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Driver pulls out without looking
On 30/11/2018 21:14, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 12:52:58 AM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:17:29 PM UTC, wrote: On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote: Top man! I have to disagree. The cyclist clearly knew the driver and did a double take when he realised who it was he was cycling past. It looks like a personal vendetta or a gang related feud. The cyclist victim of the cowardly hit and run has left the court a free man! Drinks all round, well done that judge. :-) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OIDS-jail.html When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. QUOTE: A cyclist thug who pulled out a huge 'zombie knife' and began smashing a car window in a terrifying road rage attack was today spared jail, sparking fury. Shocking dashcam footage showed Joshua Gardner, 18, brandishing the enormous blade on a busy south London road before repeatedly slashing at the car and threatening its 19-year-old driver, who got out and ran away. But an Old Bailey judge told Gardner he would only be given a suspended sentence because he was wielding the knife after a ten-day kidnap ordeal in which he was held at gunpoint. ENDQUOTE QUOTE 2: The decision sparked fury, with serving Greater Manchester Police officer 'Sgt K' tweeting that he had been left 'speechless'. ENDQUOTE A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). You think John Sainsbury should be executed for selling water, sugar and caffeine to the public? Which of those things are classified illegal drugs? |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On 30/11/2018 13:08, JNugent wrote:
On 30/11/2018 13:02, TMS320 wrote: On 30/11/2018 10:35, JNugent wrote: On 30/11/2018 10:02, TMS320 wrote: On 30/11/2018 00:52, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. ... A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the Â*attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). ... Irrelevant to uk.rec.cycling Have you not seen the video? Yes. The case is irrelevant to uk.rec.cycling I'm inclined to tentatively agree with that in a strict sense. However, replies to the (irrelevant) OP are not irrelevant, for obvious reasons. I was replying to you. And in general, I agree with what SimonJ said above. At first sight the case may have seemed relevant. But now the dust has settled it turns out it has nothing to do with the behaviour of road users - "cyclists" or "motorists". You might agree or disagree with the outcome of the court case. You might have an opinion on the way society appears to be changing. OT for this group. |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On 01/12/2018 11:36, TMS320 wrote:
On 30/11/2018 13:08, JNugent wrote: On 30/11/2018 13:02, TMS320 wrote: On 30/11/2018 10:35, JNugent wrote: On 30/11/2018 10:02, TMS320 wrote: On 30/11/2018 00:52, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. ... A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the Â*attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). ... Irrelevant to uk.rec.cycling Have you not seen the video? Yes. The case is irrelevant to uk.rec.cycling I'm inclined to tentatively agree with that in a strict sense. However, replies to the (irrelevant) OP are not irrelevant, for obvious reasons. I was replying to you. And in general, I agree with what SimonJ said above. At first sight the case may have seemed relevant. But now the dust has settled it turns out it has nothing to do with the behaviour of road users - "cyclists" or "motorists". That is also how it looked to me on first seeing the video. You might agree or disagree with the outcome of the court case. You might have an opinion on the way society appears to be changing. OT for this group. I only disagree with the sentence and with any assertions to the effect that ithreally ad anything to do with cycling, which it plainly did not. But remarks had been made here by the OP cyclist (to the implied effect that it is acceptable for cyclists to carry grossly offensove weapons and to attempt to do serious harm to others with such weapons in consequence of traffic accidents) and were capable of being addressed for that reason. |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 11:31:55 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 30/11/2018 21:14, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 12:52:58 AM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:17:29 PM UTC, wrote: On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote: Top man! I have to disagree. The cyclist clearly knew the driver and did a double take when he realised who it was he was cycling past. It looks like a personal vendetta or a gang related feud. The cyclist victim of the cowardly hit and run has left the court a free man! Drinks all round, well done that judge. :-) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OIDS-jail.html When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. QUOTE: A cyclist thug who pulled out a huge 'zombie knife' and began smashing a car window in a terrifying road rage attack was today spared jail, sparking fury. Shocking dashcam footage showed Joshua Gardner, 18, brandishing the enormous blade on a busy south London road before repeatedly slashing at the car and threatening its 19-year-old driver, who got out and ran away. But an Old Bailey judge told Gardner he would only be given a suspended sentence because he was wielding the knife after a ten-day kidnap ordeal in which he was held at gunpoint. ENDQUOTE QUOTE 2: The decision sparked fury, with serving Greater Manchester Police officer 'Sgt K' tweeting that he had been left 'speechless'. ENDQUOTE A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). You think John Sainsbury should be executed for selling water, sugar and caffeine to the public? Which of those things are classified illegal drugs? You did not specify 'illegal' drug dealer, only drug dealer. If tobacco was discovered tomorrow and tested for fitness for human consumption it would be banned, as would alcohol. More people have died from water overdose than certain naturally growing herbs that are deemed illegal by the users of said herbs. |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 11:31:55 PM UTC, JNugent wrote:
On 30/11/2018 21:14, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 12:52:58 AM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:17:29 PM UTC, wrote: On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote: Top man! I have to disagree. The cyclist clearly knew the driver and did a double take when he realised who it was he was cycling past. It looks like a personal vendetta or a gang related feud. The cyclist victim of the cowardly hit and run has left the court a free man! Drinks all round, well done that judge. :-) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OIDS-jail.html When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. QUOTE: A cyclist thug who pulled out a huge 'zombie knife' and began smashing a car window in a terrifying road rage attack was today spared jail, sparking fury. Shocking dashcam footage showed Joshua Gardner, 18, brandishing the enormous blade on a busy south London road before repeatedly slashing at the car and threatening its 19-year-old driver, who got out and ran away. But an Old Bailey judge told Gardner he would only be given a suspended sentence because he was wielding the knife after a ten-day kidnap ordeal in which he was held at gunpoint. ENDQUOTE QUOTE 2: The decision sparked fury, with serving Greater Manchester Police officer 'Sgt K' tweeting that he had been left 'speechless'. ENDQUOTE A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). You think John Sainsbury should be executed for selling water, sugar and caffeine to the public? Which of those things are classified illegal drugs? JS also sell potatoes and barley from which poitin can be, illegally, made. Actually anyone can buy a pot still and illegally distill their own spirits so why are cannabis seedlings illegal? The difference is if you get the temperature wrong with a still you go blind from the methanol, cannabis plants simply die. |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On 01/12/2018 16:12, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 11:31:55 PM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 30/11/2018 21:14, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 12:52:58 AM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:17:29 PM UTC, wrote: On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote: Top man! I have to disagree. The cyclist clearly knew the driver and did a double take when he realised who it was he was cycling past. It looks like a personal vendetta or a gang related feud. The cyclist victim of the cowardly hit and run has left the court a free man! Drinks all round, well done that judge. :-) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OIDS-jail.html When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. QUOTE: A cyclist thug who pulled out a huge 'zombie knife' and began smashing a car window in a terrifying road rage attack was today spared jail, sparking fury. Shocking dashcam footage showed Joshua Gardner, 18, brandishing the enormous blade on a busy south London road before repeatedly slashing at the car and threatening its 19-year-old driver, who got out and ran away. But an Old Bailey judge told Gardner he would only be given a suspended sentence because he was wielding the knife after a ten-day kidnap ordeal in which he was held at gunpoint. ENDQUOTE QUOTE 2: The decision sparked fury, with serving Greater Manchester Police officer 'Sgt K' tweeting that he had been left 'speechless'. ENDQUOTE A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). You think John Sainsbury should be executed for selling water, sugar and caffeine to the public? Which of those things are classified illegal drugs? JS also sell potatoes and barley from which poitin can be, illegally, made. Actually anyone can buy a pot still and illegally distill their own spirits so why are cannabis seedlings illegal? The difference is if you get the temperature wrong with a still you go blind from the methanol, cannabis plants simply die. Countries all over the world are starting to teach the ignorant that cannabis is not only one of the most versatile drugs, but a far safer alternative to drink for recreational use. You don't get violent fights with cannabis use. A&E depts dread the weekend when hoardes of drunks get brought in to get patched up from mindless fighting. -- Bod |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 4:12:55 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote:
JS also sell potatoes and barley from which poitin can be, illegally, made. Peter Hucker distills his own vodka, IIRC. |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On Saturday, December 1, 2018 at 4:32:21 PM UTC, Bod wrote:
On 01/12/2018 16:12, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 11:31:55 PM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 30/11/2018 21:14, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 12:52:58 AM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:17:29 PM UTC, wrote: On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote: Top man! I have to disagree. The cyclist clearly knew the driver and did a double take when he realised who it was he was cycling past. It looks like a personal vendetta or a gang related feud. The cyclist victim of the cowardly hit and run has left the court a free man! Drinks all round, well done that judge. :-) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OIDS-jail.html When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. QUOTE: A cyclist thug who pulled out a huge 'zombie knife' and began smashing a car window in a terrifying road rage attack was today spared jail, sparking fury. Shocking dashcam footage showed Joshua Gardner, 18, brandishing the enormous blade on a busy south London road before repeatedly slashing at the car and threatening its 19-year-old driver, who got out and ran away. But an Old Bailey judge told Gardner he would only be given a suspended sentence because he was wielding the knife after a ten-day kidnap ordeal in which he was held at gunpoint. ENDQUOTE QUOTE 2: The decision sparked fury, with serving Greater Manchester Police officer 'Sgt K' tweeting that he had been left 'speechless'. ENDQUOTE A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). You think John Sainsbury should be executed for selling water, sugar and caffeine to the public? Which of those things are classified illegal drugs? JS also sell potatoes and barley from which poitin can be, illegally, made. Actually anyone can buy a pot still and illegally distill their own spirits so why are cannabis seedlings illegal? The difference is if you get the temperature wrong with a still you go blind from the methanol, cannabis plants simply die. Countries all over the world are starting to teach the ignorant that cannabis is not only one of the most versatile drugs, but a far safer alternative to drink for recreational use. You don't get violent fights with cannabis use. A&E depts dread the weekend when hoardes of drunks get brought in to get patched up from mindless fighting. -- Bod The thing is Nugent is proposing executing people for this. He thinks we should take a human out of their prison cell, march them down the corridor, put them in a room and snuff out their life for possessing Vodka. |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On 01/12/2018 14:17, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 11:31:55 PM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 30/11/2018 21:14, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 12:52:58 AM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:17:29 PM UTC, wrote: On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote: Top man! I have to disagree. The cyclist clearly knew the driver and did a double take when he realised who it was he was cycling past. It looks like a personal vendetta or a gang related feud. The cyclist victim of the cowardly hit and run has left the court a free man! Drinks all round, well done that judge. :-) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OIDS-jail.html When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. QUOTE: A cyclist thug who pulled out a huge 'zombie knife' and began smashing a car window in a terrifying road rage attack was today spared jail, sparking fury. Shocking dashcam footage showed Joshua Gardner, 18, brandishing the enormous blade on a busy south London road before repeatedly slashing at the car and threatening its 19-year-old driver, who got out and ran away. But an Old Bailey judge told Gardner he would only be given a suspended sentence because he was wielding the knife after a ten-day kidnap ordeal in which he was held at gunpoint. ENDQUOTE QUOTE 2: The decision sparked fury, with serving Greater Manchester Police officer 'Sgt K' tweeting that he had been left 'speechless'. ENDQUOTE A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). You think John Sainsbury should be executed for selling water, sugar and caffeine to the public? Which of those things are classified illegal drugs? You did not specify 'illegal' drug dealer, only drug dealer. Why would punishment of any sort be an issue in respect of activities which are not illegal? Wake up... If tobacco was discovered tomorrow and tested for fitness for human consumption it would be banned, as would alcohol. More people have died from water overdose than certain naturally growing herbs that are deemed illegal by the users of said herbs. Don't tell me. Tell your MP. Let him or her have a laugh with their secretary about you after you've gone. |
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Driver pulls out without looking
On 01/12/2018 16:12, Simon Jester wrote:
On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 11:31:55 PM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 30/11/2018 21:14, Simon Jester wrote: On Friday, November 30, 2018 at 12:52:58 AM UTC, JNugent wrote: On 27/11/2018 20:05, Simon Jester wrote: On Tuesday, November 27, 2018 at 7:17:29 PM UTC, wrote: On Sunday, November 25, 2018 at 12:56:28 PM UTC, Simon Jester wrote: Top man! I have to disagree. The cyclist clearly knew the driver and did a double take when he realised who it was he was cycling past. It looks like a personal vendetta or a gang related feud. The cyclist victim of the cowardly hit and run has left the court a free man! Drinks all round, well done that judge. :-) https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...OIDS-jail.html When cyclists are involved inconvenient things like facts don't matter to nugents. QUOTE: A cyclist thug who pulled out a huge 'zombie knife' and began smashing a car window in a terrifying road rage attack was today spared jail, sparking fury. Shocking dashcam footage showed Joshua Gardner, 18, brandishing the enormous blade on a busy south London road before repeatedly slashing at the car and threatening its 19-year-old driver, who got out and ran away. But an Old Bailey judge told Gardner he would only be given a suspended sentence because he was wielding the knife after a ten-day kidnap ordeal in which he was held at gunpoint. ENDQUOTE QUOTE 2: The decision sparked fury, with serving Greater Manchester Police officer 'Sgt K' tweeting that he had been left 'speechless'. ENDQUOTE A (two year) suspended sentence for attacking someone (or making the attempt as best he could) with an offensive weapon like that? Even if the intended victim *was* a drug dealer who had kidnapped the assailant on a previous occasion, we don't have capital punishment fordrug-dealing (though maybe we ought to). You think John Sainsbury should be executed for selling water, sugar and caffeine to the public? Which of those things are classified illegal drugs? JS also sell potatoes and barley from which poitin can be, illegally, made. Actually anyone can buy a pot still and illegally distill their own spirits so why are cannabis seedlings illegal? Have you thought of asking your MP? They can write to the Home Office and get a standard cut'n'pasted reply written a junior civil servant, but signed by a junior minister, for you. The difference is if you get the temperature wrong with a still you go blind from the methanol, cannabis plants simply die. See above. |
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