FAO Simon Mason

You have previously said that you believe that speeding is equivalent
to shoplifting. You have also said that your wife was caught
speeding.

So are you saying that you wouldn't have reacted any differently if
she'd been caught shoplifting instead? Be honest now.

Speeding isn't *really* the same as shoplifting, is it? One is a
normal behaviour, which is safe in itself and practised daily and
broadly accepted by decent, educated people; the other is not.
Everyone instinctively knows that they're different, and that's
because they are. People should trust such instincts instead of
attempting to override them with false logic.

On Sat, 16 May 2009 08:06:06 -0700 (PDT), Nuxx Bar
wrote:

You have previously said that you believe that speeding is equivalent
to shoplifting. You have also said that your wife was caught
speeding.

So are you saying that you wouldn't have reacted any differently if
she'd been caught shoplifting instead? Be honest now.

Speeding isn't *really* the same as shoplifting, is it?

No.

Most speeders do so in the mistaken belief that they are doing nothing
wrong, and try to justify their behaviour to themselves and others.
Whereas shoplifters do so with the full knowledge that what they are
doing is wrong.

It seems, then, that shoplifters are being more honest to themselves
than speeders.

On Sat, 16 May 2009 18:41:24 +0100, Tom Crispin
wrote:

Most speeders do so in the mistaken belief that they are doing nothing
wrong, and try to justify their behaviour to themselves and others.
Whereas shoplifters do so with the full knowledge that what they are
doing is wrong.

Also shoplifting does not usually endanger anybody's life.

Guy
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Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

Tom Crispin wrote:

Most speeders do so in the mistaken belief that they are doing nothing
wrong, and try to justify their behaviour to themselves and others.
Whereas shoplifters do so with the full knowledge that what they are
doing is wrong.

Also shoplifting does not usually endanger anybody's life.

And, of course, exceeding an arbitrary speed limit also does not usually
endanger anybody's life.

On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:30:39 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

Tom Crispin wrote:

Most speeders do so in the mistaken belief that they are doing nothing
wrong, and try to justify their behaviour to themselves and others.
Whereas shoplifters do so with the full knowledge that what they are
doing is wrong.

Also shoplifting does not usually endanger anybody's life.

And, of course, exceeding an arbitrary speed limit also does not usually
endanger anybody's life.

It's certainly more likely to endanger someone's life than slipping a
couple of lipsticks into a handbag.

"Tom Crispin" wrote in message
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On Sat, 16 May 2009 19:30:39 +0100, JNugent
wrote:

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:

Tom Crispin wrote:

Most speeders do so in the mistaken belief that they are doing nothing
wrong, and try to justify their behaviour to themselves and others.
Whereas shoplifters do so with the full knowledge that what they are
doing is wrong.

Also shoplifting does not usually endanger anybody's life.

And, of course, exceeding an arbitrary speed limit also does not usually
endanger anybody's life.

It's certainly more likely to endanger someone's life than slipping a
couple of lipsticks into a handbag.

C'mon you are arguing with Numpty Nugent here, a car travelling at 40 mph
and only 12 inches from a cyclist couldn't *possibly* hurt anyone.

Tom Crispin wrote:

JNugent wrote:
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
Tom Crispin wrote:

Most speeders do so in the mistaken belief that they are doing nothing
wrong, and try to justify their behaviour to themselves and others.
Whereas shoplifters do so with the full knowledge that what they are
doing is wrong.

Also shoplifting does not usually endanger anybody's life.

And, of course, exceeding an arbitrary speed limit also does not usually
endanger anybody's life.

It's certainly more likely to endanger someone's life than slipping a
couple of lipsticks into a handbag.

Is that the best you can do? It's feeble.

On May 16, 10:06*am, Nuxx Bar wrote:
You have previously said that you believe that speeding is equivalent
to shoplifting. *You have also said that your wife was caught
speeding.

So are you saying that you wouldn't have reacted any differently if
she'd been caught shoplifting instead? *Be honest now.

Speeding isn't *really* the same as shoplifting, is it? *One is a
normal behaviour, which is safe in itself and practised daily and
broadly accepted by decent, educated people; the other is not.
Everyone instinctively knows that they're different, and that's
because they are. *People should trust such instincts instead of
attempting to override them with false logic.

Hang, let me go google how many people have been killed by a shop
lifter. Twit.

On May 17, 2:40*am, Marz wrote:
On May 16, 10:06*am, Nuxx Bar wrote:

You have previously said that you believe that speeding is equivalent
to shoplifting. *You have also said that your wife was caught
speeding.

So are you saying that you wouldn't have reacted any differently if
she'd been caught shoplifting instead? *Be honest now.

Speeding isn't *really* the same as shoplifting, is it? *One is a
normal behaviour, which is safe in itself and practised daily and
broadly accepted by decent, educated people; the other is not.
Everyone instinctively knows that they're different, and that's
because they are. *People should trust such instincts instead of
attempting to override them with false logic.

Hang, let me go google how many people have been killed by a shop
lifter. Twit.

Ladies and gentleman, the simple-mindedness of the average camera
supporter.

On May 16, 9:11*pm, Nuxx Bar wrote:
On May 17, 2:40*am, Marz wrote:



On May 16, 10:06*am, Nuxx Bar wrote:

You have previously said that you believe that speeding is equivalent
to shoplifting. *You have also said that your wife was caught
speeding.

So are you saying that you wouldn't have reacted any differently if
she'd been caught shoplifting instead? *Be honest now.

Speeding isn't *really* the same as shoplifting, is it? *One is a
normal behaviour, which is safe in itself and practised daily and
broadly accepted by decent, educated people; the other is not.
Everyone instinctively knows that they're different, and that's
because they are. *People should trust such instincts instead of
attempting to override them with false logic.

Hang, let me go google how many people have been killed by a shop
lifter. Twit.

Ladies and gentleman, the simple-mindedness of the average camera
supporter.

So a quick google of 'uk death by speeding driver' gets this...

1. WalesOnline - News - Wales News - Speeding driver jailed for
road ...
2. Police driver convicted over high-speed crash death | UK news ...
3. Speeding drivers with loophole lawyers to face police challenge ...
4. BBC NEWS | UK | Northern Ireland | Driver speeding after death
crash
5. Death crash driver 'made announcement while speeding on bend ...
6. Texting driver jailed for death crash | Metro.co.uk
7. Girl's death blamed on speeding driver - The National Newspaper
8. Speed Cameras - one million illegal drivers in UK
9. Fatal heartbreak for speeding drivers :: News :: Southend-on-
Sea ...
10. Driver of death coach had record for speeding - Scotsman.com News

And a google of 'uk death by shoplifter' get this...
1. Al Norman: Another Shoplifter Death at Wal-Mart
2. SHOPLIFTING IN BRITAIN
3. Real Radio Yorkshire - 106~108fm :: Terry Loses Shoplifting ...
4. Police say shoplifter tries to shave more than $1000 off a Fla ...
5. Former Cop Sentenced In Alleged Shoplifter's Death - News Story ...
6. BBC NEWS | UK | England | Shoplifter wanted over death
7. Rite Aid Shoplifter's Death Ruled a Homicide | Crime, Law ...
8. Senior police officer killed himself after shoplifting charge ...
9. Shoplifter denies murdering schoolboy - UK, News - The Independent

I'm not going to attempt to extract any more information than the
search results show.