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The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- WhyOff-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited
On 7/13/2003 6:18 PM, jazu wrote: "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message ... The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited Michael J. Vandeman, Ph.D. May 31, 1997 Best solution for all of these kind of problems. Let's go back to the caves. Do you really believe that a Ph.D would end all his rebuttals with "DUH!" ? Nope, me either. An 8-year-old troll, perhaps... Let's just put this self-righteous asshole in our killfiles and move on to bigger and better things -- time to get the signal-to-noise ratio in this noisegroup back up to decent levels. Pablo |
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The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 16:31:50 -0800, Pablo Ricardo
wrote: .. .. ..On 7/13/2003 6:18 PM, jazu wrote: .. .. "Mike Vandeman" wrote in message .. ... .. .. The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- .. Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited .. Michael J. Vandeman, Ph.D. .. May 31, 1997 .. .. .. Best solution for all of these kind of problems. .. Let's go back to the caves. .. .. .. ..Do you really believe that a Ph.D would end all his rebuttals with "DUH!" ? .. ..Nope, me either. An 8-year-old troll, perhaps... .. ..Let's just put this self-righteous asshole in our killfiles and move on ..to bigger and better things -- time to get the signal-to-noise ratio in ..this noisegroup back up to decent levels. Impossible, since you are starting below zero. Mountain bikers are afraid to tell the truth, because then their peers will gang-bang them. ..Pablo === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited
Doug Haxton says:
By the way...every time you say "Duh", it makes you look even more moronic. And every time somoeone replies to that, it makes him feel even more intelligent and effective. Just a helpful hint....... |
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The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited
On 10 Aug 2003 12:24:05 GMT, ospam (Stephen Baker) wrote:
..Doug Haxton says: .. ..By the way...every time you say "Duh", it makes you look even more ..moronic. .. .. ..And every time somoeone replies to that, it makes him feel even more ..intelligent and effective. .. ..Just a helpful hint....... So why aren't you able to follow your own advice, hypocrite? === I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to humans ("pure habitat"). Want to help? (I spent the previous 8 years fighting auto dependence and road construction.) http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande |
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The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited
Jim Roberts wrote:
Oh we are back to Tanks in the Backcountry. jimbat Doug Haxton wrote: On Sun, 10 Aug 2003 04:52:43 GMT, Mike Vandeman wrote: .1) If the quote accurate ("They aren't human, so they don't have .rights. QED") then you're contradicting yourself. Is it accurate? Yes. I was talking about BICYCLES. Can't you think at all????? I was simply asking a polite question. Can't you respond in kind at all????? .2) Why does wildlife have a "right" to kill each other? What's the .enforcement mechanism for this right? They are able to do it. DUH! Humans are able to kill wild animals as well. By your own logic we have therefore have the right to kill them. By the way...every time you say "Duh", it makes you look even more moronic. Just a helpful hint. Doug Let's say all of the land presently used for outdoor recreation is closed to all use. What will happen to that land? Well, if no one can use it and enjoy the "natural" place that it is, people will forget why we need to save these areas and end up not caring about saving other wild places. I believe outdoor recreation is a mojor contributor to the saving of many areas from development. Hunters, hikers, mountain bikers, climbers, rafters, on and on. Ducks Unlimited has saved more acres than any so called environmental group ever has. Why, because they use and enjoy the land. ( from "Comming out of the Woods" by Wallace Kaufman) I'll admit I didn't read all of this guy's long winded posts but of the ones I did read I didn't see any mention of where he got his "scientific" evidence from. Just my $.02 worth.----------Dave -- Come ride in West Virginia! -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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The Effects of Mountain Biking on Wildlife and People -- Why Off-Road Bicycling Should be Prohibited
Wow. I wish I could be some hypocritical environazi. Makes sense that we
have vast tracts of land no one is allowed to use. You, by the way, wouldn't be interested in growing "hemp" now would you guys? I hear there's plenty of nasty gases in the smoke you puff out regularly, or is that a lie? Go set another forest service building on fire, avoid another shower, get some more federal money for your foodstamps, move (back) in with your parents and get offended when someone doesn't appreciate your intolerance and then cry fowl yourself. How do the emperor's new clothes look to you? Don't bother trying to impress us by saying you have advanced degrees in blah, blah, blah. A lot of us went to grad school and understand where you are really coming from. See you on the trail. Oh yeah, get a tune up on your Volvo wagon, it seems to be smoking more than it was designed to. K. -- Don't give up, don't ever give up. -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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