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  #11  
Old May 2nd 14, 11:37 AM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
F Murtz[_2_]
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Jonz wrote:
On 5/2/2014 6:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Jeus wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2014 12:50:53 +1000, Jonz wrote:

About time!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/duncan-gay...502-zr2zf.html



I'm in two minds about it myself - other than I'd love licencing to
come in for the 'bicycle Nazis' that infest our roads.

Must be a full moon 2UE has been pushing all afternoon ( and Duncan
grey)

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~```
His name is Duncan Gay. Helps to know to whom you are
referring..


Don't like to use the word since it was stolen

for license and fluoro jacket with a number on the back.
They wish to sound a death Knell for cycling.
The cycle use would drop dramatically,There is not a hope in hades that
I would wear a fluoro jacket with a number, I would just never ride a
bicycle again.
Same with mandated clothing for my motorcycle I would just have to cease
riding.
They have already knobbled cycle use with mandated helmets (which some
think good) but bicycle use dropped when it was introduced, if they
mandate fluoro jackets with numbers on the back only the yuppy lycra
crowd would still cycle.



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  #12  
Old May 2nd 14, 12:05 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
D Walford
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On 02/05/2014 7:53 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 7:12 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 6:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Jeus wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2014 12:50:53 +1000, Jonz wrote:

About time!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/duncan-gay...502-zr2zf.html






I'm in two minds about it myself - other than I'd love licencing to
come in for the 'bicycle Nazis' that infest our roads.

Must be a full moon 2UE has been pushing all afternoon ( and Duncan
grey) for license and fluoro jacket with a number on the back.
They wish to sound a death Knell for cycling.
The cycle use would drop dramatically,There is not a hope in hades
that
I would wear a fluoro jacket with a number, I would just never ride a
bicycle again.

Why?

Same with mandated clothing for my motorcycle I would just have to
cease
riding.

So you don't wear a helmet when riding your motorcycle?

I do but It is not fluoro and it is a single item, totally different to
mandated clothing

They have already knobbled cycle use with mandated helmets (which some
think good) but bicycle use dropped when it was introduced,

If that's true it just shows how dumb most cyclists are.

if they
mandate fluoro jackets with numbers on the back only the yuppy lycra
crowd would still cycle.

Why?

It is just what would happen.
Just wait an see, (if they are stupid enough to mandate fluoro vests
with a number on the back.)



Why is it stupid?
Are seat belts in cars and helmets for motorcycles stupid?


You keep bringing in motor cycle helmets and seat belts which are a
different kettle of fish and I am not discussing them.


Sounds like your fear of compulsory safety items for cyclist is
irrational, many people complained about compulsory safety in cars and
helmets on motor bikes yet both are well proven life savers.

Cyclists have zero protection and are often difficult to see, better to
be seen than dead or seriously injured.
With a visible number cyclists could be identified when they break the
road rules, couldn't have cyclists obey the road now could we.


Most ordinary people look at these things like lights on, fluro clothing
etc because their mind thinks that it would fix things because it sounds
to them so sensible that it would fix things which is not necessarily
the case statistically


There aren't any statistics on the items in question because they are
not yet in common use.



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  #13  
Old May 2nd 14, 01:20 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
F Murtz[_2_]
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D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 7:53 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 7:12 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 6:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Jeus wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2014 12:50:53 +1000, Jonz wrote:

About time!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/duncan-gay...502-zr2zf.html







I'm in two minds about it myself - other than I'd love licencing to
come in for the 'bicycle Nazis' that infest our roads.

Must be a full moon 2UE has been pushing all afternoon ( and Duncan
grey) for license and fluoro jacket with a number on the back.
They wish to sound a death Knell for cycling.
The cycle use would drop dramatically,There is not a hope in hades
that
I would wear a fluoro jacket with a number, I would just never ride a
bicycle again.

Why?

Same with mandated clothing for my motorcycle I would just have to
cease
riding.

So you don't wear a helmet when riding your motorcycle?

I do but It is not fluoro and it is a single item, totally different to
mandated clothing

They have already knobbled cycle use with mandated helmets (which
some
think good) but bicycle use dropped when it was introduced,

If that's true it just shows how dumb most cyclists are.

if they
mandate fluoro jackets with numbers on the back only the yuppy lycra
crowd would still cycle.

Why?

It is just what would happen.
Just wait an see, (if they are stupid enough to mandate fluoro vests
with a number on the back.)



Why is it stupid?
Are seat belts in cars and helmets for motorcycles stupid?


You keep bringing in motor cycle helmets and seat belts which are a
different kettle of fish and I am not discussing them.


Sounds like your fear of compulsory safety items for cyclist is
irrational, many people complained about compulsory safety in cars and
helmets on motor bikes yet both are well proven life savers.


You are still going on about things which I was not discussing

Cyclists have zero protection and are often difficult to see, better to
be seen than dead or seriously injured.
With a visible number cyclists could be identified when they break the
road rules, couldn't have cyclists obey the road now could we.


Most ordinary people look at these things like lights on, fluro clothing
etc because their mind thinks that it would fix things because it sounds
to them so sensible that it would fix things which is not necessarily
the case statistically


There aren't any statistics on the items in question because they are
not yet in common use.




  #14  
Old May 2nd 14, 01:28 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
F Murtz[_2_]
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D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 7:53 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 7:12 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 6:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Jeus wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2014 12:50:53 +1000, Jonz wrote:

About time!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/duncan-gay...502-zr2zf.html







I'm in two minds about it myself - other than I'd love licencing to
come in for the 'bicycle Nazis' that infest our roads.

Must be a full moon 2UE has been pushing all afternoon ( and Duncan
grey) for license and fluoro jacket with a number on the back.
They wish to sound a death Knell for cycling.
The cycle use would drop dramatically,There is not a hope in hades
that
I would wear a fluoro jacket with a number, I would just never ride a
bicycle again.

Why?

Same with mandated clothing for my motorcycle I would just have to
cease
riding.

So you don't wear a helmet when riding your motorcycle?

I do but It is not fluoro and it is a single item, totally different to
mandated clothing

They have already knobbled cycle use with mandated helmets (which
some
think good) but bicycle use dropped when it was introduced,

If that's true it just shows how dumb most cyclists are.

if they
mandate fluoro jackets with numbers on the back only the yuppy lycra
crowd would still cycle.

Why?

It is just what would happen.
Just wait an see, (if they are stupid enough to mandate fluoro vests
with a number on the back.)



Why is it stupid?
Are seat belts in cars and helmets for motorcycles stupid?


You keep bringing in motor cycle helmets and seat belts which are a
different kettle of fish and I am not discussing them.


Sounds like your fear of compulsory safety items for cyclist is
irrational, many people complained about compulsory safety in cars and
helmets on motor bikes yet both are well proven life savers.

Cyclists have zero protection and are often difficult to see, better to
be seen than dead or seriously injured.
With a visible number cyclists could be identified when they break the
road rules, couldn't have cyclists obey the road now could we.


Most ordinary people look at these things like lights on, fluro clothing
etc because their mind thinks that it would fix things because it sounds
to them so sensible that it would fix things which is not necessarily
the case statistically


There aren't any statistics on the items in question because they are
not yet in common use.



There are studies about the lights on in the daytime

But I am having trouble finding any stats on hi viz that is not biased
by commercial interests.
There was a study on hi viz clothing for bicycles in England which found
that it did not change the vehicle bike clearances.

http://www.cyclingweekly.co.uk/news/...istances-23061
  #15  
Old May 2nd 14, 01:36 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
D Walford
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On 02/05/2014 10:20 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 7:53 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 7:12 PM, F Murtz wrote:
D Walford wrote:
On 02/05/2014 6:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:
Jeus wrote:
On Fri, 02 May 2014 12:50:53 +1000, Jonz wrote:

About time!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/duncan-gay...502-zr2zf.html








I'm in two minds about it myself - other than I'd love licencing to
come in for the 'bicycle Nazis' that infest our roads.

Must be a full moon 2UE has been pushing all afternoon ( and Duncan
grey) for license and fluoro jacket with a number on the back.
They wish to sound a death Knell for cycling.
The cycle use would drop dramatically,There is not a hope in hades
that
I would wear a fluoro jacket with a number, I would just never
ride a
bicycle again.

Why?

Same with mandated clothing for my motorcycle I would just have to
cease
riding.

So you don't wear a helmet when riding your motorcycle?

I do but It is not fluoro and it is a single item, totally
different to
mandated clothing

They have already knobbled cycle use with mandated helmets (which
some
think good) but bicycle use dropped when it was introduced,

If that's true it just shows how dumb most cyclists are.

if they
mandate fluoro jackets with numbers on the back only the yuppy lycra
crowd would still cycle.

Why?

It is just what would happen.
Just wait an see, (if they are stupid enough to mandate fluoro vests
with a number on the back.)



Why is it stupid?
Are seat belts in cars and helmets for motorcycles stupid?

You keep bringing in motor cycle helmets and seat belts which are a
different kettle of fish and I am not discussing them.


Sounds like your fear of compulsory safety items for cyclist is
irrational, many people complained about compulsory safety in cars and
helmets on motor bikes yet both are well proven life savers.


You are still going on about things which I was not discussing


Ignoring facts and burying your head in the sand won't make them
suddenly disappear.



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Daryl
  #16  
Old May 2nd 14, 01:37 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
Noddy[_2_]
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On 02/05/14 6:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Must be a full moon 2UE has been pushing all afternoon ( and Duncan
grey) for license and fluoro jacket with a number on the back.
They wish to sound a death Knell for cycling.


What rot

The cycle use would drop dramatically,There is not a hope in hades that
I would wear a fluoro jacket with a number, I would just never ride a
bicycle again.


And why is that? Do you like the idea of being able to get away with any
accidental damage you may cause and not be caught?

Same with mandated clothing for my motorcycle I would just have to cease
riding.


Presumably you wear a helmet

They have already knobbled cycle use with mandated helmets (which some
think good) but bicycle use dropped when it was introduced, if they
mandate fluoro jackets with numbers on the back only the yuppy lycra
crowd would still cycle.


Time will tell. Still, if every bike riding nutbag gave up in protest I
couldn't be happier


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Regards,
Noddy.
  #17  
Old May 2nd 14, 01:39 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
Noddy[_2_]
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On 02/05/14 7:12 PM, F Murtz wrote:

I do but It is not fluoro and it is a single item, totally different to
mandated clothing


How exactly?

It is just what would happen.


Oh, right.

Just wait an see, (if they are stupid enough to mandate fluoro vests
with a number on the back.)


They'd be stupid *not* to do it. It's *way* over due.



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Regards,
Noddy.
  #18  
Old May 2nd 14, 01:41 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
Noddy[_2_]
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On 02/05/14 8:37 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Don't like to use the word since it was stolen


It's his *name* for ****'s sake....

*Jesus*.


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Regards,
Noddy.
  #19  
Old May 2nd 14, 01:54 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
F Murtz[_2_]
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Noddy wrote:
On 02/05/14 8:37 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Don't like to use the word since it was stolen


It's his *name* for ****'s sake....

*Jesus*.



As a matter of fact I think that mr Gay used to live near me and I think
my brother pinched his mini before he was licensed And drove to the
beach.(They were mates)If he is the same Duncan gay.
My original "Duncan grey" was a brain fart the second post was Just a
silly answer for a silly poster.
  #20  
Old May 2nd 14, 02:07 PM posted to aus.cars,aus.bicycle
F Murtz[_2_]
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Default Bicycle license

Noddy wrote:
On 02/05/14 6:09 PM, F Murtz wrote:

Must be a full moon 2UE has been pushing all afternoon ( and Duncan
grey) for license and fluoro jacket with a number on the back.
They wish to sound a death Knell for cycling.


What rot

The cycle use would drop dramatically,There is not a hope in hades that
I would wear a fluoro jacket with a number, I would just never ride a
bicycle again.


And why is that? Do you like the idea of being able to get away with any
accidental damage you may cause and not be caught?

Same with mandated clothing for my motorcycle I would just have to cease
riding.


Presumably you wear a helmet


On the motor cycle yes, on the bicycle under protest, the times and
places that I ride a bicycle statistically would have a 10 million to
one (deliberately exaggerated)chance of having any bearing on damage to
my head.If I fell off highly unlikely to damage, if a vehicle drove over
my head it would not help.
PS there are statistics on bicycle helmets relation to head trauma
figures and their efficacy.



They have already knobbled cycle use with mandated helmets (which some
think good) but bicycle use dropped when it was introduced, if they
mandate fluoro jackets with numbers on the back only the yuppy lycra
crowd would still cycle.


Time will tell. Still, if every bike riding nutbag gave up in protest I
couldn't be happier



 




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