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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
Went by the bike shop today to look at a Trek 7300 Hybrid and asked the guy about fitting the bike and taking measurements and stuff and he just looked at me. He says 'you should take a 17.5 frame, but there's no 'fitting', that's for a Road bike'. I said 'what about measuring me and adjusting the seat height and the reach and handlebars?' He says, 'no we'd just adjust the seat height, but that's it, you can adjust the handlebars with this lever or screw; with a Hybrid, you just straddle it.' After all the talk here of getting the bike fitted and having a good LBS being your best part of the purchase, I was puzzled. Is this true, Hybrids don't require measurement? This is the only Trek bike shop in town, (one other sells Gary Fishers), and the ppl seem nice enough, offered me lifetime adjustments free, etc. -B |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
Badger_South wrote in
: Is this true, Hybrids don't require measurement? This is the only Trek bike shop in town, (one other sells Gary Fishers), and the ppl seem nice enough, offered me lifetime adjustments free, etc. With a normal road bike, riding positions are pretty well defined, so a good shop can usually give you a good fitting. Hybrids are used for a wide variety of purposes, from cruising on flat bike paths, to fairly rough off-road, to fast road riding. The fitter needs a lot of information about the rider to do a good job. Maybe that's why your shop want to leave it up to you. I think they should have at least tried, especially if the customer knows what they want. |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
To me, it shouldn't matter what bike you get, it should be the correct fit for
you. If it's not, you can end up with a bike that's uncomfortable to ride. From the description you gave, I'd be walking out of that shop and *not* buying from the guy. Whilst not expecting the same level of "fit" as if buying a custom-built jobbie, I don't think it's unreasonable that it's worked out what will fit you with a bit more thought & consideration and the chance to try the bike out before you buy. To me, his couldn't care less attitude speaks of how he may be less than willing to work out any probelms you find with the bike if you buy it. Cheers, helen s --This is an invalid email address to avoid spam-- to get correct one remove fame & fortune **$om $ --Due to financial crisis the light at the end of the tunnel is switched off-- |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:53:07 -0400, Badger_South
wrote: I said 'what about measuring me and adjusting the seat height and the reach and handlebars?' He says, 'no we'd just adjust the seat height, but that's it, you can adjust the handlebars with this lever or screw; with a Hybrid, you just straddle it.' Sounds like a jerk, no matter how pleasant he was about it. Either that, or so unknowledgable as to not know what "reach" means. Do not buy from them. It doesn't matter that they're the only game in town; you might as well buy mail order, for that kind of service. A more distant bike shop with better service is worth the drive. -- Rick Onanian |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
Went by the bike shop today to look at a Trek 7300 Hybrid and asked the
guy about fitting the bike and taking measurements and stuff and he just looked at me. He says 'you should take a 17.5 frame, but there's no 'fitting', that's for a Road bike'. I said 'what about measuring me and adjusting the seat height and the reach and handlebars?' He says, 'no we'd just adjust the seat height, but that's it, you can adjust the handlebars with this lever or screw; with a Hybrid, you just straddle it.' Truth be told, there is no objective way to measure "fit" for a hybrid. Seat height is a given, and this can either be measured or checked visually enough (with the pedal at the bottom, foot flat, there should be a slight bend at the knee, and the cross-check is to place the crank roughly in line with the downtube and look for a 90-degree included angle between the upper & lower leg). But that doesn't mean that fit isn't important. If the shop suggested that it was *your* job to adjust the handlebars, that's simply wrong. It's the shop's job to look at you on the bike (preferably while riding) and check out your position. They should be looking for how relaxed you are, and making sure that, if you're going to be riding any distances, you're not *too* upright (because that puts too much weight on your tail end, making you more saddle sore). There are just too many ways that people want to ride a hybrid... you can't create a hard-and-set group of rules or measurements to them. In all cases, whether hybrid or road or mountain bike, the reach from the saddle to handlebar is really the most important consideration, and, on a hybrid is no different from a road bike in that a taller frame size will have a longer top tube. For that reason, standover height alone is *not* a singular criteria for determining frame size. It's a beginning, but from there you have to see how everything else plays out. So it's like this. Measurements don't mean so much for a hybrid, but sizing is a lot more than mesurements. If the shop said that they'd check you out while riding and make adjustments, they may very well be doing a decent job of fitting you. If, on the other hand, they said that the standover height's OK, go home and play with the handlebar adjustments... no. It's the shop's responsibility to fit you, or at least explain how the adjustments affect what you'll feel. --Mike-- Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com "Badger_South" wrote in message ... Went by the bike shop today to look at a Trek 7300 Hybrid and asked the guy about fitting the bike and taking measurements and stuff and he just looked at me. He says 'you should take a 17.5 frame, but there's no 'fitting', that's for a Road bike'. I said 'what about measuring me and adjusting the seat height and the reach and handlebars?' He says, 'no we'd just adjust the seat height, but that's it, you can adjust the handlebars with this lever or screw; with a Hybrid, you just straddle it.' After all the talk here of getting the bike fitted and having a good LBS being your best part of the purchase, I was puzzled. Is this true, Hybrids don't require measurement? This is the only Trek bike shop in town, (one other sells Gary Fishers), and the ppl seem nice enough, offered me lifetime adjustments free, etc. -B |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 22:24:45 GMT, "Mike Jacoubowsky/Chain Reaction
Bicycles" wrote: Measurements don't mean so much for a hybrid, but sizing is a lot more than mesurements. If the shop said that they'd check you out while riding and make adjustments, they may very well be doing a decent job of fitting you. If, on the other hand, they said that the standover height's OK, go home and play with the handlebar adjustments... no. It's the shop's responsibility to fit you, or at least explain how the adjustments affect what you'll feel. OK, thanks, all. I'll prob. print out some of the replies and take them with me when I go back. 'preciate it! ;-) -B |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
Badger_South wrote:
Went by the bike shop today to look at a Trek 7300 Hybrid and asked the guy about fitting the bike and taking measurements and stuff and he just looked at me. He says 'you should take a 17.5 frame, but there's no 'fitting', that's for a Road bike'. *snork* Sounds like the experience I had at my local Trek dealer... I've had several people tell me I should have gone with a 7300 vs. the lowend hybrid I got from Giant... but I'm happy, and I'm out riding... |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 11:25:46 GMT, B a r r y
wrote: On Wed, 21 Apr 2004 14:53:07 -0400, Badger_South wrote: He says, 'no we'd just adjust the seat height, but that's it, you can adjust the handlebars with this lever or screw; with a Hybrid, you just straddle it.' We usually check the saddle height, adjust the stem, and check the rough saddle fore/aft adjustment on a hybrid. If the customer has purchased clipless pedals, we install the pedals and adjust the release tension, if applicable. Other than that, we don't do all the steps we would do on a full-on road bike fitting. Things like handlebar width are either not as important, or the parts don't come in as many sizes. Barry Thanks. That sounds reasonable. On the pedals, I'm planning on getting cages installed, b/c I tend to pedal with my arch centered on the pedals, instead of the ball of the foot, and I think cages will help correct this. Does that make sense on a hybrid? When measuring the seat height, should the leg be just under straight but with the ball of the foot on the pedal? -B |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:13:00 -0400, Badger_South
wrote: On the pedals, I'm planning on getting cages installed, b/c I tend to pedal with my arch centered on the pedals, instead of the ball of the foot, and I think cages will help correct this. Does that make sense on a hybrid? Clipless would work just as well if you'd prefer them. Either way will be okay. More importantly, do you _want_ to "correct" it? If you're comfortable with it, don't worry how you look whilst riding. When measuring the seat height, should the leg be just under straight but with the ball of the foot on the pedal? That's fine. A similar method is to have the leg completely straight with the heel on the pedal. It's not rocket science until you find that very long rides hurt; and by that time, you've made your own very minor adjustments anyway. -- Rick Onanian |
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No fitting for a Trek Hybrid?
On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 16:38:14 -0400, Rick Onanian
wrote: On Thu, 22 Apr 2004 08:13:00 -0400, Badger_South wrote: On the pedals, I'm planning on getting cages installed, b/c I tend to pedal with my arch centered on the pedals, instead of the ball of the foot, and I think cages will help correct this. Does that make sense on a hybrid? Clipless would work just as well if you'd prefer them. Either way will be okay. More importantly, do you _want_ to "correct" it? If you're comfortable with it, don't worry how you look whilst riding. Clipless prejudices you to wear clipless shoes. Toeclips: no such commitment. If you're going to have only one bicycle, make it one with toeclips. -Luigi When measuring the seat height, should the leg be just under straight but with the ball of the foot on the pedal? That's fine. A similar method is to have the leg completely straight with the heel on the pedal. It's not rocket science until you find that very long rides hurt; and by that time, you've made your own very minor adjustments anyway. |
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