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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
turtle;1167544 wrote: as i said, i'm not really a road-rider so this are only guesses: You got me thinking now...is there any reason why the V-frame or T-frame bicycle set-up couldn't work for MUni? And you could potentially add a suspension fork on the front fork in the V-frame, or in a pivoting handlebar on the T-frame (and shock underneath) if you get what I mean. BTW, I think I'll try your flipped upside down T7 idea, if I can find a suitable attachment for the seatpost. What did you attach it with? Have you got a close-up photo? It should solve the problem of the T7 being too upright. Thanks! -- GizmoDuck The Induni Unicycle Tour 2009. Unicycle Tour of India. Email me for details. www.induni.adventureunicyclist.com The Uninam Tour 2008.....Hanoi to Saigon!!! www.uninam.net The SINZ Unicycle Tour 2007....South Island, New Zealand www.sinzuni.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GizmoDuck's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/794 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
GizmoDuck;1167560 wrote: You got me thinking now...is there any reason why the V-frame or T-frame bicycle set-up couldn't work for MUni? And you could potentially add a suspension fork on the front fork in the V-frame, or in a pivoting handlebar on the T-frame (and shock underneath) if you get what I mean. BTW, I think I'll try your flipped upside down T7 idea, if I can find a suitable attachment for the seatpost. What did you attach it with? Have you got a close-up photo? It should solve the problem of the T7 being too upright. Thanks! he took a normal unicycle seatpost and put 4 bolt on it to attach the t7 bar atleast thats what i see in the picture -- eenwieler-sander ------------------------------------------------------------------------ eenwieler-sander's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10956 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
i used a normel steal-seatpost, bent the plate a little bit (heated it), worked very well, probably not very strong for xc why not, for real muni/freeride, i'm not sure, but i'll try it with my T-thing next week on the 29" kh... for the 24" thea post is to short... you're right with the wight of the V frame, with alot lighter tubes... aerodynamic in TdF: the most of them ride in the slipstream (is that the right word?) except in the time trials.. -- turtle -'platzangst' (http://www.platzangst.com/)- '-schlumpf-' (http://www.schlumpf.ch/) 'my vids' (http://de.youtube.com/user/Balzner) 'my pics' (http://picasaweb.google.de/einrad2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ turtle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11288 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
turtle;1167584 wrote: i used a normel steal-seatpost, bent the plate a little bit (heated it), worked very well, probably not very strong for xc why not, for real muni/freeride, i'm not sure, but i'll try it with my T-thing next week on the 29" kh... for the 24" thea post is to short... you're right with the wight of the V frame, with alot lighter tubes... aerodynamic in TdF: the most of them ride in the slipstream (is that the right word?) except in the time trials.. Thanks Turtle. I might be able to use some sort of round spacer (I'm thinking lump of wood surrounded by an inner tube) to try to bolt two convex shapes together perhaps. Hmmm...I reckon if you were to use it for MUni, you'd need a wider bar for leverage. And definitely a low down position as well. Tour de France TT- I'm sure they still have their bars at about the same width as their shoulders. I'll let you know how I get on with the new flipped T7 -- GizmoDuck The Induni Unicycle Tour 2009. Unicycle Tour of India. Email me for details. www.induni.adventureunicyclist.com The Uninam Tour 2008.....Hanoi to Saigon!!! www.uninam.net The SINZ Unicycle Tour 2007....South Island, New Zealand www.sinzuni.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GizmoDuck's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/794 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
GizmoDuck;1167590 wrote: Hmmm...I reckon if you were to use it for MUni, you'd need a wider bar for leverage. And definitely a low down position as well. i think with a wider bar for muni you'll start turning the uni if you use only one hand, what i want ist just a handle across the two bar ends so i can pull with one hand like the handle on the uni-seats. maybe it has to be closer to the seat, than in my setup, but when i tried today i could pull pretty hard with one hand at the end of the handle... ...yes let my know how it worked out and if you hit also your ellbows with your knees... -- turtle -'platzangst' (http://www.platzangst.com/)- '-schlumpf-' (http://www.schlumpf.ch/) 'my vids' (http://de.youtube.com/user/Balzner) 'my pics' (http://picasaweb.google.de/einrad2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ turtle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11288 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
Hey, These are all really great ideas and it is cool that some are already working on it. Because a uni frame is free to hinge back and forth, we are always going to be sitting over the balance point, meaning of course that leaning forward onto a longer handle extended out the front will simply shift the angle of the frame back. Consequently, the rider position and weight distribution for an R or V frame should be exactly same as long as we are balanced over the wheel. Nice thing about the R frame approach is it completely eliminates the possibility of bashing your knees on the frame (assuming the saddle is directly over the frame); the V is geometrically stronger for a handle but I'm not yet sure that can't be solved with an R frame approach (or some hybrid of the two) since we don't also have to support a front wheel. It will be cool to see how all this pans out! Looking forward to see how Rick's V frame looks. Cheers, Kris -- danger_uni ------------------------------------------------------------------------ danger_uni's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/21 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
Man, it's been a while since I've posted here.. A neat thing about the R frame is that it will pack down into two small tubes, and if you're looking for versatility you can always convert it back to a 'normal' unicycle for if you're doing something more offroad or will need your hands or something. It's very cool to finally see a use for the tail on the T7, I'm not sure it really had one until now. Awesome going, Ken. -- flyer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ flyer's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/9894 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
I'm really interested to see how all these handle experiments pan out. I'm still doing research on my frame design(cut the drops and front fork off a road bike frame and fix the handlebars in place) As soon as i feel confident in the design I'm going to find a welder and see if I can't get a prototype made up. I don't see why we always have to think about how to bail off in a UPD, when I ride in a position to expect a UPD I almost always end up injuring my ankles or legs(haven't broken anything yet though thankfully.) My fastest ever UPD was at 22.5mph(36kph) and I was in a total road tuck came out of it with minor road rash and kept riding afterwards. I'll post up pictures of my frame when I finally get it mocked up. -- Ducttape '-*buy my shirts*-' (www.zazzle.com/ducttapesunicycle*) '*watch my videos*' (http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=ducttapesunicycle) '*uniman comics*' (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=53444) '*original thread for uniman*' (http://www.unicyclist.com/forums/showthread.php?t=49862) *'sigged quotes' (http://tinyurl.com/29b744)* ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Ducttape's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12006 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
danger_uni;1167726 wrote: Hey, These are all really great ideas and it is cool that some are already working on it. Because a uni frame is free to hinge back and forth, we are always going to be sitting over the balance point, meaning of course that leaning forward onto a longer handle extended out the front will simply shift the angle of the frame back. Consequently, the rider position and weight distribution for an R or V frame should be exactly same as long as we are balanced over the wheel. Nice thing about the R frame approach is it completely eliminates the possibility of bashing your knees on the frame (assuming the saddle is directly over the frame); the V is geometrically stronger for a handle but I'm not yet sure that can't be solved with an R frame approach (or some hybrid of the two) since we don't also have to support a front wheel. Kris Hi Kris, Regarding the T-frame approach using a KH36" frame....I think the knee bashing can be solved by angling it. I just need a bit more adjustment than what I have currently. So it looks less like a T and more like a -T- (slanted heavily). I still think an r-frame or 7-frame is essentially a weak design....long poles sticking out from the frame with no support vs two shorter ones of the T-frame. What you say is correct regarding balance point. You are still balanced over the axle, but your bum is pushed back when you arms are stretched out front. It lowers your centre of gravity which I find helps with stability at speed also. -- GizmoDuck The Induni Unicycle Tour 2009. Unicycle Tour of India. Email me for details. www.induni.adventureunicyclist.com The Uninam Tour 2008.....Hanoi to Saigon!!! www.uninam.net The SINZ Unicycle Tour 2007....South Island, New Zealand www.sinzuni.org ------------------------------------------------------------------------ GizmoDuck's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/794 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Road Unicycle Set-Up and T7 Handle Modification
@gizmo: do you never sleep? i still thik for taller persons a T frame is perfect, and if your weight is on your bottom and your hands the force goes direct down it is also strong enough. i think a "one-piece" T-Frame with adjustible seat and handlebar (forward, backward and up and down) would be great. btw: this thread is making me to want a geard 36" -- turtle -'platzangst' (http://www.platzangst.com/)- '-schlumpf-' (http://www.schlumpf.ch/) 'my vids' (http://de.youtube.com/user/Balzner) 'my pics' (http://picasaweb.google.de/einrad2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ turtle's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11288 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/75372 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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