About Hamilton's fracture

Since there was some discussion about it in this forum:

According to a journalist I heard yesterday on a TOUR dF TV program,
Hamilton has a "green stick fracture". My wife, who works in a hospital,
explained the details of it to me and I quickly forgot most of it rather
fast :-)

It seems to happen mostly to children and is compared to a twig that you
break with your hands: the parts don't get seperated.

Maybe someone else is better informed about this fracture than I am?

Greets, Derk

From: (Paul Southworth)

For Tyler, aside from dealing with the pain, I think his main problem
is risk of falling again before it's healed, which could be a real
disaster (snip)

I might have read it wrong but that seems to be the gist of the Roche
sentiment, that Tyler is taking a serious risk he shouldn't be taking. --Tom
Paterson

On Fri, 25 Jul 2003 04:30:18 +0000, Tom Paterson wrote:

I might have read it wrong but that seems to be the gist of the Roche
sentiment, that Tyler is taking a serious risk he shouldn't be taking.

If Hamilton ends up on the podium in Paris, I doubt that he will have
thought the risk was too great.

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A greenstick fracture is generally reserved for children whose bones are
still hardening. Thus their bones can (with sufficient force) bend like
a green piece of wood and get cracked but not all the way through the
width of the bone.

Tyler had a double hairline fracture in an inverted 'V' shape. As the
pieces of bone were not displaced at all, his clavicle was not unstable.
Thus it was possible for him to ride but with a lot of pain. Yes he's
taking painkillers but they won't help too much and all the strongest
ones are banned for professional sportspeople. He is one tough (or
crazy?) cyclist.



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"James Annan" wrote in message
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(Paul Southworth) wrote in message
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For Tyler, aside from dealing with the pain, I think his main problem
is risk of falling again before it's healed, which could be a real
disaster and would make him look like a fool for racing on it.

Why? What could he possibly do worse than break it? A broken
collarbone is hardly a career-threatening injury, as countless
cyclists have shown.

Because you and Tyler have some very important and large vessels and nerves
running diretly beneath the clavicle. A fall on an already compromised bone
might cause it to break and and possibly damage any of those structures.



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"patch70" wrote in message
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A greenstick fracture is generally reserved for children whose bones
are
still hardening. Thus their bones can (with sufficient force) bend
like
a green piece of wood and get cracked but not all the way through the
width of the bone.

Tyler had a double hairline fracture in an inverted 'V' shape. As the
pieces of bone were not displaced at all, his clavicle was not
unstable.
Thus it was possible for him to ride but with a lot of pain. Yes he's
taking painkillers but they won't help too much and all the strongest
ones are banned for professional sportspeople. He is one tough (or
crazy?) cyclist.

I was thinking that it could be more of a problem for other riders
because pain pills tend to slow your reflexes and dull your attention --
at least the opioids I have taken had that effect. Not a good thing in a
tight pack or on a twisting descent. -- Jay Beattie.

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James Annan wrote:
(Paul Southworth) wrote in message ...

For Tyler, aside from dealing with the pain, I think his main problem
is risk of falling again before it's healed, which could be a real
disaster and would make him look like a fool for racing on it.

Why? What could he possibly do worse than break it? A broken
collarbone is hardly a career-threatening injury, as countless
cyclists have shown.

From what I've heard, his collarbone is not separated and not broken
through, only cracked. If he fell on it, there's a good chance it
would separate and he might be having it screwed together. Furthermore
sometimes people break a collarbone and find that it doesn't knit
back together easily or quickly. In his current condition I predict
he will heal up easily without surgery or other complications - no
guarantee of that if he falls again.

I agree it is not a career-threatening injury, and I'm not calling
him stupid for riding the tour, just pointing out that if he really
bashed it good he'd probably regret the decision.

I was thinking that it could be more of a problem for other riders
because pain pills tend to slow your reflexes and dull your attention --
at least the opioids I have taken had that effect. Not a good thing in a
tight pack or on a twisting descent. -- Jay Beattie.

Aspirin or an equivilent is the strongest he's allowed to take.
Phil Brown

I read in the evening paper that the French Tour doctor (dr G. Porte) said
the clavicula had 2 cracks: 1 from last years Giro and 1 from his fall this
year.

Speaking about falls: I read Armstrong's TREK's chainstay broke when he
fell. That didn't look like a serious enough fall to break a carbon
chainstay I would say. Strange.....

Greets, Derk

Derk wrote:
I read in the evening paper that the French Tour doctor (dr G. Porte) said
the clavicula had 2 cracks: 1 from last years Giro and 1 from his fall this
year.

Speaking about falls: I read Armstrong's TREK's chainstay broke when he
fell. That didn't look like a serious enough fall to break a carbon
chainstay I would say. Strange.....

Greets, Derk

Iban Mayo rode over the back of LANCE's bike while falling.

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