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Make this your New Year resolution...
Hi there,
Another thread brought up the issue of cyclists failing to speak up in their own interests, especially when local authorities ignore all the 'Best practice' advice they are supposed to follow and so make the roads even more 'cycling unfriendly' then they are already. The important point was made that whilst most LA's have 'Cycle Forums' these are usually regarded by council officers as being 'talking shops' to keep the local cycling zealots quiet and to meet their statutory responsibility to consult. In addition, those dedicated cycle campaigners most people leave campaigning work to are often seen as being unrepresentative of 'normal' cyclists or even just 'nutters', even when those campaigners are doing nothing more then quoting from offical design guidelines. (For example, it seems many LA's actually believe that 'cyclists' want narrow badly surfaced 'cycle paths' where the cyclist has to give way every few metres and that most cyclists have no problems at all with 'pinchpoints' and roundabouts...) What is really needed is more cyclists getting of their backsides and expressing their concerns to LA's and other bodies, perhaps taking the time to find out just what their LA is supposed to be doing, what road schemes are under consideration and so on. Given the way cyclists are being ever more marginalised how about a few more cyclists standing up for themselves and making the resolution that: 'Where I see the interests of cyclists being ignored by central government, local authorities or others, or cyclists unfairly vilified in the press, I will take the time to stand up for my own and other cyclists interests by at least writing to object.' That't it, if every cyclist did this only 3 or 4 times a year we just might have a chance of getting more attention paid to cyclists needs. I am sure plenty of people here are not adverse to wring the odd letter to their MP's but I have no doubt plenty of people don't. Let's heed the words of a speaker at the Mass Cyclists protest held in Hull in 1935, 'only by continually protesting and acting could cyclists maintain their place on the roads of Great Britain'. A happy New Year! |
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"Howard" wrote in message om... Hi there, Another thread brought up the issue of cyclists failing to speak up in their own interests, especially when local authorities ignore all the 'Best practice' advice they are supposed to follow and so make the roads even more 'cycling unfriendly' then they are already. Good idea. I'll write next time I see something that bothers me / would make my life easier if it were done. In fact, I'll write to the manager of the local supermarket and ask why they don't have bikestands (well, they have some wheelbenders loosely bolted into the wall by the cashpoints, but...) Cheers, A |
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On 19/12/03 1:30 pm, in article ,
"Ambrose Nankivell" wrote: In fact, I'll write to the manager of the local supermarket and ask why they don't have bikestands (well, they have some wheelbenders loosely bolted into the wall by the cashpoints, but...) I just wheel the bike straight in and do my shopping using the basket on the front. No one bats an eyelid. ...d |
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In fact, I'll write to the manager of the local supermarket and ask why they don't have bikestands (well, they have some wheelbenders loosely bolted into the wall by the cashpoints, but...) Cheers, Hi there, What supermarket is it? If it is ASDA they are supposed to have adopted a policy of installing Sheffield stands. If the store has been there less the 5 years or so the local authority should, and might well have, made the use of Sheffield stands a condition of the planning consent. I went though all this with a new ASDA store in Hull and eventually got Sheffield stands installed, even though I did have to provide details of the relevant guidelines and even find a supplier. (Hull City Council had made the use of Sheffield stands a condition of the planning consent but brought no real pressure to bear on ASDA when they didn't bother putting them in...) If it is ASDA e-mail me and I will provide the contact details for their specification manager. Good luck! It only too a year for ASDA to sort of the stands I requested! |
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Howard typed: In fact, I'll write to the manager of the local supermarket and ask why they don't have bikestands (well, they have some wheelbenders loosely bolted into the wall by the cashpoints, but...) Cheers, Hi there, What supermarket is it? If it is ASDA they are supposed to have adopted a policy of installing Sheffield stands. If the store has been there less the 5 years or so the local authority should, and might well have, made the use of Sheffield stands a condition of the planning consent. Thanks. I'm afraid it's a Morrison's and it's been there about 10-15 years, I think. I guess it's important to find out what they're obliged to have before writing to the manager, so I'll do so. |
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Thanks. I'm afraid it's a Morrison's and it's been there about 10-15 years,
I think. I guess it's important to find out what they're obliged to have before writing to the manager, so I'll do so. Morrison's in Dereham in Norfolk has *excellent* cycling provision - loads of stands under the eaves of one side of the building, all securely concreted into the ground. Unlike Tesco in Dereham which has a piddling couple of triple stands which are *not* secured to the ground and where a letter to the manager asking for them to be secured to the ground has been ignored. I shall do a follow-up letter post Christmas and if that is also ignored, I shall be permanently taking my custom elsewhere. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove dependency on fame & fortune h*$el*$$e**nd***$o$ts***i*$*$m**m$$o*n**s@$*$a$$o* *l.c**$*$om$$ |
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dirtylitterboxofferingstospammers wrote:
Thanks. I'm afraid it's a Morrison's and it's been there about 10-15 years, I think. I guess it's important to find out what they're obliged to have before writing to the manager, so I'll do so. Morrison's in Dereham in Norfolk has *excellent* cycling provision - loads of stands under the eaves of one side of the building, all securely concreted into the ground. Unlike Tesco in Dereham which has a piddling couple of triple stands which are *not* secured to the ground and where a letter to the manager asking for them to be secured to the ground has been ignored. I shall do a follow-up letter post Christmas and if that is also ignored, I shall be permanently taking my custom elsewhere. This would appear to be standard Tesco policy, Quite often the three slice toast rack is positioned so that only two cycles can use it, instead of the six it is designed for. They certainly can't fit a tandem and trailer in them. We also tried complaining to Tesco (copied to their insurers) about the grannite cobbles they use on the approach road into the car park, as the spaving is such that it will easily trap a 23mm tyre. It was sent as an official letter from the Suffolk CTC, stating that if any of our members had an accident due to these cobbles, then they had been forwarned, and their insurance would probably be invalid. So far we have not had need to claim against them. -- Pete interchange 12 for 21 to reply |
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Pete Whelan wrote:
We also tried complaining to Tesco (copied to their insurers) about the grannite cobbles they use on the approach road into the car park, as the spaving is such that it will easily trap a 23mm tyre. It was sent as an official letter from the Suffolk CTC, stating that if any of our members had an accident due to these cobbles, then they had been forwarned, and their insurance would probably be invalid. So far we have not had need to claim against them. Which is probably fortunate because any claim would probably be met with the counterclaim that you were already well aware they might trap a tyre and therefore riding across them despite that was contributory negligence. Tony |
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Tony Raven wrote:
Pete Whelan wrote: We also tried complaining to Tesco (copied to their insurers) about the grannite cobbles they use on the approach road into the car park, as the spaving is such that it will easily trap a 23mm tyre. It was sent as an official letter from the Suffolk CTC, stating that if any of our members had an accident due to these cobbles, then they had been forwarned, and their insurance would probably be invalid. So far we have not had need to claim against them. Which is probably fortunate because any claim would probably be met with the counterclaim that you were already well aware they might trap a tyre and therefore riding across them despite that was contributory negligence. Tony But first time users wouldn't necessarily be aware of such a problem. Our approach to this kind of problem worked with Sainsburys. We got a copy from their insurance company saying they had a certain period of time to get things in order or they wouldn't be covered. -- Pete interchange 12 for 21 to reply |
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