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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
"Bill" wrote in message
... People may be riding public transport in New York, but around here everybody drives. I'm certainly not going to limit my driving so long as nobody else is doing so. That would really be shooting myself in the foot. Of course, I've reduced my driving due to gas prices, but not because it's politically correct to do so. Forget about the planet, or other people for that matter. What about yourself? You already mentioned that you're saving $$$. Don't you feel better after a ride? Have you ever taken a ride through town in the morning, smelling breakfast, listening to the birds, saying hello to people you come across... things you wouldn't notice while driving, and thinking that life goes by at just the right speed on a bike? And then there are the health benefits from exercise. Sure, it doesn't have to be a bike. You could jog, you could work out at the gym, or you could just jump on your bike and ride. It's kind of a strange reason to not ride a bike because "nobody else" is limiting their driving. That's pushing compliancy with social norms a bit far, and I never really thought of going for a bike ride as rocking the boat. Ride for yourself. Think of the health benefits. Burn calories on a bike ride to make more room for beer & brats! Whatever. And by the way, the American River Bike Trail is worth checking out, if you haven't already. Sacramento is a great town for cycling. Would I post this in rec.cars.misc? No. But this isn't rec.cars.misc. It's rec.bicycles.misc. :-) --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReactionBicycles.com |
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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
Mike, with all due respect, I think you're making several typical smug
cyclist assumptions. I've been riding seriously for 40 years. I ride my bike a lot. The point is, though, that I ride it because I want to, not because some smug liberal tells me I should; not because I want to "save the planet"; and not because "I want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem." OF COURSE |
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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
(Sorry, hit the wrong key and posted before I was done)
On May 28, 9:49*am, Bill wrote: Mike, with all due respect, I think you're making several typical smug cyclist assumptions. I've been riding seriously for 40 years. I ride my bike a lot. The point is, though, that I ride it because I want to, not because some smug liberal tells me I should; not because I want to "save the planet"; and not because "I want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem." You distort my argument through your typical liberal, do-gooder prism when you say I'm "following social norms" by driving. Wrong! I'm simply not following the social norms of the smug liberals who want to tell everybody else how to live. I ride my bike when I want to, and I drive one of my cars when I want to. Nobody tells me which one I should use! OF COURSE I'm familiar with the American River Bike Trail! I'll bet I've ridden on it more than you have. So why would you assume that I'm not familiar with it? Again, Mike, I refer you to the "South Park" episode entitled "Smug Alert". These are the kinds of attitudes that make non-cyclists hate us. You're not better than anyone else just because you ride your bike everywhere, so you really need to dump that irritating attitude. |
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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
"You distort my argument through your typical liberal, do-gooder prism
when you say I'm "following social norms" by driving. Wrong!" Must have been somebody else who said this then- "I'm certainly not going to limit my driving so long as nobody else is doing so." We've all got things we prefer to do over others. You prefer driving a car over cycling. Why make up excuses otherwise? I don't make up excuses that I prefer to ride a bike. You think I'm "smug" about cycling. By your definition we're all "smug" about anything we feel passionate about. I can live with that. --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA "Bill" wrote in message ... (Sorry, hit the wrong key and posted before I was done) On May 28, 9:49 am, Bill wrote: Mike, with all due respect, I think you're making several typical smug cyclist assumptions. I've been riding seriously for 40 years. I ride my bike a lot. The point is, though, that I ride it because I want to, not because some smug liberal tells me I should; not because I want to "save the planet"; and not because "I want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem." You distort my argument through your typical liberal, do-gooder prism when you say I'm "following social norms" by driving. Wrong! I'm simply not following the social norms of the smug liberals who want to tell everybody else how to live. I ride my bike when I want to, and I drive one of my cars when I want to. Nobody tells me which one I should use! OF COURSE I'm familiar with the American River Bike Trail! I'll bet I've ridden on it more than you have. So why would you assume that I'm not familiar with it? Again, Mike, I refer you to the "South Park" episode entitled "Smug Alert". These are the kinds of attitudes that make non-cyclists hate us. You're not better than anyone else just because you ride your bike everywhere, so you really need to dump that irritating attitude. |
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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
I ride it because I want to, not because some smug liberal
tells me I should; not because I want to "save the planet"; and not because "I want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem." =v= Yet somehow you find it so much a problem that you need to conjure up a straw horse ("smug liberal") to sneer at, and repost such sentiments over and over and over. The lady doth protest too much. =v= Introducing the chimera of peeceeness is inherently a move away from saying anything of substance and towards the inane attention to personality traits (imputed and imagined ones, at that). Anyone who introduces the concept into the discussion loses one IQ point. You might have points to spare, as Vice President Quayle once said, "What a waste it is to lose one's mind. Or not to have a mind is being very wasteful. How true that is." _Jym_ |
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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
On 5/28/2011 11:54 AM, Bill Crowell wrote:
(Sorry, hit the wrong key and posted before I was done) On May 28, 9:49�am, wrote: Mike, with all due respect, I think you're making several typical smug cyclist assumptions. I've been riding seriously for 40 years. I ride my bike a lot. The point is, though, that I ride it because I want to, not because some smug liberal tells me I should; not because I want to "save the planet"; and not because "I want to be part of the solution, not part of the problem." You distort my argument through your typical liberal, do-gooder prism when you say I'm "following social norms" by driving. Wrong! I'm simply not following the social norms of the smug liberals who want to tell everybody else how to live. I ride my bike when I want to, and I drive one of my cars when I want to. Nobody tells me which one I should use! OF COURSE I'm familiar with the American River Bike Trail! I'll bet I've ridden on it more than you have. So why would you assume that I'm not familiar with it? Again, Mike, I refer you to the "South Park" episode entitled "Smug Alert". These are the kinds of attitudes that make non-cyclists hate us. You're not better than anyone else just because you ride your bike everywhere, so you really need to dump that irritating attitude. Sheesh, get over yourself, already. -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
You think I'm "smug" about cycling. By your definition
we're all "smug" about anything we feel passionate about. =v= It's pretty sad that one tepidly humorous _South_Park_ episode has provided yet another straw horse distraction for those who want to divert attention to personality traits (real or imagined) from anything of any substance. We now see "smug" used where "peecee" was before, by people under the impression that it's edgy to quote a 5-year-old teevee show that made fun of San Francisco. =v= In truth, the dot-com days had a devastating effect on the socially-concerned population of San Francisco. Housing is mostly only affordable to the likes of corporate lawyers and the financial sector (talk about smug). That episode was an anachronism 5 years before it aired. _Jym_ |
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There's more to riding than being politically-correct
"Sheesh, get over yourself, already."
WTF? You're telling other people how to live their lives, and you want ME to get over it? Wow, the smell of your own fresh farts in the morning must be really intoxicating! "You think I'm "smug" about cycling. By your definition we're all "smug" about anything we feel passionate about." You can feel passionate about something without trying to shove it down other peoples' throats. As a matter of fact, you can even feel passionate about something while keeping your mouth shut! That's what I'd recommend that you do, because the public is sick of hearing your sanctimonious pronouncements, and it is only causing resentment on the part of the public toward your fellow cyclists. Only "true believers" who are insecure in their "passionate" beliefs try to force them on other people like you smug cyclists do. Someone who is emotionally centered and secure in his beliefs does not need to try to force other people to accept them. In brief, you smug cyclists are making the public hate all cyclists. I don't want the public to lump me into the same group you're in. I would like to be able to ride my bike without motorists thinking I am just another smug cycling prick like you guys are, acing all holier- than-thou because you ride a ****ing bicycle. Would you please therefore just STFU? Thank you. |
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Who Is Being Addressed Here?
On 5/28/2011 2:23 PM, Bill Crowell wrote:
"Sheesh, get over yourself, already." WTF? You're telling other people how to live their lives, and you want ME to get over it? Wow, the smell of your own fresh farts in the morning must be really intoxicating! "You think I'm "smug" about cycling. By your definition we're all "smug" about anything we feel passionate about." You can feel passionate about something without trying to shove it down other peoples' throats. As a matter of fact, you can even feel passionate about something while keeping your mouth shut! That's what I'd recommend that you do, because the public is sick of hearing your sanctimonious pronouncements, and it is only causing resentment on the part of the public toward your fellow cyclists. Only "true believers" who are insecure in their "passionate" beliefs try to force them on other people like you smug cyclists do. Someone who is emotionally centered and secure in his beliefs does not need to try to force other people to accept them. In brief, you smug cyclists are making the public hate all cyclists. I don't want the public to lump me into the same group you're in. I would like to be able to ride my bike without motorists thinking I am just another smug cycling prick like you guys are, acing all holier- than-thou because you ride a ****ing bicycle. Would you please therefore just STFU? Thank you. Can we have greater use of indefinite pronouns? -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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