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Old December 3rd 18, 10:33 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
MrCheerful
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****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet. Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610
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Old December 3rd 18, 11:13 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
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On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610


QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists.

What are the chances, eh?
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Old December 4th 18, 10:59 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Peter Keller[_3_]
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On 12/4/18 10:33 AM, MrCheerful wrote:
****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610


Thank God he was not wearing a helmet. Otherwise if he had crashed into
a pedestrian he would have killed her too.
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Old December 4th 18, 05:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Jester
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Default "councils could not "babysit everyone on a bike or urge them toslow down"

On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 10:13:52 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610


QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists.

What are the chances, eh?


Is there a street view image of the entrance to this 'byway for pedestrians'?
Since it is not beside a carriageway then, absent a TRO prohibiting cycling, it is fair game.
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Old December 4th 18, 07:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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On 04/12/2018 16:32, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 10:13:52 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610


QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists.

What are the chances, eh?


Is there a street view image of the entrance to this 'byway for pedestrians'?
Since it is not beside a carriageway then, absent a TRO prohibiting cycling, it is fair game.


You can easily find it on Google Streetview.

Good luck trying to find a sign encouraging cyclists to negotiate a
flight of concrete stairs, up or down.

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Old December 5th 18, 02:34 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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On 04/12/2018 18:32, JNugent wrote:
On 04/12/2018 16:32, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 10:13:52 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family
try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610

QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists.

What are the chances, eh?


Is there a street view image of the entrance to this 'byway for
pedestrians'?
Since it is not beside a carriageway then, absent a TRO prohibiting
cycling, it is fair game.


You can easily find it on Google Streetview.

Good luck trying to find a sign encouraging cyclists to negotiate a
flight of concrete stairs, up or down.


If you're interested, I think this is it:

/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sJVDkaYo3gQksvl3fwaUeUQ!2e0!7i1 3312!8i6656?hl=en

It looks like the northern end of a footpath (with v=at least one
branch) linking Ranworth Road to Dereham Road.

It's a modern-ish housing estate in a fairly flat part of the country,
but there nevertheless does seem to be quite an incline in the immediate
area. The site treatment reminds me of a place not far from where I was
brought up (all demolished now) where the site sloped so much (with the
effect intensidied by the need to cut terraces for housing) that the
Victorian builders laid out several streets linked to others (at one end
at least) only by steep stone and brick outdoor staircases.
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Old December 5th 18, 09:29 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Jester
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On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:32:10 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 04/12/2018 16:32, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 10:13:52 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610

QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists..

What are the chances, eh?


Is there a street view image of the entrance to this 'byway for pedestrians'?
Since it is not beside a carriageway then, absent a TRO prohibiting cycling, it is fair game.


You can easily find it on Google Streetview.

Good luck trying to find a sign encouraging cyclists to negotiate a
flight of concrete stairs, up or down.


I don't need to find a sign encouraging cyclists to use it, the fact there is no sign prohibiting cyclists from using it is enough.
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Old December 5th 18, 04:25 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_10_]
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On 05/12/2018 08:29, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:32:10 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 04/12/2018 16:32, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 10:13:52 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610

QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists.

What are the chances, eh?

Is there a street view image of the entrance to this 'byway for pedestrians'?
Since it is not beside a carriageway then, absent a TRO prohibiting cycling, it is fair game.


You can easily find it on Google Streetview.

Good luck trying to find a sign encouraging cyclists to negotiate a
flight of concrete stairs, up or down.


I don't need to find a sign encouraging cyclists to use it, the fact there is no sign prohibiting cyclists from using it is enough.


"There's no sign prohibiting me from cycling down this concrete
staircase so I'm going to do it and it's the council's fault ifI am
fatally injured".

OK. But don't take anyone innocent with you while you're doing it.

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Old December 5th 18, 07:27 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Jester
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On Wednesday, December 5, 2018 at 3:25:34 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2018 08:29, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:32:10 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 04/12/2018 16:32, Simon Jester wrote:
On Monday, December 3, 2018 at 10:13:52 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 03/12/2018 21:33, MrCheerful wrote:

****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.** Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-46433610

QUOTE:
"The Loke" is a byway for pedestrians but Mr Warren's father said they
had been told by locals that it was used regularly by cyclists.
ENDQUOTE

Gerraway!

It must be the only pedestrian footway in the country used by cyclists.

What are the chances, eh?

Is there a street view image of the entrance to this 'byway for pedestrians'?
Since it is not beside a carriageway then, absent a TRO prohibiting cycling, it is fair game.

You can easily find it on Google Streetview.

Good luck trying to find a sign encouraging cyclists to negotiate a
flight of concrete stairs, up or down.


I don't need to find a sign encouraging cyclists to use it, the fact there is no sign prohibiting cyclists from using it is enough.


"There's no sign prohibiting me from cycling down this concrete
staircase so I'm going to do it and it's the council's fault ifI am
fatally injured".


Nope, entirely the cyclist's fault.

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Old December 6th 18, 01:20 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
TMS320
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On 05/12/2018 15:25, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2018 08:29, Simon Jester wrote:
On Tuesday, December 4, 2018 at 6:32:10 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:


****ed cyclist on an unlit footpath at midnight, no helmet.
Family try
to blame the council for their ****wit's death from head injuries.


Good luck trying to find a sign encouraging cyclists to negotiate a
flight of concrete stairs, up or down.


I don't need to find a sign encouraging cyclists to use it, the fact
there is no sign prohibiting cyclists from using it is enough.


"There's no sign prohibiting me from cycling down this concrete
staircase so I'm going to do it and it's the council's fault ifI* am
fatally injured".


I expect the way an inquest works is that contributory and mitigating
factors have to mentioned. It doesn't mean that any one tries to "blame"
the council as Cheerless suggested above.

One would expect that anybody attempting to get compensation would be
talked out of it before reaching court. But if it's a poorly designed
cycle facility...

OK. But don't take anyone innocent with you while you're doing it.


That is one very important difference between a drunk cyclist and a
drunk driver.
 




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