The sweet spot in biking

Roger Zoul wrote:
SlowRider wrote:
:: A normal week for me during the main riding season includes 3-4 rides
:: of 20-30 miles (varying intensity) on weekday evenings, plus a long
:: ride (40-70 miles) on the weekend.

My problem is I can't really count on riding 30 miles during the week. I
did managed to do that back in June, but only because my work schedule
happened to permit that. I'm not sure if I'll be able to count on that next
summer.

Ah ha-a. Did you just identify why your quads get so sore?

:: At the end of the summer I did a 50-mile charity ride. I just went
:: out and had fun -- hammered up some hills, sat back and chatted in a
:: group, hammered up some steeper hills, then went balls-to-the-wall
:: for
:: the last ~15 miles. It was great fun, and I never had a thought
:: about
:: my leg muscles (Ok, maybe on that one long, steep hill with the high
:: winds - yikes). They were a little sore at the end of the day, but
:: the next day I was fine.
::
:: BTW, I should mention that I don't race (too slow for that) -- I'm
:: just a medium-to-old fart who loves to ride.

Yeah, me too. Way too slow to race, and too heavy too. That's what leads
to such a workout for my quads, actually.

Squats. Lunges. Leg presses. They help. Even wusses like
me, so surely they'll help you.

I'm way too slow to race too. I'll be happy if I can keep
with the C-riders. Plenty of folks to ride with in that range.

-km

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the black rose wrote:
|| Roger Zoul wrote:
||| SlowRider wrote:
||||| A normal week for me during the main riding season includes 3-4
||||| rides
||||| of 20-30 miles (varying intensity) on weekday evenings, plus a
||||| long
||||| ride (40-70 miles) on the weekend.
|||
||| My problem is I can't really count on riding 30 miles during the
||| week. I did managed to do that back in June, but only because my
||| work schedule happened to permit that. I'm not sure if I'll be
||| able to count on that next summer.
||
|| Ah ha-a. Did you just identify why your quads get so sore?

Sure.

||
||||| At the end of the summer I did a 50-mile charity ride. I just
||||| went
||||| out and had fun -- hammered up some hills, sat back and chatted
||||| in a group, hammered up some steeper hills, then went
||||| balls-to-the-wall
||||| for
||||| the last ~15 miles. It was great fun, and I never had a thought
||||| about
||||| my leg muscles (Ok, maybe on that one long, steep hill with the
||||| high winds - yikes). They were a little sore at the end of the
||||| day, but
||||| the next day I was fine.
|||||
||||| BTW, I should mention that I don't race (too slow for that) -- I'm
||||| just a medium-to-old fart who loves to ride.
|||
||| Yeah, me too. Way too slow to race, and too heavy too. That's
||| what leads to such a workout for my quads, actually.
||
|| Squats. Lunges. Leg presses. They help. Even wusses like
|| me, so surely they'll help you.

I already do all of that!!! I have been for two years straight.

||
|| I'm way too slow to race too. I'll be happy if I can keep
|| with the C-riders. Plenty of folks to ride with in that range.

I basically ride alone.

||
|| -km
||
|| --
|| Only cowards fight kids -- unidentified Moscow protester
||
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:39:57 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
wrote:

a neat race with incredible tactics. Catch it if you can (Germany
:: Tri). I posted in another thread.

I saw that and I have my buddy on the job

Seems kinda hard to be forced to pass in 12 seconds....depends on what the
other guy is doing.

I was not of the specific. This functionally seems only applied to the
leaders...the pack, (50th and back?? is riding like struggling
guppies...can't blame 'em. You'll see it..

:: (A Postal team member participated in it, but they flash the names
:: times so freakin' fast on those, I couldn't get his name...rider
:: #100, shaved head all-white skinsuit. Made up huge time in the bike
:: leg...couldn't get his final.) The short course race (in Korea was
:: Awesome. Incredible coverage, and everything about it was super
:: exciting (60 minute shows). Best of the series so far)

Did I mention that I saw Hincappie race right here in Greenville SC a few
weeks ago? It was in some pro-level bike race in the Fall For Greenville
Festival. Hincappie won the race and I was standing ride in line with the
finish line when he crossed and put those arms up. That was fun. Every
time the peloton flew by I tried to imagine how I would do in relation to
them. It was sad.

Ppl dont' realize how 'fast' those guys, -and- how fast pro track runners
go. Indoors down by the boards, holy ****e, hold on to your hat fast.

-B
So you're comparing yourself to Hincapie, now, heh.heh.

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:06:44 GMT, the black rose
wrote:

I'm way too slow to race too. I'll be happy if I can keep
with the C-riders. Plenty of folks to ride with in that range.

-km

(aside to Roger: "you -know- she's killin' them C-riders")

Sure, sure. ;-p

-B

On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:33:20 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
wrote:

I basically ride alone.

The, um, Johnny Cash of cycling?

-B

Badger_South wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:33:20 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
wrote:

I basically ride alone.

The, um, Johnny Cash of cycling?

bah. perhaps, but it's true for 99% of my rides, as well. i'd bet there
are a lot of us out there.
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On 26 Oct 2004 00:17:57 GMT, David Reuteler wrote:

Badger_South wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 18:33:20 -0400, "Roger Zoul"

wrote:

I basically ride alone.

The, um, Johnny Cash of cycling?

bah. perhaps, but it's true for 99% of my rides, as well. i'd bet there
are a lot of us out there.

Heh. I'm with you. I do crazy stuff when I am riding by myself and just
take
off on the bike at random. When I leave the house I never know if it will
be
around the block or around 3 counties. Planning? What planning? Sometimes
I will go from the road and take a trail that turns into a wild downhill
cyclocross, other times who knows. Around here I have 13 year old boys
that won't try some of the things I do, so yeah, alone and out of control.
If your heart is beating then you should be having fun.
I don't "Walk the line". Tribute to Johnny. I liked "A boy named Sue", Cash
was great.
Bill Baka


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Badger_South wrote:
|| On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 16:39:57 -0400, "Roger Zoul"
|| wrote:
||
||| a neat race with incredible tactics. Catch it if you can (Germany
||||| Tri). I posted in another thread.
|||
||| I saw that and I have my buddy on the job
|||
||| Seems kinda hard to be forced to pass in 12 seconds....depends on
||| what the other guy is doing.
||
|| I was not of the specific. This functionally seems only applied to
|| the leaders...the pack, (50th and back?? is riding like struggling
|| guppies...can't blame 'em. You'll see it..
||
||||| (A Postal team member participated in it, but they flash the names
||||| times so freakin' fast on those, I couldn't get his name...rider
||||| #100, shaved head all-white skinsuit. Made up huge time in the
||||| bike leg...couldn't get his final.) The short course race (in
||||| Korea was Awesome. Incredible coverage, and everything about it
||||| was super exciting (60 minute shows). Best of the series so far)
|||
||| Did I mention that I saw Hincappie race right here in Greenville SC
||| a few weeks ago? It was in some pro-level bike race in the Fall
||| For Greenville Festival. Hincappie won the race and I was standing
||| ride in line with the finish line when he crossed and put those
||| arms up. That was fun. Every time the peloton flew by I tried to
||| imagine how I would do in relation to them. It was sad.
||
|| Ppl dont' realize how 'fast' those guys, -and- how fast pro track
|| runners go. Indoors down by the boards, holy ****e, hold on to your
|| hat fast.
||
|| -B
|| So you're comparing yourself to Hincapie, now, heh.heh.

Yeah, it's sad, huh.

Badger_South wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:06:44 GMT, the black rose
wrote:


I'm way too slow to race too. I'll be happy if I can keep
with the C-riders. Plenty of folks to ride with in that range.

-km


(aside to Roger: "you -know- she's killin' them C-riders")

Sure, sure. ;-p

Heh. Heh. Heh.

If you buy a CycleOps trainer right now, you get a free CTS
training video in the box. Which one you get appears to be
random (there are 5 -- climbing, MTB, sprinting, criterium,
and time trialing), but I got the one on time trialing.

Heh. Heh. Heh.

Come spring, I'm gonna blow the C-riders outta the water.

Serious aside: it's a GREAT workout. You're too busy
feeling the pain to get bored.

-km

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On Tue, 26 Oct 2004 13:44:45 GMT, the black rose
wrote:

Badger_South wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2004 21:06:44 GMT, the black rose
wrote:


I'm way too slow to race too. I'll be happy if I can keep
with the C-riders. Plenty of folks to ride with in that range.

-km


(aside to Roger: "you -know- she's killin' them C-riders")

Sure, sure. ;-p

Heh. Heh. Heh.

If you buy a CycleOps trainer right now, you get a free CTS
training video in the box. Which one you get appears to be
random (there are 5 -- climbing, MTB, sprinting, criterium,
and time trialing), but I got the one on time trialing.

Heh. Heh. Heh.

Come spring, I'm gonna blow the C-riders outta the water.

Though you come across as gentle and supportive, with great humor. I'm
intuiting that you also have this shark-like intensity, and obvious
bulldog-like persistence and dedication. Plus, brainy! (Linux)

Serious aside: it's a GREAT workout. You're too busy
feeling the pain to get bored.

Pain? What is this 'pain' of which you speak?

Kidding. The feeling, in a group ride, is like this deep intensity, and
strain to concentrate, as you shuttle the tension from system to system,
trying to hold on, looking for places to relax, and then trying to push in
surges.

-km

-B