Mineral oil and Mavic Ksyrium freehub maintenance

I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are regular sewing
machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the supermarket considered to be
mineral oil?

Any comments?
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Artoi wrote:
I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are regular sewing
machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the supermarket considered to be
mineral oil?

Any comments?
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I'm thinking that they're talking about something more like a GL-1 gear
lube, which is immediately what I think of when you say "mineral oil."
However, I'm coming from an automotive perspective so it's best to wait
for a more informed response.

They're typically hard to find at your FLAPS but if you have a farm and
fleet, tractor supply, etc. they were commonly used in old tractor
transmissions and other implements, so they are still available there.
Do NOT use a gear oil with a GL-x rating where x does not equal one in
any application that calls for "straight mineral oil." Typically the
compatibility issues have to do with EP additives that may cause
corrosion problems with some yellow metals. The only possible exception
would be in a very old mechanism where the documentation was written
before EP additives were introduced and you can confirm that there are
no materials in the assembly that could be adversely affected by said
additives (often sulfur-based compounds.) Obviously that is not the
case with the freehubs to which you're referring.

Like I said, I am speaking from an automotive perspective - "mineral
oil" in that context generally means "GL-1 gear oil." Mavic may have
something completely different in mind. Did they recommend a specific
brand of lube, or simply used the words "mineral oil?"

good luck

nate

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Nate Nagel wrote:
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They're typically hard to find at your FLAPS but if you have a farm and
fleet, tractor supply, etc.[...]

Translation: if you live in a proper neighborhood.

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Artoi ? wrote:
I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are regular sewing
machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the supermarket considered to be
mineral oil?

Any comments?
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Yes, read this link:
http://roguemechanic.typepad.com/roguemechanic/2006/05/how_does_a_mavi.html.

It claims that Pedro's Road Rage® is the proper lubricant.

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Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
The weather is here, wish you were beautiful

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Artoi wrote:

I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are regular sewing
machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the supermarket considered to be
mineral oil?

Petroleum is a mineral. Mineral oil is an oil fraction
distilled from petroleum. Not mineral oil is lard,
butter, safflower oil, ...

Mineral oil is made from alkanes; long chain fully saturated
carbon an hydrogen.
Not mineral oil is mostly unsaturated; sterols; esters ...
some oxygens in there.

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Michael Press

In article ,
Artoi wrote:

I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are regular sewing
machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the supermarket considered to be
mineral oil?

An addendum to my previous answer.
Buy a quart of mineral oil at the pharmacy.
Guaranteed no unpredictable additives.
Good for whet stones and other uses around the house too.

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Michael Press

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Michael Press wrote:
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Artoi wrote:

I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium
freehubs. The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are
regular sewing machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the
supermarket considered to be mineral oil?

An addendum to my previous answer.
Buy a quart of mineral oil at the pharmacy.
Guaranteed no unpredictable additives.
Good for whet stones and other uses around the house too.

Whetstones.

Not to be confused with kidney stones.

On Apr 10, 6:34 pm, Artoi wrote:

I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil?

Any comments?

ATB freehub oil works wonderfully in this application. Too bad the
Mavic freehub design is so poor. The unsupported bearing and cheesy
rubber seal is too much maintenance for me. I sold my Ksyriums and
bought Euruses (Is that the proper plural form?) and haven't looked
back.

ATB oil is hard to find but there are several threads about it on the
Serotta Forum. I use ATB #1 fr the chain, ATB freehub oil for hubs and
ATB grease for things requiring grease.

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Mike

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Tom Sherman wrote:

Artoi ? wrote:
I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are regular sewing
machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the supermarket considered to be
mineral oil?

Any comments?
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Yes, read this link:
http://roguemechanic.typepad.com/roguemechanic/2006/05/how_does_a_mavi.html.

It claims that Pedro's Road Rage® is the proper lubricant.

Yes, I saw that clip too. It was that clip that reminded me that I
should give my Ksyrium a clean and re-lube.
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In article ,
Michael Press wrote:

In article ,
Artoi wrote:

I understand that Mavic calls for mineral oil in their Ksyrium freehubs.
The question is, just exactly what is mineral oil? Are regular sewing
machine oil suitable? Are baby oil from the supermarket considered to be
mineral oil?

An addendum to my previous answer.
Buy a quart of mineral oil at the pharmacy.
Guaranteed no unpredictable additives.
Good for whet stones and other uses around the house too.

They have them at pharmacies? I'll look into it.
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