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  #11  
Old December 28th 15, 02:59 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
Kinnell
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"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0000, Norman Rowing
wrote:

On 27/12/2015 21:31, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights


The law is clear: Highway Code rule 114 [Law RVLR reg 27] "You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other
road users, including pedestrians and cyclists"

Except the Highway Code carries no legal weight at all


I class any light when it isn't dark as a distraction. You should only
draw attention to yourself if you need to, for example you're turning,
braking, or an unusual vehicle like an ambulance, motorcycle, etc. If
everybody has lights, then you are less likely to notice the ones you need
to.

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Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.



With ordinary tungsten filament lamps the brightness was limted to a maximum
of 21 watts for each headlight on a car, then they introduced halogen lamps
which were able to run hotter and brighter......now there are LEDs which
produce a brilliant white light (thousands of Lumens) . I don't know if the
law has kept up with technology.

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  #12  
Old December 28th 15, 03:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_2_]
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On 12/27/2015 1:31 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights



Minister of transport? Wot a laughable title, wot a ridiculous
government run by an old whore.
LOL

  #13  
Old December 28th 15, 03:08 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
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Default Ban bright car lights

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 14:59:04 -0000, Kinnell wrote:


"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0000, Norman Rowing
wrote:

On 27/12/2015 21:31, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights

The law is clear: Highway Code rule 114 [Law RVLR reg 27] "You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other
road users, including pedestrians and cyclists"

Except the Highway Code carries no legal weight at all


I class any light when it isn't dark as a distraction. You should only
draw attention to yourself if you need to, for example you're turning,
braking, or an unusual vehicle like an ambulance, motorcycle, etc. If
everybody has lights, then you are less likely to notice the ones you need
to.

--
Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.



With ordinary tungsten filament lamps the brightness was limted to a maximum
of 21 watts for each headlight on a car, then they introduced halogen lamps
which were able to run hotter and brighter......now there are LEDs which
produce a brilliant white light (thousands of Lumens) . I don't know if the
law has kept up with technology.


DRLs are allowed up to 1200mcd I think, which is more than dipped headlights. Japan set DRLs at 200mcd.

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  #14  
Old December 28th 15, 03:09 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
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Default Ban bright car lights

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:04:59 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke wrote:

On 12/27/2015 1:31 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights



Minister of transport? Wot a laughable title, wot a ridiculous
government run by an old whore.
LOL


At least our leader is white.

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  #15  
Old December 28th 15, 03:23 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
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Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:04:59 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:
On 12/27/2015 1:31 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights



Minister of transport? Wot a laughable title, wot a ridiculous
government run by an old whore.
LOL


At least our leader is white.


Once for PHucker replies to a well known troll.
What a ******.


  #16  
Old December 28th 15, 03:31 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
Norman Rowing[_3_]
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On 28/12/2015 14:59, Kinnell wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0000, Norman Rowing
wrote:

On 27/12/2015 21:31, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights


The law is clear: Highway Code rule 114 [Law RVLR reg 27] "You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other
road users, including pedestrians and cyclists"

Except the Highway Code carries no legal weight at all


I class any light when it isn't dark as a distraction. You should
only draw attention to yourself if you need to, for example you're
turning, braking, or an unusual vehicle like an ambulance, motorcycle,
etc. If everybody has lights, then you are less likely to notice the
ones you need to.

--
Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.



With ordinary tungsten filament lamps the brightness was limted to a
maximum of 21 watts for each headlight on a car,


45W, indicators and brake lights were 21W, sidelights 5W IIRC


then they introduced
halogen lamps which were able to run hotter and brighter......now there
are LEDs which produce a brilliant white light (thousands of Lumens) . I
don't know if the law has kept up with technology.


  #17  
Old December 28th 15, 04:05 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
Kinnell
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Default Ban bright car lights


"Norman Rowing" wrote in message
...
On 28/12/2015 14:59, Kinnell wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message
news
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0000, Norman Rowing
wrote:

On 27/12/2015 21:31, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights


The law is clear: Highway Code rule 114 [Law RVLR reg 27] "You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other
road users, including pedestrians and cyclists"

Except the Highway Code carries no legal weight at all

I class any light when it isn't dark as a distraction. You should
only draw attention to yourself if you need to, for example you're
turning, braking, or an unusual vehicle like an ambulance, motorcycle,
etc. If everybody has lights, then you are less likely to notice the
ones you need to.

--
Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.



With ordinary tungsten filament lamps the brightness was limted to a
maximum of 21 watts for each headlight on a car,


45W, indicators and brake lights were 21W, sidelights 5W IIRC


then they introduced
halogen lamps which were able to run hotter and brighter......now there
are LEDs which produce a brilliant white light (thousands of Lumens) . I
don't know if the law has kept up with technology.




Whoops....I am getting too old for knowledgeable discussion.

  #18  
Old December 28th 15, 04:13 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
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Default Ban bright car lights

On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:31:34 -0000, Norman Rowing wrote:

On 28/12/2015 14:59, Kinnell wrote:

"Mr Macaw" wrote in message news
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 13:01:22 -0000, Norman Rowing
wrote:

On 27/12/2015 21:31, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights


The law is clear: Highway Code rule 114 [Law RVLR reg 27] "You MUST NOT
use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other
road users, including pedestrians and cyclists"

Except the Highway Code carries no legal weight at all

I class any light when it isn't dark as a distraction. You should
only draw attention to yourself if you need to, for example you're
turning, braking, or an unusual vehicle like an ambulance, motorcycle,
etc. If everybody has lights, then you are less likely to notice the
ones you need to.

--
Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects.



With ordinary tungsten filament lamps the brightness was limted to a
maximum of 21 watts for each headlight on a car,


45W, indicators and brake lights were 21W, sidelights 5W IIRC


Every headlight bulb I've ever seen for the last 30 years has been 55/65W (dual filament). 55 for dip and 65 for full.

Now common sense would make us read that as 55 or 65W OUTPUT if the bulb is made more efficient. Fitting a 55W LED for example would be the equivalent of 550W of tungsten, which would be beyond a joke.

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  #19  
Old December 28th 15, 04:29 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling,uk.rec.driving,uk.legal
Colonel Edmund J. Burke[_2_]
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On 12/28/2015 7:09 AM, Mr Macaw wrote:
On Mon, 28 Dec 2015 15:04:59 -0000, Colonel Edmund J. Burke
wrote:

On 12/27/2015 1:31 PM, Mr Macaw wrote:
https://www.change.org/p/minister-of...vehicle-lights



Minister of transport? Wot a laughable title, wot a ridiculous
government run by an old whore.
LOL


At least our leader is white.


Your "leader" is an old woman.
LOL

Purfect for a pansified island nation, I reckon.
LOL

  #20  
Old December 28th 15, 04:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Alycidon
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Default Ban bright car lights

On Monday, 28 December 2015 16:13:51 UTC, Mr Macaw wrote:

Every headlight bulb I've ever seen for the last 30 years has been 55/65W (dual filament). 55 for dip and 65 for full.

Now common sense would make us read that as 55 or 65W OUTPUT if the bulb is made more efficient. Fitting a 55W LED for example would be the equivalent of 550W of tungsten, which would be beyond a joke.


I wondered why that car driver told me that my 4000 lumen front bike light was too bright.



 




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