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  #11  
Old November 16th 07, 05:27 AM posted to aus.bicycle
TimC
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On 2007-11-15, vaudegiant (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
The trip almost finished before it started due to some train problems
we had at Southern Cross. As the train pulled into the station, we
occupied the last 2 doorways. I was in one doorway with my bike and
heavily-laden trailer. My wife and the kids were at the other. As we
were getting off, the doors closed on the wheel of my trailer and I had
to drop my bike, force the doors open and then heave the trailer/bike
onto the platform. As I was doing this, the train started to pull away
from the platform. I then look up to see the train departing with my 10
year old daughter's bike stuck in the rear doors. When the doors closed,
they had closed on my daughters bike, with her trapped inside the train,
and the rest of us on the platform. My wife managed to get the doors
open enough for her to get out, but not the bike. My daughter fell to
the ground hurting her knee in the process, and we then all watched as
the train departed, smashing her bike against the fence at the end of
the platform. Trip barely started, 1 bike down and its early Sunday
morning.


**** mate.

The Age might be interested in a story too...

My bus driver doesn't even take off without peering behind him to
verify that the door has closed. Might just be that he doesn't trust
his bus

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Old November 16th 07, 05:31 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On 2007-11-16, TimC (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
On 2007-11-15, vaudegiant (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
The trip almost finished before it started due to some train problems
we had at Southern Cross. As the train pulled into the station, we
occupied the last 2 doorways. I was in one doorway with my bike and
heavily-laden trailer. My wife and the kids were at the other. As we
were getting off, the doors closed on the wheel of my trailer and I had
to drop my bike, force the doors open and then heave the trailer/bike
onto the platform. As I was doing this, the train started to pull away
from the platform. I then look up to see the train departing with my 10
year old daughter's bike stuck in the rear doors. When the doors closed,
they had closed on my daughters bike, with her trapped inside the train,
and the rest of us on the platform. My wife managed to get the doors
open enough for her to get out, but not the bike. My daughter fell to
the ground hurting her knee in the process, and we then all watched as
the train departed, smashing her bike against the fence at the end of
the platform. Trip barely started, 1 bike down and its early Sunday
morning.


**** mate.

The Age might be interested in a story too...

My bus driver doesn't even take off without peering behind him to
verify that the door has closed. Might just be that he doesn't trust
his bus


P.S.

They (and the ombudsman, if we are quaint enough not to have gotten
rid of him in a cost cutting excercise) would be interested in the
date, time, train and platform number too. Then they can trace it
back to the driver who ought to be out on his arse by tomorrow.

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TimC
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore."
-- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race
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Old November 16th 07, 05:43 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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On Nov 16, 3:31 pm, TimC -
astro.swin.edu.au wrote:
On 2007-11-16, TimC (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:



On 2007-11-15, vaudegiant (aka Bruce)
was almost, but not quite, entirely unlike tea:
The trip almost finished before it started due to some train problems
we had at Southern Cross. As the train pulled into the station, we
occupied the last 2 doorways. I was in one doorway with my bike and
heavily-laden trailer. My wife and the kids were at the other. As we
were getting off, the doors closed on the wheel of my trailer and I had
to drop my bike, force the doors open and then heave the trailer/bike
onto the platform. As I was doing this, the train started to pull away
from the platform. I then look up to see the train departing with my 10
year old daughter's bike stuck in the rear doors. When the doors closed,
they had closed on my daughters bike, with her trapped inside the train,
and the rest of us on the platform. My wife managed to get the doors
open enough for her to get out, but not the bike. My daughter fell to
the ground hurting her knee in the process, and we then all watched as
the train departed, smashing her bike against the fence at the end of
the platform. Trip barely started, 1 bike down and its early Sunday
morning.


**** mate.


The Age might be interested in a story too...


My bus driver doesn't even take off without peering behind him to
verify that the door has closed. Might just be that he doesn't trust
his bus


P.S.

They (and the ombudsman, if we are quaint enough not to have gotten
rid of him in a cost cutting excercise) would be interested in the
date, time, train and platform number too. Then they can trace it
back to the driver who ought to be out on his arse by tomorrow.

--
TimC
"I won! I won! I don't have to go to school anymore."
-- Eddy Merckx, after winning his first bike race



I'll think you'll find that connex advise you to travel at the front
of
the train if you are doing anything unusual. For example, you have a
pusher with a toddler, or a large object to move. This is so you are
close to the driver and he/she can see what's happening.

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Old November 16th 07, 09:46 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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AndrewJ Wrote:
I'll think you'll find that connex advise you to travel at the front
of
the train if you are doing anything unusual. For example, you have a
pusher with a toddler, or a large object to move. This is so you are
close to the driver and he/she can see what's happening.

I thought that was only for people who need a wheelchair ramp.
Regardless, the driver should be able to see the back and the front of
the train, well you'd hope anyway...


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Old November 16th 07, 11:29 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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Jono L wrote:
AndrewJ Wrote:
I'll think you'll find that connex advise you to travel at the front
of
the train if you are doing anything unusual. For example, you have a
pusher with a toddler, or a large object to move. This is so you are
close to the driver and he/she can see what's happening.

I thought that was only for people who need a wheelchair ramp.
Regardless, the driver should be able to see the back and the front of
the train, well you'd hope anyway...


As I pointed out earlier in the thread I strongly doubt that based on my
experience with how useful mirrors are in heavy vehicles.

G-S
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Old November 16th 07, 12:29 PM posted to aus.bicycle
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I'll think you'll find that connex advise you to travel at the front
of
the train if you are doing anything unusual. For example, you have a
pusher with a toddler, or a large object to move. This is so you are
close to the driver and he/she can see what's happening.


Normally we probably would have but as we had less than 30 mins to make
our connecting train and were told that we needed to have our gear ready
to load onto that train "at least" 30 mins prior to departure, we
travelled at the rear of the train so that we were close to the lifts that
would allow us to get off the platform quickly. Seems that when they
redesigned the 1 billion dollar train station, they removed those very
handy tunnels that connected platforms. Of course, we shouldn't have to
travel at the front, especially at 8am on a Sunday morning. Someone I
spoke to says that because of the pressure during weekdays for Connex to
stick to their timetables, they use the week-end services to try and boost
their percentages of trains on-time, and so they tend to depart stations
with haste.

We are waiting to hear what Connex have to say before we take it any
further.

Pat


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Old November 17th 07, 11:05 PM posted to aus.bicycle
Harry 'Snapper' Organ
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On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:31:16 GMT, "beerwolf"
wrote in aus.bicycle:

Gor blimey! Lucky it was the bike and not a person stuck in the door.
That's freakin' terrible! Don't those guys have mirrors they use to make
sure everything is safe before they take off??


Dreadful that it happened at all, and lucky the outcome was not worse.
Thanks to the OP for posting this - I'm paranoid about train doors when
travelling with bikes, and this validates my caution. Glad you're ok, please
inform as to the outcome with Connex.



Never had any trouble with the doors on the old red rattlers.


Regards
Harold

Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius
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Old November 18th 07, 02:26 AM posted to aus.bicycle
heh heh
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Harry 'Snapper' Organ wrote:
On Thu, 15 Nov 2007 11:31:16 GMT, "beerwolf"
wrote in aus.bicycle:

Gor blimey! Lucky it was the bike and not a person stuck in the door.
That's freakin' terrible! Don't those guys have mirrors they use to make
sure everything is safe before they take off??

Dreadful that it happened at all, and lucky the outcome was not worse.
Thanks to the OP for posting this - I'm paranoid about train doors when
travelling with bikes, and this validates my caution. Glad you're ok, please
inform as to the outcome with Connex.



Never had any trouble with the doors on the old red rattlers.


Regards
Harold

Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius


Did they even have doors?
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Old November 19th 07, 12:06 AM posted to aus.bicycle
Harry 'Snapper' Organ
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On Sun, 18 Nov 2007 12:26:18 +1100, heh heh not@here wrote in
aus.bicycle:


Never had any trouble with the doors on the old red rattlers.


Regards
Harold

Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius


Did they even have doors?


Oh yes, but unless it was bloody freezing no one ever attermpted to
shut them.


Regards
Harold

Tantum religio potuit suadere malorum - Lucretius
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Old November 20th 07, 05:49 AM posted to aus.bicycle
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AndrewJ Wrote:
I'll think you'll find that connex advise you to travel at the front
of
the train if you are doing anything unusual. For example, you have a
pusher with a toddler, or a large object to move. This is so you are
close to the driver and he/she can see what's happening.


Connex prefers that cyclists get on at the back of the train because
the front of the train's better for facilitating wheelchair access.

When someone who's in a wheelchair needs to board a train the driver
has to hop out to set up the ramp. Having the front carraige filled
with fit and able bodied cyclists makes that a bit difficult.


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EuanB

 




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