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On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:20:39 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:10:20 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Or even more recently: http://velobase.com/Velos/ViewModel....29c20&Enum=201



That's the worst of both worlds -- bonded aluminum and early CF. I shouldn't dis' that bike, though, because someone probably thinks they were the best thing ever made.



-- Jay Beattie.



I have three friends who ride Giant bikes built just like that Trek 2500. Carbon fiber main tubes glued into aluminum lugs and headtube with aluminum chainstays and aluminum seatstays. That is for two of the frames. Third frame is a Giant that also has carbon tube chainstays and seatstays in addition to the main triangles. They all have ridden those Giant frames for decades now. 20 plus years. These guys are not riding them because they cannot afford a new bike. The frames work. And these guys are not into the latest and greatest marketing nonsense for bicycles.

Keeping in mind that these bikes were marketing nonsense in their time, at least according to the steel is real crowd. I had friends who loved Alans. IMO, the large frames rode like noodles. It's all about getting the right bike for the right rider. Small guys can ride basically whatever they want..

- Jay Beattie.

On Thu, 20 Mar 2014 05:50:48 -0700 (PDT), jbeattie
wrote:

On Wednesday, March 19, 2014 12:20:39 PM UTC-7, wrote:
On Tuesday, March 18, 2014 8:10:20 PM UTC-5, jbeattie wrote:

Or even more recently: http://velobase.com/Velos/ViewModel....29c20&Enum=201



That's the worst of both worlds -- bonded aluminum and early CF. I shouldn't dis' that bike, though, because someone probably thinks they were the best thing ever made.



-- Jay Beattie.



I have three friends who ride Giant bikes built just like that Trek 2500. Carbon fiber main tubes glued into aluminum lugs and headtube with aluminum chainstays and aluminum seatstays. That is for two of the frames. Third frame is a Giant that also has carbon tube chainstays and seatstays in addition to the main triangles. They all have ridden those Giant frames for decades now. 20 plus years. These guys are not riding them because they cannot afford a new bike. The frames work. And these guys are not into the latest and greatest marketing nonsense for bicycles.

Keeping in mind that these bikes were marketing nonsense in their time, at least according to the steel is real crowd. I had friends who loved Alans. IMO, the large frames rode like noodles. It's all about getting the right bike for the right rider. Small guys can ride basically whatever they want.

- Jay Beattie.

Well, they build bicycles out of bamboo, why not carbon fiber :-)
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Cheers,

John B.