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Fixed Penalty Charge - for unicycling
im no law expert but... i no from GCSE law that unicycling is aloud everywhere unless its in the law which it isnt..in theory you could unicycle in a shopping centre if it said no i bikes cos its a uni not a bike be pedantic my friend -- gagtape WHAM! 'This is my myspace' (http://www.myspace.com/supernoodlay) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ gagtape's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14911 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61524 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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semach.the.monkey wrote: If it did go to court, and I was to turn up with my 20” Nimbus, and explain that I play hockey on it, and am probably more manoeuvrable than most pedestrians, do you think that the judge would see that in my favour? Or would they find CCTV footage, realise it’s not the same, and get me in more trouble? STM – in a very bad mood today I don't think you should argue that you are more manueverable than pedestrians, but I do think that you should argue that it was the safest thing to do for everyone around you. Clearly the car was in the way and staying on the road would have meant having to either get in the way of cars or if you dismounted you would have have to remount, and a unicyclist mounting a coker can often scare drivers so it would have impeded traffic. Then as for the people on the footpath, they were all well aware of you and you were aware of them, clearly nobody got in your way and you didn't get in other peoples way. Just argue that all in all it would have been way safer for everyoen if you went on the sidewalk. Mention things like not only is it dangerous for me on the road in situations like that but its also dangerous to drivers because you are such a distraction and they don't know what to do about you. I would also recomend you look up the laws for bikes. Usualy if they have laws for unicycles its in the same spot as bikes. Check local Bi-laws and Federal Laws. -- ntappin 'how to build a strong comfy saddle from junk.' (http://tinyurl.com/hxcb3) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ntappin's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/10800 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61524 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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semach.the.monkey wrote: Well, after riding several hundreds of miles through London in the last 2 years, I guess it was bound to happen sooner or later. But today I received a fixed penalty notice by the City Of London Police for cycling on a footpath. Well, after 3 weeks of procrastinating, contemplating and deliberating, I paid the fine today. I still stand by my belief that I did nothing wrong, and in the same circumstances I would do exactly the same again. However, I read everyones comments and opinions, and although some of it was not what I wanted to hear, I agree that for benefit of the community it'll be best to shut up and pay up. Keeping unicycling just under the legal radar works well for most of us most of the time. For what it's worth, the legal situation seems with this is split in to two parts. The first, is if a unicycle is allowed to cycle on a path. According to the 1835 Highways Act, a person shall be guilty of an offence if he "shall wilfully ride upon any footpath or causeway by the side of any road made or set apart for the use or accommodation of foot-passengers or shall wilfully lead or drive any carriage of any description upon any such footpath or causeway." Section 85 of the Local Government Act 1888 extended the definition of "carriage" to include "bicycles, tricycles, velocipedes and other similar machines.". So, this boils down to how similar a unicycle is to a bicycle. The second part is whether a Fixed Penalty Notice should have been issued in this circumstance. When this was introduced in 1999, Paul Boateng issued some guidelines which stated "The introduction of the fixed penalty is not aimed at responsible cyclists who sometimes feel obliged to use the pavement out of fear of traffic and who show consideration to other pavement users when doing so. Chief police officers, who are responsible for enforcement, acknowledge that many cyclists, particularly children and young people, are afraid to cycle on the road, sensitivity and careful use of police discretion is required." In my particular case, I believe that I was a responsible cyclist, although I was unable to show consideration to other pavement users because there were none around at the time. I'd like to thank those of you that sent me messages of support, including helpful links from anonymous sources. STM -- semach.the.monkey ------------------------------------------------------------------------ semach.the.monkey's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12078 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61524 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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gagtape wrote: im no law expert but... i no from GCSE law that unicycling is aloud everywhere unless its in the law which it isnt..in theory you could unicycle in a shopping centre if it said no i bikes cos its a uni not a bike be pedantic my friend i have tried that only got about 5 metres before getting yelled at i pointed out the mistake, i was on only one wheel, security didnt like it -- mcnuggets300 there's the right way, there's the wrong way, and there's my way pkplonker's got it right: ~''~ Unicycle for the Flying Spaghetti Monster ~''~ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ mcnuggets300's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/14980 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61524 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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wriggy wrote: You could spend on of the weeks money you save commuting on uni on joining the CTC then you will have access to free legal aid and third party insurance ( assuming they include unicycles ) My new membership card arrived today, along with a leaflet that I haven't seen before about CTC Third Party Insurance. It says: "You are covered if you are cycling on a cycle (unicyle, bicycle, tricycle, tandem or triplet) unless it is driven by mechanical power -*other than*- electric assistance." I keep meaning to join so now I've advised someone else to I guess I should really do it! Too right. Have you got round to it yet? -- Danny Colyer http://www.colyer.plus.com/danny/ "He who dares not offend cannot be honest." - Thomas Paine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Danny Colyer's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/11637 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61524 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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This stuff really bugs me... and it's so true about how manouevrable you are on a unicycle around pedestrians. Me and a few mates were told we could not ride in a carnival precession because it was dangerous and we were swerving in and out of people, which we accepted, ands moved to the path, only to find that the same PCSO told us to dismount again! Apparently it was ''busy'' (or not...), and if we did not dismount it would be a £25 fine. Outrageous! Sorry to hear about your trouble, sounds really unlucky -- jamessd My videos: http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rofwXXixjNQ http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=tn9kG5kNSzc Add me: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ jamessd's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/15102 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61524 Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- ** SPEED ** RETENTION ** COMPLETION ** ANONYMITY ** ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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habbywall;816845 wrote: What if your athiest? Or do they not make you swear on the bible over there? Touche! Just plead "not-insanity your highness" as you ride into court on your 20" and laugh histarically. What's with all the underwear spam in today's posts?!? How does a guest post here? -- joejumps4fun ~*Joey* www.geocities.com/jneigh4 www.youtube.com/jneigh www.vimeo.com/jneigh ------------------------------------------------------------------------ joejumps4fun's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/12476 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/61524 |
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