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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
LA bus drivers (and cops) do tend to be surly, but this is over the top:
http://laist.com/2007/09/24/hollywood_bus_d.php Matt O. |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
On Sep 25, 4:33 pm, Matt O'Toole wrote:
LA bus drivers (and cops) do tend to be surly, but this is over the top: http://laist.com/2007/09/24/hollywood_bus_d.php Matt O. I had a run in with a bus driver yesterday. He saw me coming across the top of a T intersection and decided I was of no consequence so he just pulled out in front of me. He had a yeild sign. I was forced to brake resonably hard and swerve so as not to broadside the bus. I gave him the finger, and turned around to give chase. It took some serious motoring on my part to catch him (rural area!) but when I did, he was ready for a "discussion". I decided to start out nice and give him an out by asking if he didn't see me due to the sun glare. He responded with that he was tired of cyclists who think they own the road. So I asked if that meant that because some other people are jerks it was ok to run me over. Then he said I didn't have reflectors (I have reflective tape) which is I think the standard bus driver response around here as I have heard others say they heard the same thing from jerk bus drivers. I stuck to my story asking him if he had a yeild sign, and if so he was supposed to yeild to me. He then claimed I was going too fast. The speed limit is 50km/h and I was lucky if I was doing 30 up the rise where the intersection is. He said I was doing 60. I said no way, if I could do 60 there I'd be down winning the world championships not sitting there arguing with him. He laughed. I then said I knew he wasn't going to admit it because it had to do with his job, etc, but that I knew that he knew I was at least partially right, and he shouldn't take it upon himself to give some cyclist a lesson because some other cyclists have been a problem for him. He sort of half nodded, and we went our seperate ways. I saw him again today and I waved. Joseph |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
On Sep 25, 9:05 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:
wrote: On Sep 25, 4:33 pm, Matt O'Toole wrote: LA bus drivers (and cops) do tend to be surly, but this is over the top: http://laist.com/2007/09/24/hollywood_bus_d.php Matt O. I had a run in with a bus driver yesterday. He saw me coming across the top of a T intersection and decided I was of no consequence so he just pulled out in front of me. He had a yeild sign. I was forced to brake resonably hard and swerve so as not to broadside the bus. I gave him the finger, and turned around to give chase. It took some serious motoring on my part to catch him (rural area!) but when I did, he was ready for a "discussion". I decided to start out nice and give him an out by asking if he didn't see me due to the sun glare. He responded with that he was tired of cyclists who think they own the road. So I asked if that meant that because some other people are jerks it was ok to run me over. Then he said I didn't have reflectors (I have reflective tape) which is I think the standard bus driver response around here as I have heard others say they heard the same thing from jerk bus drivers. I stuck to my story asking him if he had a yeild sign, and if so he was supposed to yeild to me. He then claimed I was going too fast. The speed limit is 50km/h and I was lucky if I was doing 30 up the rise where the intersection is. He said I was doing 60. I said no way, if I could do 60 there I'd be down winning the world championships not sitting there arguing with him. He laughed. I then said I knew he wasn't going to admit it because it had to do with his job, etc, but that I knew that he knew I was at least partially right, and he shouldn't take it upon himself to give some cyclist a lesson because some other cyclists have been a problem for him. He sort of half nodded, and we went our seperate ways. I saw him again today and I waved. Joseph In general, here in Chapel Hill NC the bus drivers are good with cyclists. However, I've had my share of run-ins with bus drivers over the years. They can be very aggressive with their vehicles, but those that are are also too stupid to realize that I can easily catch them at the next light. At that point we have a discussion, and I let them know I have their bus number and they will be reported. Then I go to the municipal bus offices and have a face to face with the boss. Wayne Actually around here the busses have been amongst the most thoughtful of drivers, so I was surprised at his "f*** you" move throwing the bus in front of me. There are only a handful of bus drivers (8-10?) that drive the routes I ride, and I'm sure they all recognize me. One bus driver is a neighbor, and another is a racer I ride with. Maybe this (new) guy will tell them about it back at the locker room or where ever, and they'll let him have it too! Joseph |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
I drive a school bus. I give bicyclists so much room .. you can't believe.
If I can't give the cyclist room, I wait till there is room. I have honked on occasion. I do this way back, so the cyclist isnt scared. This is just to tell the cyclist I'm coming along. While I hate to admit it, there are some cyclists who break the rules. I've come across a few who ride in the middle of the road when there is plenty of shoulder. In a city, dealing with city buses, I would not bother to yell at or confront the driver. It would be better to immediatly call the bus company, tell the dispatch or ask for a supervisor, and give them the bus number, etc. When you get home, write a letter, send it to the authority or transit company. Also send a copy to the police department, mayor, etc. Make sure a few agencies get the letter. This way they must respond to each other and eventually the bus company. The "cc" in a letter is a very powerful tool. =========================== "Matt O'Toole" wrote in message news LA bus drivers (and cops) do tend to be surly, but this is over the top: http://laist.com/2007/09/24/hollywood_bus_d.php Matt O. |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
Wayne Pein wrote:
In general, here in Chapel Hill NC the bus drivers are good with cyclists. However, I've had my share of run-ins with bus drivers over the years. They can be very aggressive with their vehicles, but those that are are also too stupid to realize that I can easily catch them at the next light. At that point we have a discussion, and I let them know I have their bus number and they will be reported. Then I go to the municipal bus offices and have a face to face with the boss. I was buzzed by a student shuttle bus on campus at my University. I called the office that runs the busses and reported the incident. You really don't need the bus #, just the time and place. They know who is there when. After I reported the incident it never happened again. Unfortunately we can't deal with drivers of cars the same way. -- David L. Johnson Some people used to claim that, if enough monkeys sat in front of enough typewriters and typed long enough, eventually one of them would reproduce the collected works of Shakespeare. The internet has proven this not to be the case. |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
On Sep 25, 9:33 am, Matt O'Toole wrote:
LA bus drivers (and cops) do tend to be surly, but this is over the top: http://laist.com/2007/09/24/hollywood_bus_d.php Matt O. It's a bit unwise to form an opinion on an incident based solely on the word of one of the participants. Somewhere there may be a post (in some LA Metro bus drivers NG undoubtedly) from this female bus driver generating all kinds of sympathy for *her* version of events... "This huge bearded guy on a bike just went berserk slapping the side of my bus as I passed him, shouting profanity at me, intentionally blocking the street, and threatening me and my passengers. Why, some of my passengers were so frightened they got off the bus and ran away! The police showed up but of course they let him go. Cyclists *always* get away with it." g Regards, Bob Hunt |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
In general it's poor practice for a bicyclist to escalate the
confrontation as much as the rider did in the article. Right or wrong, motor vehicles are much bigger than we are. Better to take down as much information as possible about the vehicle and report it later. |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
In general, here in Chapel Hill NC the bus drivers are good with cyclists. Yeah I have had good luck with them in Vancouver. I think they have an understanding, or at least and appreciation of cycling in traffic, as they get to deal with the most atrocious drivers all day long but aren't exposed at a personal risk to themselves. Byron |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
Although I sympathize with the cyclist, I take the basketball rule of
thumb to vehicular activity, that is, "no harm, no foul." Maybe, when I'm in a bad mood I'd flip'em off, but I'd never seek a confrontation. I mean there are jerks everywhere. Jerks on the road, at work, in public places, you can't educate them all. If you tried you might go postal. |
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Hollywood bus driver attacks cyclist, LAPD handcuffs cyclist
On Sep 27, 6:49 am, Kenny wrote:
Although I sympathize with the cyclist, I take the basketball rule of thumb to vehicular activity, that is, "no harm, no foul." Maybe, when I'm in a bad mood I'd flip'em off, but I'd never seek a confrontation. I mean there are jerks everywhere. Jerks on the road, at work, in public places, you can't educate them all. If you tried you might go postal. Close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades? Joseph |
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