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OK, how about separated bike lanes?
On Aug 2, 11:34 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
wrote: Besides, if "separate but equal" is the law of the land in many areas, particularly applied to those who live beyond walled communities, I don't see why it should apply to bikes and SUVs. They do NOT mix, just as lions and monkeys. Some of the monkeys (ok, apes) learned to walk upright and used their now free forelimbs to make and hold weapons. The lions learned to stay well away from these otherwise slow and weak creatures.\ The lions learned to wait until the monkeys killed each other for them to have a good lunch. Yep, lions are scavengers too! |
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OK, how about separated bike lanes?
On Aug 3, 12:56 pm, Marz wrote:
On Aug 3, 10:16 am, donquijote1954 wrote: On Aug 2, 6:09 pm, Martin Dann wrote: As I don't live in the USA, I Maybe that's why you don't understand what's going on here. Slower vehicles don't have to drive on the right at all, nor should drivers pay be paying attention to driving, simply you get these SUV behemoths whistling past you that leave you shaking in your commitment to ride anymore. What?? Please explain what you mean by saying,'nor should drivers pay be paying attention to driving.' Because most drivers (in the US) I see are paying attention to the road. I ride most days along side SUV behemoths here in Texas and they've not put me or any of my friends off riding. Maybe it's how you ride that's causing you too many close encounters with other road users. They simply are NOT paying attention to a large extent. If you are on the cell phone you are NOT paying any more attention than if you had a six pack of beer. And tell MADD that's a good thing. |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
"Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote in message .. . Joe the Aroma WHO? wrote: "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote in message oups.com... However, I stand by my statement that the free-market has failed, since there is no real free-market health care system in the US. Seeing as it's never really been tried, except perhaps many moons ago when health care was nowhere near as complex and expensive as it is now, I think it's hasty to make that conclusion. My point exactly. The FREE MARKET is failing to provide free market health care in the U.S. Mr. Sherman is quite corred on this matter of health care in the US. The present system is broken and cannot be fixed except by a single payer system (the government). Such a health care system will be like the public school system. It is not socialism, but simply good common sense. It ought to be financed via higher progressive income taxes on the rich and/or a value added tax on those who like to spend money on luxuries. A total no-brainer! Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
On Aug 4, 11:16 am, wrote:
Sidewalk cycling IS more dangerous than roadway cycling. Pretending that people will do it only in one direction is specious, and pretending they won't be at risk if they do is worse. Note, I'm not saying that nobody should ever ride on a sidewalk. There are times and places where it may make sense, and there are times and places where it can be done safely. But whitewashing the situation, pretending all the risk comes from riding the wrong-way, ignores the real dangers: cars cutting across sidewalks at driveways and parking lots, numerous blind spots, sidewalk edges that trap wheels, pedestrians & joggers & dogs with their random movements, sub- standard or dangerous pavement, interactions with surprised motorists when the cyclist crosses a road, etc. If a cyclist plans to use a sidewalk, even for fifty feet, they need to be aware of all of those things, and be on high alert. But the common thinking is "I'm just on the sidewalk; I'm safe." That's a delusion, and your posts purposely contribute toward that delusion. Fact is, you're so intent on gaining imaginary "arguing" points that you're willing to distort facts, spread misinformation, and endanger novices who read your posts. Those novices need to be warned against you. OK, with such a motivation (warning the novices against you), I ask you (I hope there are many witnesses out there), WHAT THE HELL IS THE SOLUTION, so we can go from 1% to, say, 30% ridership? Or you believe yourself to be among a supreme elite smart enough to ride a bike among traffic while the stupid 99% stay away from it? JUST ANSWER! Or just admit you've riding a stationary bike! |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
donquijote1954 who? wrote:
... OK, with such a motivation (warning the novices against you), I ask you (I hope there are many witnesses out there), WHAT THE HELL IS THE SOLUTION, so we can go from 1% to, say, 30% ridership?... Google "Hubbert's Peak. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
On Aug 4, 10:23 am, still me wrote:
On Fri, 3 Aug 2007 23:47:15 -0500, "Edward Dolan" wrote: Such a health care system will be like the public school system. It is not socialism, but simply good common sense. It ought to be financed via higher progressive income taxes on the rich and/or a value added tax on those who like to spend money on luxuries. A total no-brainer! Funny, I've come to think that Health Care is a luxury in the USA. I think it's more like WE CAN'T AFFORD THE LUXURY TO GET SICK. Other luxuries we can probably afford, well at least with a good credit. |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
On Aug 4, 2:15 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman"
wrote: donquijote1954 who? wrote: ... OK, with such a motivation (warning the novices against you), I ask you (I hope there are many witnesses out there), WHAT THE HELL IS THE SOLUTION, so we can go from 1% to, say, 30% ridership?... Google "Hubbert's Peak. Oil production peak... It's gonna be fun to be alive and watch the couch potatos finally pedalling when things finally start going down hill (it'll be up hill for them though). I don't see much prevention in practice, particularly when bicycles are mostly banned from the dangerous roads --banned by fear, that is. |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
donquijote1954 who? wrote:
On Aug 4, 2:15 pm, "Tom \"Johnny Sunset\" Sherman" wrote: donquijote1954 who? wrote: ... OK, with such a motivation (warning the novices against you), I ask you (I hope there are many witnesses out there), WHAT THE HELL IS THE SOLUTION, so we can go from 1% to, say, 30% ridership?... Google "Hubbert's Peak. Oil production peak... It's gonna be fun to be alive and watch the couch potatos finally pedalling when things finally start going down hill (it'll be up hill for them though). I don't see much prevention in practice, particularly when bicycles are mostly banned from the dangerous roads --banned by fear, that is. How about stopping all the fear-mongering about how dangerous cycling is and the related promotion of h*lm*ts and segregated facilities? Chicken Little was wrong about the sky falling, and you are wrong about the true danger of cycling. -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
However, I stand by my statement that the free-market has failed,
since there is no real free-market health care system in the US. "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote Seeing as it's never really been tried, except perhaps many moons ago when health care was nowhere near as complex and expensive as it is now, Joe the Aroma WHO? wrote: I think it's hasty to make that conclusion. "Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote My point exactly. The FREE MARKET is failing to provide free market health care in the U.S. Edward Dolan wrote: Mr. Sherman is quite corred on this matter of health care in the US. The present system is broken and cannot be fixed except by a single payer system (the government). Such a health care system will be like the public school system. It is not socialism, but simply good common sense. It ought to be financed via higher progressive income taxes on the rich and/or a value added tax on those who like to spend money on luxuries. A total no-brainer! You have obviously not thought that through to its logical conclusion -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
Andrew Muzi wrote:
However, I stand by my statement that the free-market has failed, since there is no real free-market health care system in the US. "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote Seeing as it's never really been tried, except perhaps many moons ago when health care was nowhere near as complex and expensive as it is now, Joe the Aroma WHO? wrote: I think it's hasty to make that conclusion. "Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote My point exactly. The FREE MARKET is failing to provide free market health care in the U.S. Edward Dolan wrote: Mr. Sherman is quite corred on this matter of health care in the US. The present system is broken and cannot be fixed except by a single payer system (the government). Such a health care system will be like the public school system. It is not socialism, but simply good common sense. It ought to be financed via higher progressive income taxes on the rich and/or a value added tax on those who like to spend money on luxuries. A total no-brainer! You have obviously not thought that through to its logical conclusion My logical conclusion was that I could not afford to get treatment for a chronic health problem, since my portion of the expenses was more than my discretionary income - and yes, I am "covered" under a employer provided "health plan". I really need to start trying to get a job in Canada. More than 50% of recent personal bankruptcies in the US are from people who got sick, lost their jobs and/or health coverage or exceeded the coverage limits, and exhausted their financial assets on medical bills. Great system, eh? -- Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia The weather is here, wish you were beautiful -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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