cyclist fined for no lights etc.

On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 9:13:32 PM UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Simon Mason wrote:
On Saturday, February 1, 2020 at 7:08:44 PM UTC, Kerr-Mudd,John wrote:

"literally dozens"? phaw. car drivers? Oh, maybe 10,000. But we pay
blah blah...

Speeding, parking the wrong way at night, on yellow lines, on zig
zags, outside schools, pavement parking, obstructing traffic by
inconsiderate parking, driving while drunk, on mobile phones, with no
car tax, no licence, no insurance, no MOT, illegal plates, overtaking
on double lines, due care, bald tyres, faulty brakes, one eyed
monsters, no rear lights, no brake lights, no indicators, fog light
abuse, faulty steering, windscreen obscuration, darkly tinted
windows, child seat abuse, no seatbelts, insecure load, one way
street abuse, amber/red light jumping, cycle box abuse, bus lane
abuse, box junction abuse, death by dangerous driving, excess smoke
and noise from exhaust, duff suspension, leaking oil, cash for crash
fiddles, underage child in front, lights causing glare, over weight
limit, ignoring no entry signs, parking without permit, not having
control of your vehicle, improper use of horn, using horn at night,
no in date photo licence, no licence application after long ban,
without prescribed eyewear, failing to stop for police/lollipop/zebra
etc - ran out of space.


Your usual copy and paste ****.

Which of those driving offences are you challenging as being incorrect, or do they all happen?

On Sunday, 2 February 2020 07:59:23 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 02:50, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:29:30 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 21:58, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:32:12 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 20:23, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:37:18 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 13:54, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:06:36 UTC, Bod wrote:
On 01/02/2020 10:46, MrCheerful wrote:
Brilliant, just do this 4 million times and they might take notice.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/sur...amera-17665999

Same applies to drivers:

A fifth of motorists have ran a red light in the last year | This is ...
A fifth of motorists and more than a quarter of cyclists admit they've
run a red light in the last year. By Rob Hull For Thisismoney.co..uk
09:26 EST 05 Apr 2018 , updated 10:18 EST ... Drivers not only owned up
to jumping red traffic lights but also ...


https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ight-year.html

Get a life, you saddo.
--
Bod

Only a fifth? I suspect that is a motorists definition of running a red light i.e it doesn't count if the light has only been red for ten seconds because motorists pay road tax. If a cyclist crosses a red light 0.01 seconds after red it proves all cyclists run red lights.



there are numerous videos of literally dozens of cyclists ignoring a red
light, one after the other. It is rare to see more than one car jump a
red light, largely because of police cameras, dash cams and number plates.

So you think it is OK for car drivers to jump a red light so long as no other car driver follows?


It is illegal no matter what private vehicle does it.
But the point is that cyclists regularly ignore red lights, very often
just going over in a herd, while it is rare to see more than one car
jump the same red light.

How often do cyclists ignore red lights compared to car drivers?
It would help your case if you can provide evidence to support your claim.


From personal viewing

And how about the facts?


newspaper reports, online videos.

Cite them.

How about witnessing it yourself

I witness motorists breaking the law more often than cyclists.

do they let you out?

Childish.

On 02/02/2020 20:18, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 2 February 2020 07:59:23 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 02:50, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:29:30 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 21:58, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:32:12 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 20:23, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:37:18 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 13:54, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:06:36 UTC, Bod wrote:
On 01/02/2020 10:46, MrCheerful wrote:
Brilliant, just do this 4 million times and they might take notice.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/sur...amera-17665999

Same applies to drivers:

A fifth of motorists have ran a red light in the last year | This is ...
A fifth of motorists and more than a quarter of cyclists admit they've
run a red light in the last year. By Rob Hull For Thisismoney.co.uk
09:26 EST 05 Apr 2018 , updated 10:18 EST ... Drivers not only owned up
to jumping red traffic lights but also ...


https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ight-year.html

Get a life, you saddo.
--
Bod

Only a fifth? I suspect that is a motorists definition of running a red light i.e it doesn't count if the light has only been red for ten seconds because motorists pay road tax. If a cyclist crosses a red light 0.01 seconds after red it proves all cyclists run red lights.



there are numerous videos of literally dozens of cyclists ignoring a red
light, one after the other. It is rare to see more than one car jump a
red light, largely because of police cameras, dash cams and number plates.

So you think it is OK for car drivers to jump a red light so long as no other car driver follows?


It is illegal no matter what private vehicle does it.
But the point is that cyclists regularly ignore red lights, very often
just going over in a herd, while it is rare to see more than one car
jump the same red light.

How often do cyclists ignore red lights compared to car drivers?
It would help your case if you can provide evidence to support your claim.


From personal viewing

And how about the facts?


newspaper reports, online videos.

Cite them.

How about witnessing it yourself

I witness motorists breaking the law more often than cyclists.

do they let you out?

Childish.




You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 20:18, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 2 February 2020 07:59:23 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 02:50, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:29:30 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 21:58, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:32:12 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 20:23, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:37:18 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 13:54, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:06:36 UTC, Bod wrote:
On 01/02/2020 10:46, MrCheerful wrote:
Brilliant, just do this 4 million times and they might
take notice.
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/sur...amera-17665999

Same applies to drivers:

A fifth of motorists have ran a red light in the last year
| This is ... A fifth of motorists and more than a quarter
of cyclists admit they've run a red light in the last year.
By Rob Hull For Thisismoney.co.uk 09:26 EST 05 Apr 2018 ,
updated 10:18 EST ... Drivers not only owned up to jumping
red traffic lights but also ...
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ight-year.html

Get a life, you saddo.
--
Bod

Only a fifth? I suspect that is a motorists definition of
running a red light i.e it doesn't count if the light has
only been red for ten seconds because motorists pay road
tax. If a cyclist crosses a red light 0.01 seconds after red
it proves all cyclists run red lights.


there are numerous videos of literally dozens of cyclists
ignoring a red light, one after the other. It is rare to see
more than one car jump a red light, largely because of police
cameras, dash cams and number plates.

So you think it is OK for car drivers to jump a red light so
long as no other car driver follows?

It is illegal no matter what private vehicle does it.
But the point is that cyclists regularly ignore red lights,
very often just going over in a herd, while it is rare to see
more than one car jump the same red light.

How often do cyclists ignore red lights compared to car drivers?
It would help your case if you can provide evidence to support
your claim.

From personal viewing

And how about the facts?


newspaper reports, online videos.

Cite them.

How about witnessing it yourself

I witness motorists breaking the law more often than cyclists.

do they let you out?

Childish.




You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

Can't agree with that. Scum council estates are infested by unemployable
cyclists.

On Monday, 3 February 2020 19:27:55 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 20:18, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 2 February 2020 07:59:23 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 02:50, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:29:30 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 21:58, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:32:12 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 20:23, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:37:18 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 13:54, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:06:36 UTC, Bod wrote:
On 01/02/2020 10:46, MrCheerful wrote:
Brilliant, just do this 4 million times and they might take notice.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/sur...amera-17665999

Same applies to drivers:

A fifth of motorists have ran a red light in the last year | This is ...
A fifth of motorists and more than a quarter of cyclists admit they've
run a red light in the last year. By Rob Hull For Thisismoney.co.uk
09:26 EST 05 Apr 2018 , updated 10:18 EST ... Drivers not only owned up
to jumping red traffic lights but also ...


https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ight-year.html

Get a life, you saddo.
--
Bod

Only a fifth? I suspect that is a motorists definition of running a red light i.e it doesn't count if the light has only been red for ten seconds because motorists pay road tax. If a cyclist crosses a red light 0.01 seconds after red it proves all cyclists run red lights.



there are numerous videos of literally dozens of cyclists ignoring a red
light, one after the other. It is rare to see more than one car jump a
red light, largely because of police cameras, dash cams and number plates.

So you think it is OK for car drivers to jump a red light so long as no other car driver follows?


It is illegal no matter what private vehicle does it.
But the point is that cyclists regularly ignore red lights, very often
just going over in a herd, while it is rare to see more than one car
jump the same red light.

How often do cyclists ignore red lights compared to car drivers?
It would help your case if you can provide evidence to support your claim.


From personal viewing

And how about the facts?


newspaper reports, online videos.

Cite them.

How about witnessing it yourself

I witness motorists breaking the law more often than cyclists.

do they let you out?

Childish.




You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

What percentage of motorists break speed limits?

On Monday, 3 February 2020 21:31:27 UTC, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 20:18, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 2 February 2020 07:59:23 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 02:50, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:29:30 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 21:58, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:32:12 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 20:23, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:37:18 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 13:54, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:06:36 UTC, Bod wrote:
On 01/02/2020 10:46, MrCheerful wrote:
Brilliant, just do this 4 million times and they might
take notice.
https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/sur...amera-17665999

Same applies to drivers:

A fifth of motorists have ran a red light in the last year
| This is ... A fifth of motorists and more than a quarter
of cyclists admit they've run a red light in the last year.
By Rob Hull For Thisismoney.co.uk 09:26 EST 05 Apr 2018 ,
updated 10:18 EST ... Drivers not only owned up to jumping
red traffic lights but also ...
https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ight-year.html

Get a life, you saddo.
--
Bod

Only a fifth? I suspect that is a motorists definition of
running a red light i.e it doesn't count if the light has
only been red for ten seconds because motorists pay road
tax. If a cyclist crosses a red light 0.01 seconds after red
it proves all cyclists run red lights.


there are numerous videos of literally dozens of cyclists
ignoring a red light, one after the other. It is rare to see
more than one car jump a red light, largely because of police
cameras, dash cams and number plates.

So you think it is OK for car drivers to jump a red light so
long as no other car driver follows?

It is illegal no matter what private vehicle does it.
But the point is that cyclists regularly ignore red lights,
very often just going over in a herd, while it is rare to see
more than one car jump the same red light.

How often do cyclists ignore red lights compared to car drivers?
It would help your case if you can provide evidence to support
your claim.

From personal viewing

And how about the facts?


newspaper reports, online videos.

Cite them.

How about witnessing it yourself

I witness motorists breaking the law more often than cyclists.

do they let you out?

Childish.




You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

Can't agree with that. Scum council estates are infested by unemployable
cyclists.

I wouldn't know about that. Probably because, unlike you, I own my own house mortgage free.

On 03/02/2020 19:27, MrCheerful wrote:

You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

You're obviously another of those that "observes" naughty cyclists from
a form of transport that kills 2 pedestrians a day and believes you're
better.

On 04/02/2020 05:11, Mike Collins wrote:
On Monday, 3 February 2020 19:27:55 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 20:18, Mike Collins wrote:
On Sunday, 2 February 2020 07:59:23 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 02/02/2020 02:50, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 23:29:30 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 21:58, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 20:32:12 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 20:23, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 15:37:18 UTC, MrCheerful wrote:
On 01/02/2020 13:54, Mike Collins wrote:
On Saturday, 1 February 2020 11:06:36 UTC, Bod wrote:
On 01/02/2020 10:46, MrCheerful wrote:
Brilliant, just do this 4 million times and they might take notice.

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/sur...amera-17665999

Same applies to drivers:

A fifth of motorists have ran a red light in the last year | This is ...
A fifth of motorists and more than a quarter of cyclists admit they've
run a red light in the last year. By Rob Hull For Thisismoney.co.uk
09:26 EST 05 Apr 2018 , updated 10:18 EST ... Drivers not only owned up
to jumping red traffic lights but also ...


https://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/...ight-year.html

Get a life, you saddo.
--
Bod

Only a fifth? I suspect that is a motorists definition of running a red light i.e it doesn't count if the light has only been red for ten seconds because motorists pay road tax. If a cyclist crosses a red light 0.01 seconds after red it proves all cyclists run red lights.



there are numerous videos of literally dozens of cyclists ignoring a red
light, one after the other. It is rare to see more than one car jump a
red light, largely because of police cameras, dash cams and number plates.

So you think it is OK for car drivers to jump a red light so long as no other car driver follows?


It is illegal no matter what private vehicle does it.
But the point is that cyclists regularly ignore red lights, very often
just going over in a herd, while it is rare to see more than one car
jump the same red light.

How often do cyclists ignore red lights compared to car drivers?
It would help your case if you can provide evidence to support your claim.


From personal viewing

And how about the facts?


newspaper reports, online videos.

Cite them.

How about witnessing it yourself

I witness motorists breaking the law more often than cyclists.

do they let you out?

Childish.




You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

What percentage of motorists break speed limits?



this is a cycling group, please stay on topic.

On 04/02/2020 09:15, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2020 08:22, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/02/2020 19:27, MrCheerful wrote:

You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

You're obviously another of those that "observes" naughty cyclists
from a form of transport that kills 2 pedestrians a day and
believes you're better.

Cheerless personifies the word bloviate:
Bloviate To bloviate is to talk, but not just to chat. To bloviate
means to go on and on and on and on, usually in a pompous way. ...
When someone bloviates, he is speaking in an empty, pretentious,
full-of-himself manner.

A bloviating hypocrite... ?

On 04/02/2020 16:06, TMS320 wrote:
On 04/02/2020 09:15, Bod wrote:
On 04/02/2020 08:22, TMS320 wrote:
On 03/02/2020 19:27, MrCheerful wrote:

You obviously inhabit somewhere with very few cyclists.

You're obviously another of those that "observes" naughty cyclists
from a form of transport that kills 2 pedestrians a day and
believes you're better.

Cheerless personifies the word bloviate:
Bloviate To bloviate is to talk, but not just to chat. To bloviate
means to go on and on and on and on, usually in a pompous way. ...
When someone bloviates, he is speaking in an empty, pretentious,
full-of-himself manner.

A bloviating hypocrite... ?

That as well, yes.

--
Bod