failure explanation, either. The BMW would jump in.
Better to keep shut.
Better report as little as possible.

You see, it is the very same culture and attitude that prompted
someone else to write:
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I hope this victim's family gets a good lawyer. It's cold comfort,
but it'll at
least make up for the financial part of the loss.
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As if one could voice his anger only through a lawyer and expect
justice only through a bank check.

Sergio
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Old April 4th 09, 08:43 PM posted to rec.bicycles.rides
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In article
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"Scott F." wrote:

On Apr 2, 10:36?pm, Tim McNamara wrote:
"Murder" is a deliberately loaded word and it is loathsome of you
to keep drilling on it. ?Murder requires premeditation and intent
to kill, neither of which have been demonstrated here. ?Stop being
an asshat and making the tragic situation even worse than it
already is.


It was premeditated. The girl deliberately, and with malice
aforethought, violated basic traffic laws without regard to the
tragedy her actions would cause. It's murder. Now do us all a
favor. Climb up my leg and have a ball...


Oh, **** you troll. You're being deliberately provocative so that
someone pays attention to your pathetic bull****.
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Old April 4th 09, 08:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.rides
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In article
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"Scott F." wrote:

On Apr 2, 10:40?pm, Tim McNamara wrote:

Knock off the histrionics. ?The poor man is dead and the driver
will carry this for the next 80 years of her life.


I hope your family will be just as hushed and reserved when you get
run over while enjoying a nice bike ride. I hope they are quiet. I
hope they shrug and go, "oh well" that's life.


Good grief. Are you the Banana Commendante's new sock puppet of love?
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Old April 4th 09, 09:58 PM posted to rec.bicycles.rides
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On Apr 4, 2:43*pm, Tim McNamara wrote:

Oh, **** you troll. *You're being deliberately provocative so that
someone pays attention to your pathetic bull****.


Like you????
 




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