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combination spanners with different inclinations
On 1/15/2018 5:32 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:36:05 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: Did anyone bother with this for bike mechanics? I just noticed two of my 10mm combination spanners have their open ends in opposite directions. I suppose this is for clearance and so you can do the correct "adjustable spanner" pull, even tho I guess it isn't really necessary as there are no loose parts anymore. For such contortions, I recommend an open end crowfoot wrench: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=open+end+crowfoot+wrench Those are very useful. You can get a set from Harbor Freight. https://www.harborfreight.com/7-piece-3-8-eighth-inch-crowfoot-metric-wrench-set-94427.html |
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combination spanners with different inclinations
On 1/15/2018 5:37 PM, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Mon, 15 Jan 2018 21:45:06 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: ... most of the common 13, 14, and 15mm sockets are to short to get a hold. Use a deep well socket: https://www.google.com/search?q=deep+well+metric+sockets&tbm=isch The 1/4" drive ones are also a good alternative to a set of nut drivers. https://www.harborfreight.com/10-pc-14-in-drive-metric-high-visibility-deep-socket-67874.html |
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combination spanners with different inclinations
On Monday, January 15, 2018 at 9:55:32 PM UTC-8, Jeff Liebermann wrote:
On Tue, 16 Jan 2018 03:51:14 +0100, Emanuel Berg wrote: Jeff Liebermann wrote: For such contortions, I recommend an open end crowfoot wrench: https://www.google.com/search?tbm=isch&q=open+end+crowfoot+wrench Yuk! Looks awful! Well, I could probably find one that's nickel plated. Would that look less awful? I hope I never have to get/use that! Never saw one either so they cannot be that common. Quite common among those who want a very compact tool box. All you need is a ratchet wrench or breaker bar, a small collection of crowfoot wrench ends, and you have something that will work at almost any angle without adding extra pounds to your tool kit in duplicated "handles". They're available in thin wrenches, which are more suitable for bicycle work, like this Park's pedal wrench: https://www.amazon.com/Park-Tool-Pedal-Wrench-Crow/dp/B00JXNZMMQ But in the old days, nobody cared about torque values, and collecting giant wrenches was a right of passage. If you had little crowfoot wrenches, you'd get pantsed by the cool kids. For working on modern bikes, the open-end wrench has gone the way of the dodo. I currently use my old Campagnolo pedal wrench for self defense, although for maximum intimidation, I use my headset press. Spinning the handle hypnotizes my enemies! I was thinking of stringing up all my old headset, BB and pedal wrenches to make a wind chime, but I'd probably need a noise permit. BTW, I was perfectly happy with my old open-ended pedal wrench and just guessing at torque. I hate the modern allen pedals and wrenches. Totally inconvenient! It's like putting the zipper-pull for your fly on the inside of your pants. Stupid! Looser! -- Jay Beattie. |
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combination spanners with different inclinations
jbeattie wrote:
I hate the modern allen pedals and wrenches. Totally inconvenient! Tho I don't "hate" them I prefer the open end wrenches as well. I suppose the torque is a pretty natural function of the length of the shaft. Only if you put it into a pipe, that doesn't apply... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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https://www.tekton.com/flex-ratcheti...SABEgIzBfD_BwE
Eg... 6/10 But but but the several here are not reliable...lube...maybe try a Teflon lock oil |
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30 years ago wandering into the F1 car park at Watkins ... surprised all visible fasteners were allens.
Then afters years of dissassociatiin with no tv ... stunned bt the tv's plastic F1 suspensions ...whoa the left front tore off. Anyone have a miracle lube for ratchet ends or an optimal brand choice ? |
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combination spanners with different inclinations
Jeff Liebermann wrote:
Well, you could also make your own wrenches. The technique would be similar to making your own knife. Buy a bar of heat treatable steel that's the correct thickness: http://www.onlinemetals.com Trim to shape with either a band saw or angle grinder. Refine the shape with an angle grinder, belt sander or hand file. Make a fancy wooden handle in the same manner as a custom knife. Harden and anneal the wrench. Clean up the slag, oil the wooden handle, make YouTube video, and you're done. With programming, one can do a tool which for the specific purpose is superior to anything else in the world, be it commercial or free of charge. (Programming is of course a tool to do just that, but nevertheless.) But with mechanical tools, I don't think I could ever make a tool that is superior to one which I can get cheaply from Crooks"R"Us. And if it would be, the difference wouldn't be one I would notice or one that would motivate all the time spent on it. So the only reason to do it would be so I can be heckled by people dropping smart-ass comments on YouTube, people who most likely themselves never made a single tool! To be able to do your own knives, axes etc. would sure be cool tho, so no disrespect for the skill itself... -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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On 1/17/2018 10:11 PM, Emanuel Berg wrote:
Jeff Liebermann wrote: Well, you could also make your own wrenches. The technique would be similar to making your own knife. Buy a bar of heat treatable steel that's the correct thickness: http://www.onlinemetals.com Trim to shape with either a band saw or angle grinder. Refine the shape with an angle grinder, belt sander or hand file. Make a fancy wooden handle in the same manner as a custom knife. Harden and anneal the wrench. Clean up the slag, oil the wooden handle, make YouTube video, and you're done. But with mechanical tools, I don't think I could ever make a tool that is superior to one which I can get cheaply from Crooks"R"Us. And if it would be, the difference wouldn't be one I would notice or one that would motivate all the time spent on it. It depends. I've certainly made tools. Not to duplicate something I could buy at a store; instead, to get a tool that wasn't available - or at least, not available in a reasonable time. I don't recall having to do this for working on a bicycle, but I've done it several times for other projects. Example: a car I once owned needed a repair to part of the ventilation and air conditioning system. The manual said to pull out the entire dashboard to access the bad part. But an online discussion said a person with small hands could get it out by pulling only the radio. My hands are not small, but I was able to make a simple miniature wrench that could reach the most inaccessible screw. That saved me much trouble and expense. Hmm: A bike-related example! It was very easy to make a super-long screwdriver that allowed me to cannibalize the head from an old Zefal pump. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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Emanuel Berg wrote:
:With programming, one can do a tool which for :the specific purpose is superior to anything :else in the world, be it commercial or free of :charge. (Programming is of course a tool to do :just that, but nevertheless.) :But with mechanical tools, I don't think :I could ever make a tool that is superior to ne which I can get cheaply from Crooks"R"Us. :And if it would be, the difference wouldn't be ne I would notice or one that would motivate :all the time spent on it. You haven't spent much time in a workshop, then. Shop made tools are nearly universal, to solve unique problems that come up in that shop. I've made wrenches to fit stuff (out of bar stock, mostly, but once for a plastic pipe cap, out of plywood), two pin spanner wrenches, countless presses (including some to use on bikes), and all sorts of piece holding fixures or templates. I've modified wrenches (usually grinding them thinner). -- sig 91 |
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David Scheidt wrote:
You haven't spent much time in a workshop, then. No, I have only lived in one for the last 2-3 years... Shop made tools are nearly universal, to solve unique problems that come up in that shop. I've made wrenches to fit stuff (out of bar stock, mostly, but once for a plastic pipe cap, out of plywood), two pin spanner wrenches, countless presses (including some to use on bikes), and all sorts of piece holding fixures or templates. Well, wrenches, pin wrenches, and presses are sure available to buy and not expensive at all. As for "piece holding fixures or templates" I don't know what that refers to but if those are off the market good for you you are able to produce them yourself. I've modified wrenches (usually grinding them thinner). Yes, modifying tools is very common. -- underground experts united http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573 |
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