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What’s smug and deserves to be decapitated?
Matthew Parris 2007 also in "The Times"
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What’s smug and deserves to be decapitated?
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:16:45 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote:
Matthew Parris 2007 also in "The Times" Also Rod Liddle is now at it. https://road.cc/content/news/liddle-...yclists-273749 |
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Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:16:45 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote: Matthew Parris 2007 also in "The Times" Also Rod Liddle is now at it. https://road.cc/content/news/liddle-...yclists-273749 Rod Liddle has to be a real second rater, though. It was well over a decade ago that Matthew Parris wrote 'the most complained about story of the year'. His article in The Times in which he suggested piano wire should be strung across country lanes to decapitate cyclists prompted almost 600 protests to the Press Complaints Commission. And this, apparently, because he felt cyclists needed to be punished for supposedly littering the countryside with plastic drinks bottles. Anyway, at the time, The Commission replied that the article had not breached its Code of Practice, but it was pleased Mr Parris had apologised for his comments. Then, last Sunday, we get Sunday Times columnist Rod Liddle saying he finds it 'tempting' to stretch piano wire across the road to target cyclists. There's no way he could have been unaware of the controversy Matthew Paris caused when he said the same thing. It's just plain and simple copy-cat trolling. Maybe the jurno Rod Liddle should start reading ukrc and learn how proper 'players' set about their game. Then try and see if he can come up with something original for his Sunday Times column. |
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On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:24:47 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
And this, apparently, because he felt cyclists needed to be punished for supposedly littering the countryside with plastic drinks bottles. The same cyclists that also lob McDonalds bags, KFC trays, Monster energy drinks, fag packets, empty Stella cans, crisp packets, chocolate bar wrappers, Red Bull cans and fast food detritus out of their drivers' windows? |
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On 27/05/2020 21:24, Kelly wrote:
Simon Mason wrote: On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:16:45 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote: Matthew Parris 2007 also in "The Times" Also Rod Liddle is now at it. https://road.cc/content/news/liddle-...yclists-273749 Rod Liddle has to be a real second rater, though. It was well over a decade ago that Matthew Parris wrote 'the most complained about story of the year'. His article in The Times in which he suggested piano wire should be strung across country lanes to decapitate cyclists prompted almost 600 protests to the Press Complaints Commission. And this, apparently, because he felt cyclists needed to be punished for supposedly littering the countryside with plastic drinks bottles. Anyway, at the time, The Commission replied that the article had not breached its Code of Practice, but it was pleased Mr Parris had apologised for his comments. Then, last Sunday, we get Sunday Times columnist Rod Liddle saying he finds it 'tempting' to stretch piano wire across the road to target cyclists. There's no way he could have been unaware of the controversy Matthew Paris caused when he said the same thing. It's just plain and simple copy-cat trolling. Maybe the jurno Rod Liddle should start reading ukrc and learn how proper 'players' set about their game. Then try and see if he can come up with something original for his Sunday Times column. Serious question: would you rather people didn't tell the truthwhen expressing their opinions so that cyclists could remain unaware of the opprobrium in which they are held by a significant proportion of the population? |
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Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:24:47 PM UTC+1, Kelly wrote: And this, apparently, because he felt cyclists needed to be punished for supposedly littering the countryside with plastic drinks bottles. The same cyclists that also lob McDonalds bags, KFC trays, Monster energy drinks, fag packets, empty Stella cans, crisp packets, chocolate bar wrappers, Red Bull cans and fast food detritus out of their drivers' windows? Cyclists are a minority group that still remain an easy target for just about anyone. Quote: .... cyclists – the one heterogeneous, harmless minority who it is seemingly still fine to denigrate, dismiss and generally invent facts about. Unquote https://www.theguardian.com/environm...ok-to-demonise |
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JNugent wrote:
On 27/05/2020 21:24, Kelly wrote: Simon Mason wrote: On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:16:45 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote: Matthew Parris 2007 also in "The Times" Also Rod Liddle is now at it. https://road.cc/content/news/liddle-...yclists-273749 Rod Liddle has to be a real second rater, though. It was well over a decade ago that Matthew Parris wrote 'the most complained about story of the year'. His article in The Times in which he suggested piano wire should be strung across country lanes to decapitate cyclists prompted almost 600 protests to the Press Complaints Commission. And this, apparently, because he felt cyclists needed to be punished for supposedly littering the countryside with plastic drinks bottles. Anyway, at the time, The Commission replied that the article had not breached its Code of Practice, but it was pleased Mr Parris had apologised for his comments. Then, last Sunday, we get Sunday Times columnist Rod Liddle saying he finds it 'tempting' to stretch piano wire across the road to target cyclists. There's no way he could have been unaware of the controversy Matthew Paris caused when he said the same thing. It's just plain and simple copy-cat trolling. Maybe the jurno Rod Liddle should start reading ukrc and learn how proper 'players' set about their game. Then try and see if he can come up with something original for his Sunday Times column. Serious question: would you rather people didn't tell the truthwhen expressing their opinions so that cyclists could remain unaware of the opprobrium in which they are held by a significant proportion of the population? No, I am only too glad to hear the truth from people - as they see it. But does that mean, for example, that Matthew Parris really wants to see cyclists who litter plastic bottles punished by being decapitated, as he suggested? I don't think so. Nor do I think Rod Liddle would truly consider tying 'piano wire at neck height' to prevent a middle-class city family from cycling along the pavement outside his house. That doesn't stop them, however, from stating the opposite in their paper columns. So what they are printing is not exactly the truth, is it? This just has to be part of a game they are playing. Isn't it the same game being played on ukrc? The same game that has been played for many a year? Each opposing side has players exaggerating their positions usually giving some consideration as to the extent they believe their antagonists are exaggerating their positions? I imagine this is merely individuals levelling out the playing field, in their respective views. I don't see anything particularly wrong with this. No one is obliged to take part, it's a free choice, anyone can chose to participate or not. It is difficult, though, impossible more like, to get a dispassionate discussion going because virtually each player is reluctant to lose ground against their adversaries, some of whom they know are going to hang on to the ground they hold come what may. There you go, play the game by all means. If anything it's an enthrallment - a curious, discordant blend of light and heat, as the expression goes. |
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On 27/05/2020 11:13, Simon Mason wrote:
On Wednesday, May 27, 2020 at 9:16:45 AM UTC+1, colwyn wrote: Matthew Parris 2007 also in "The Times" Also Rod Liddle is now at it. https://road.cc/content/news/liddle-...yclists-273749 Very considered letter by Ned Boulting Twitter thread: https://twitter.com/nedboulting/stat...84694151032832 |
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On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 8:40:24 AM UTC+1, Kelly wrote:
.. And this, apparently, because he felt cyclists needed to be punished for supposedly littering the countryside with plastic drinks bottles. Cyclists use reusable bidons and do not throw them away. Look at the vast amount of litter on motorways and you will see the real culprits. Also, look at the current fly tipping epidemic. How can a cyclist carry a toilet or old sofa? |
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On 28/05/2020 10:39, Simon Mason wrote:
On Thursday, May 28, 2020 at 8:40:24 AM UTC+1, Kelly wrote: . And this, apparently, because he felt cyclists needed to be punished for supposedly littering the countryside with plastic drinks bottles. Cyclists use reusable bidons and do not throw them away. Look at the vast amount of litter on motorways and you will see the real culprits. Also, look at the current fly tipping epidemic. How can a cyclist carry a toilet or old sofa? https://twitter.com/hackneycyclist/s...671488?lang=en |
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