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Old March 18th 17, 01:39 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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So I bought one today road bike Team issue 58 cm. Riding carbon last 8 years and steel before that. I am hoping to catch the steel road ride that is an upgrade. The carbon bike is fine but seems 2 carbons are same thing, so give the TI a ride.

Anyone think this could be nuts? I do but hey.....

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Old March 18th 17, 03:25 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-7, wrote:
So I bought one today road bike Team issue 58 cm. Riding carbon last 8 years and steel before that. I am hoping to catch the steel road ride that is an upgrade. The carbon bike is fine but seems 2 carbons are same thing, so give the TI a ride.

Anyone think this could be nuts? I do but hey.....

Deacon Mark


Nope, not nuts, I don't think. I've been watching CL for one.

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Old March 18th 17, 05:07 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 1:39:24 AM UTC+1, wrote:
So I bought one today road bike Team issue 58 cm. Riding carbon last 8 years and steel before that. I am hoping to catch the steel road ride that is an upgrade. The carbon bike is fine but seems 2 carbons are same thing, so give the TI a ride.

Anyone think this could be nuts? I do but hey.....

Deacon Mark


If you think that is nuts I'm completely crazy having a CF, Ti and Alu roadbike. You will discover that Ti doesn't have magic riding qualities. It just doesn't need a paintjob and stays like new forever. Don't put parts on it that can rust. That would be strange.

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Old March 18th 17, 06:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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I don't expect it to have magic riding qualities but hoping it will be even soother than my CF. I remember my old steel Schwinn Traveler fro about 1991 was aqua green. Frankly road pretty good much better than any Al bike. Not as cutting fast and nimble as my CF but not harsh.

The whole Ti frame is different in Geometry so I wonder how that will be.

Deacon Mark.
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Old March 18th 17, 08:18 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Friday, March 17, 2017 at 5:39:24 PM UTC-7, wrote:
So I bought one today road bike Team issue 58 cm. Riding carbon last 8 years and steel before that. I am hoping to catch the steel road ride that is an upgrade. The carbon bike is fine but seems 2 carbons are same thing, so give the TI a ride.

Anyone think this could be nuts? I do but hey.....

Deacon Mark


At the age of that bike you probably won't have any worries but many ti bikes are built with improper welds that will crack. I said this to people several times and they have told me I'm FOS.

But two years ago one of our fast riders showed up with a Linskey and I told him about that and the whole group made a joke of me on the entire ride.

The following week I pointed out a crack on his downtube. Luckily with a new bike he could get a replacement frame.
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Old March 18th 17, 08:45 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-5, wrote:

At the age of that bike you probably won't have any worries but many ti bikes are built with improper welds that will crack. I said this to people several times and they have told me I'm FOS.

But two years ago one of our fast riders showed up with a Linskey and I told him about that and the whole group made a joke of me on the entire ride..

The following week I pointed out a crack on his downtube. Luckily with a new bike he could get a replacement frame.



So you are saying Lynskey, and Litespeed back when Lynskey started the company, don't know how to weld titanium? I have a Litespeed Tuscany, made before Lynskey sold the company, and I have not noticed any cracks or defects. But then I don't inspect the frame with a magnifying glass before and after every ride. I just ride the bike, and it rides fine every time. Many, many thousands of miles on the frame. Can't say whether your story is true or not. But I suspect every manufacturer has a defect every once in awhile. Even Rolls Royces and Rolexes need warranty work once in awhile. Its not like an anvil, where essentially nothing can break.
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Old March 18th 17, 11:53 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On 3/18/2017 3:45 PM, wrote:
On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-5, wrote:

At the age of that bike you probably won't have any worries but many ti bikes are built with improper welds that will crack. I said this to people several times and they have told me I'm FOS.

But two years ago one of our fast riders showed up with a Linskey and I told him about that and the whole group made a joke of me on the entire ride.

The following week I pointed out a crack on his downtube. Luckily with a new bike he could get a replacement frame.



So you are saying Lynskey, and Litespeed back when Lynskey started the company, don't know how to weld titanium? I have a Litespeed Tuscany, made before Lynskey sold the company, and I have not noticed any cracks or defects. But then I don't inspect the frame with a magnifying glass before and after every ride. I just ride the bike, and it rides fine every time. Many, many thousands of miles on the frame. Can't say whether your story is true or not. But I suspect every manufacturer has a defect every once in awhile. Even Rolls Royces and Rolexes need warranty work once in awhile. Its not like an anvil, where essentially nothing can break.


But someday, when we have carbon fiber anvils...

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Old March 19th 17, 08:56 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Sat, 18 Mar 2017 12:45:12 -0700 (PDT), "
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On Saturday, March 18, 2017 at 2:18:28 PM UTC-5, wrote:

At the age of that bike you probably won't have any worries but many ti bikes are built with improper welds that will crack. I said this to people several times and they have told me I'm FOS.

But two years ago one of our fast riders showed up with a Linskey and I told him about that and the whole group made a joke of me on the entire ride.

The following week I pointed out a crack on his downtube. Luckily with a new bike he could get a replacement frame.



So you are saying Lynskey, and Litespeed back when Lynskey started the company, don't know how to weld titanium? I have a Litespeed Tuscany, made before Lynskey sold the company, and I have not noticed any cracks or defects. But then I don't inspect the frame with a magnifying glass before and after every ride. I just ride the bike, and it rides fine every time. Many, many thousands of miles on the frame. Can't say whether your story is true or not. But I suspect every manufacturer has a defect every once in awhile. Even Rolls Royces and Rolexes need warranty work once in awhile. Its not like an anvil, where essentially nothing can break.


I don't know about Lynskey and Litespeed but welding titanium isn't
some sort of esoteric skill. It is just another welding skill that
probably thousands of people have. Perhaps unfortunately few qualified
aircraft welders are going to quit their top dollar job to build
bicycle frames :-)

(and yes, I do know what I am talking about as I certified as a USAF
Titanium welder in 1972, along with aluminum and stainless.)

In fact, all of the stories you hear about the problems in welding, or
brazing, bike frames are really only stories told by, what are
essentially, unqualified people.
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Cheers,

John B.

 




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