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lou.holtman wrote:
On Tuesday, July 17, 2018 at 5:01:16 PM UTC+2, Joerg wrote: Then why do you ridicule my preparedness when you know that in our area MTB use is often required to get to certain places? It is hard not to ridicule your preparedness when 99% of us find your measurements heavily exaggerated. I don't go for a ride with the idea that I might have to save someone from dying. Fortunately for us we don"t meet those people. All those idiots bump into you. On the other hand I was stopped a couple of weeks ago by someone who had a flat and no spare or pump. I gave him a tube and spent a CO2 cartridge (I carry two of each). He insisted that I gave hime my bankaccount number so he could compensate me for the costs (6.5 euro for the tube and 1.50 euro for the CO2 cartridge). I'm still waiting. Next time he can use my phone to call a cab/his wife or he can walk... F*ck those cashless clowns! What, hand them your phone next time?? Next time, just take their rings, no weeny 27.5, only 585+! /streetsmarts -- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/video/news/video-1727744/Video-Moment-duty-cop-shoots-armed-motorbike-thief-dead.html |
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Duane writes:
On 18/07/2018 12:03 PM, Radey Shouman wrote: Duane writes: On 17/07/2018 6:46 PM, Joerg wrote: In the US we have a much nastier habit among weight weenie cyclists who probably find the weight of a paper tissue unbearable. So they don't carry any. When the nose gets plugged they press a finger against one side and let off a "snot rocket", then against the other for missile #2. I was almost hit by one when pulling out to pass a cyclist. It's disgusting. Yes, I'm sure it's the weight of the tissue that prevents these cyclists from using them. Maybe it's some guy coming up behind them with the tunes blaring and the bright headlight that invokes this behavior... I would much rather see the occasional tiny blob of snot on the road instead of blowing tissues. How and from where does one fish a dry tissue when riding along? Think of the trees, for God's sake. Yeah, but you don't live "out there" where things get really hairy. You're probably only riding in the pacific traffic on Comm Ave... I know some dogs that eagerly grab used tissues, I suppose the mountain lions might do the job out on the wild frontier. -- |
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On 7/18/2018 12:15 PM, jbeattie wrote:
I spit on tiny clown pumps -- no, I mean it. Sometimes the pump-handle/piston needs lubrication. I prefer the hose models, but all of them are a PITA and require about 200 strokes to get a tire up to pressure. I also carry CO2 cartridges and used both the pump and the cartridges last weekend due to a flat-fest with my son. I buy cheap cartridges in bulk from Amazon. Yes, the environmental impact of steel cartridges is bad . . . but they're so convenient! I scoffed at them until I started using them, but I would not go with CO2 alone. I always carry a pump. A couple years ago, after some health problems, I went on a club ride that was nearly too much for me. It was very hot, and I think my recent bronchitis was still constricting my breathing. I was fighting to keep up. As we were climbing on one of the more remote roads around here, one guy flatted. Normally I'm one of the chief flat fixers, but I lay my bike down, then lay myself down on its downhill side and propped my feet up on the handlebars, trying to get some strength back. Lucky for me, the repair was a disaster. They put in one spare tube, but it was leaking badly. They put another tube in and tried inflating it with CO2. The CO2 fitting somehow misfired. They wasted another CO2... and so on. I finally got up and gave them my full-size Zefal pump, the only inflating device I ever carry. (Except on the folding bike, where I have a mini pump stashed.) They succeeded with the Zefal. And I had recovered enough that I was OK the rest of the ride, and perfect after a Dairy Queen stop for a bunch of Mountain Dew. I think if I were to carry anything else on the bike, it would be Mountain Dew. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On 7/18/2018 12:54 PM, sms wrote:
On 7/18/2018 9:00 AM, Radey Shouman wrote: sms writes: I think the most ridiculous statement was that the bicycle paths all have a parking lot at each end. The ones around here sure don't. There are parking lots nearby some of the access points, in corporate locations, shopping areas, parks, and condo or apartment complexes, but these were not added for people to drive to the trail and park. The one I know of that does have parking lots along the way specifically for trail users is Sawyer Camp trail, though the parking lots are not at both ends, the northern end of the trail has no parking lot, though there is street parking close by. Different worlds, I guess.Â* Where to put the parking lots is a major bone of contention for any proposed MUP around here.Â* Nothing freezes the cockles of a New Englander's heart like thinking that someone, somewhere is parking at his expense, or that good for nothing bike-rack toting cars might clog up his business lot to no commercial purpose. One of our favorite rides is to start in Seaside, CA and ride to Carmel. Part of the route is on a very popular MUP, which is mostly used by cyclists except for the part that goes through the Fisherman's Wharf area of Monterey. We do drive there. There is no parking lot for the trail in Seaside, but there is plenty of street parking near most of the access points, and the shopping center not far from the beginning doesn't seem to mind if you park in the more remote sections of the lot. Even the popular Sawyer Camp Trail in San Mateo doesn't really have a parking lot that you drive into, they just carved out some limited street parking on the shoulders of Skyline Boulevard and Crystal Springs Road. It's a very popular area with not nearly enough parking. https://goo.gl/maps/6xn95KHvx6y. The salient point is not that there is a specially constructed parking lot at each end. Obviously, in some areas they may not have room to dedicate to a parking lot, so users park on the streets. The salient point is that the typical trail users (really, almost ALL trail users in almost all areas) use a car to haul their bike to the trail. On all trails within 30 miles of my home, there is almost exactly zero use of the trail for anything but out-and-back recreation. They park, offload the bike, ride out, ride back, then drive back home. Joerg, the master of "one example to the contrary," can doubtlessly provide a photo of a guy in a suit riding with a briefcase. But if I started posting photographs of the arrive-by-car, out-and-back crowd, I'd overfill the internet. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Wednesday, July 18, 2018 at 2:08:23 PM UTC-7, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/18/2018 12:15 PM, jbeattie wrote: I spit on tiny clown pumps -- no, I mean it. Sometimes the pump-handle/piston needs lubrication. I prefer the hose models, but all of them are a PITA and require about 200 strokes to get a tire up to pressure. I also carry CO2 cartridges and used both the pump and the cartridges last weekend due to a flat-fest with my son. I buy cheap cartridges in bulk from Amazon. Yes, the environmental impact of steel cartridges is bad . . . but they're so convenient! I scoffed at them until I started using them, but I would not go with CO2 alone. I always carry a pump. A couple years ago, after some health problems, I went on a club ride that was nearly too much for me. It was very hot, and I think my recent bronchitis was still constricting my breathing. I was fighting to keep up.. As we were climbing on one of the more remote roads around here, one guy flatted. Normally I'm one of the chief flat fixers, but I lay my bike down, then lay myself down on its downhill side and propped my feet up on the handlebars, trying to get some strength back. Lucky for me, the repair was a disaster. They put in one spare tube, but it was leaking badly. They put another tube in and tried inflating it with CO2. The CO2 fitting somehow misfired. They wasted another CO2... and so on. I finally got up and gave them my full-size Zefal pump, the only inflating device I ever carry. (Except on the folding bike, where I have a mini pump stashed.) They succeeded with the Zefal. And I had recovered enough that I was OK the rest of the ride, and perfect after a Dairy Queen stop for a bunch of Mountain Dew. I think if I were to carry anything else on the bike, it would be Mountain Dew. I can tell the same story, except with my clown pump -- and donettes. The Zefals don't fit on any of my bikes, and the thumb-locks go flaccid, so the lever flops out and hangs up on stuff. I have a Road Morph on my commuter which is a nice split the difference with a hose and teeny-tiny foot flap for operating the pump like a clown-sized floor pump. It also has a built in gauge, which is great if you have 20-10 vision. Lots of dopes waste CO2 cartridges and some are duds from the factory. Follow directions and they're great -- usually. But you only carry a few, and I bring a back-up pump. Many do not. If you're riding with a lot of people, you're usually O.K., so long as everyone is not a dope with no CO2 or pump. I guess the moral of the story is be careful picking your riding companions. IME, the most common other-people's flat repair problems is the failure to pack appropriate tubes -- like bringing tubes with a 32mm valve when you're riding 50mm aero wheels. I was riding on some ordinary box-section wheels with too-long stems that looked like ovipositors from some giant insect and had to pull my one of my tubes to give to a friend who was riding aero wheels and brought a short spare tube. I took his spare. It was kind of long process, and I did the work while he fended off mountain lion attacks, hunted for water and performed CPR on several nearby cyclists who had succumbed to heat prostitution. After that, we went to a nearby brew pub on a bike path and had a quadruple IPA that was excellent, but not as good as my home-brew. I don't know why professional brewers can't get it right. -- Jay Beattie. |
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On 2018-07-18 14:18, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 7/18/2018 12:54 PM, sms wrote: On 7/18/2018 9:00 AM, Radey Shouman wrote: sms writes: I think the most ridiculous statement was that the bicycle paths all have a parking lot at each end. The ones around here sure don't. There are parking lots nearby some of the access points, in corporate locations, shopping areas, parks, and condo or apartment complexes, but these were not added for people to drive to the trail and park. The one I know of that does have parking lots along the way specifically for trail users is Sawyer Camp trail, though the parking lots are not at both ends, the northern end of the trail has no parking lot, though there is street parking close by. Different worlds, I guess. Where to put the parking lots is a major bone of contention for any proposed MUP around here. Nothing freezes the cockles of a New Englander's heart like thinking that someone, somewhere is parking at his expense, or that good for nothing bike-rack toting cars might clog up his business lot to no commercial purpose. One of our favorite rides is to start in Seaside, CA and ride to Carmel. Part of the route is on a very popular MUP, which is mostly used by cyclists except for the part that goes through the Fisherman's Wharf area of Monterey. We do drive there. There is no parking lot for the trail in Seaside, but there is plenty of street parking near most of the access points, and the shopping center not far from the beginning doesn't seem to mind if you park in the more remote sections of the lot. Even the popular Sawyer Camp Trail in San Mateo doesn't really have a parking lot that you drive into, they just carved out some limited street parking on the shoulders of Skyline Boulevard and Crystal Springs Road. It's a very popular area with not nearly enough parking. https://goo.gl/maps/6xn95KHvx6y. The salient point is not that there is a specially constructed parking lot at each end. Obviously, in some areas they may not have room to dedicate to a parking lot, so users park on the streets. The salient point is that the typical trail users (really, almost ALL trail users in almost all areas) use a car to haul their bike to the trail. Not in Folsom, Rancho Cordova, Davis, et cetera. Why? Because they have bike infrastructure connection neighborhood, shopping areas and work places to the trail. In many other places your statement is true. Why? Because there is no bike infrastructure connecting to the trail and almost all cyclists hate to ride in the lane. We have mixed commuters which use car - bike or car - light rail - bike. Most use the car because it's eitehr to far or there is a lack of bike infrastructure. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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On 2018-07-18 09:03, Radey Shouman wrote:
Duane writes: On 17/07/2018 6:46 PM, Joerg wrote: In the US we have a much nastier habit among weight weenie cyclists who probably find the weight of a paper tissue unbearable. So they don't carry any. When the nose gets plugged they press a finger against one side and let off a "snot rocket", then against the other for missile #2. I was almost hit by one when pulling out to pass a cyclist. It's disgusting. Yes, I'm sure it's the weight of the tissue that prevents these cyclists from using them. Maybe it's some guy coming up behind them with the tunes blaring and the bright headlight that invokes this behavior... I would much rather see the occasional tiny blob of snot on the road instead of blowing tissues. How and from where does one fish a dry tissue when riding along? Think of the trees, for God's sake. I get mine out of a wonderful invention from of old: A pocket. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ |
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Joerg writes:
On 2018-07-18 09:03, Radey Shouman wrote: Duane writes: On 17/07/2018 6:46 PM, Joerg wrote: In the US we have a much nastier habit among weight weenie cyclists who probably find the weight of a paper tissue unbearable. So they don't carry any. When the nose gets plugged they press a finger against one side and let off a "snot rocket", then against the other for missile #2. I was almost hit by one when pulling out to pass a cyclist. It's disgusting. Yes, I'm sure it's the weight of the tissue that prevents these cyclists from using them. Maybe it's some guy coming up behind them with the tunes blaring and the bright headlight that invokes this behavior... I would much rather see the occasional tiny blob of snot on the road instead of blowing tissues. How and from where does one fish a dry tissue when riding along? Think of the trees, for God's sake. I get mine out of a wonderful invention from of old: A pocket. Seriously? They don't get all damp and sweaty and ground into pieces? Pockets work for old fashioned handkerchiefs, not so much for tissues, in my experience. -- |
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On 7/18/2018 9:52 PM, Radey Shouman wrote:
Pockets work for old fashioned handkerchiefs, not so much for tissues, in my experience. We've been riding the tandem a lot. My wife/stoker likes to stuff the back pockets of my jersey with tissues. My only chance for revenge is to forget they're there when I toss the jersey in the laundry. When they get washed, tissue lint spreads everywhere in the load of wash. She gets to clean that mess. -- - Frank Krygowski |
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On Tue, 17 Jul 2018 07:56:20 -0700, Joerg
wrote: On 2018-07-16 18:42, John B. Slocomb wrote: On Mon, 16 Jul 2018 19:33:37 -0400, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/16/2018 1:41 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-07-16 10:23, Frank Krygowski wrote: On 7/16/2018 1:19 PM, Joerg wrote: On 2018-07-16 09:08, jbeattie wrote: On Monday, July 16, 2018 at 7:56:37 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote: On 2018-07-15 15:01, jbeattie wrote: [...] We met at a coffee shop this morning, but I didn't partake. Got up to 95F, and I ran out of water, so I stopped at a market with my cohorts. Also stopped for a little ferry. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEfIcrKZesw&t=3s What a beautiful day it was. No pubs. Yesterday was a death ride with my son, and no pubs -- although I did have a beer at home, and Tylenol. Obviously two no-fun rides because they didn't involve a pub of any kind. Somewhere between 95-100F yesterday, did a 20-miler after church. http://mikebikehike.com/wp-content/u...6/IMG_0140.jpg No, this ain't my bike. In contrast to some here who find that "unusual" lots of people in our area ride with panniers. For longer rides in hilly terrain without water spigots there is no alternative other that schlepping a hydration pack which will result in profuse sweating. Or drink American River water and get E-Coli. Oh, and I had an IPA on the way back 8-) Again, you're mixing road and trail. That's a road bike with panniers with probably 28mm tires and, gasp, ordinary rim brakes. It's not going trail riding any time soon. I have Nashbar Daytrekker panniers on both my road bike and my MTB. I don't think it's unusual to see road bikes with panniers. I probably saw 20-30 cyclists with panniers on the way to work this morning. I think its unusual to need panniers with tons of junk in them for a recreational weekend ride with friends, and in your case, drinking at a pub. It is when you find another rider bleeding and in need of something to stop that. Because riding a bike is so damned dangerous, one comes across bleeding riders nearly every day!! A few times a year. They aren't always cyclists. Well, at least ALL your "Danger! Danger!" isn't applied to cyclists. Yeah, right, it's just hikers so they are not important? Many of the dehydrated people I found were hikers that I encountered on my MTB. Which is actually helpful because since I modified the back I can easily carry over a gallon of water on the MTB. Is that not worth it in your opinion? You'd just bid them a good day and leave? I sure don't. As the scouts say, be prepared, always. I've seen only a tiny amount of bleeding in over 45 years of adult cycling. And the "bleeding" I've seen would be better described as seeping - specifically, the little bit of blood that comes from minor road rash. What do I carry on my bike to prepare for that? Precisely nothing. My wife tends to worry a bit more than I do, and when attending a certain medical seminar she was once given a tiny, near useless first aid kit. She carried it in her bike bag for years and never used it. She finally ditched it. But we have no mountain lions around here, and our coyotes seem quite timid. You would not believe how often my "excess baggage" has saved the day for others with serious signs of dehydration and zero ounces in their bottles. You're right about that: I would not believe. Unless, that is, you're going to give us a very, very low number. One guy (on a hike in Yosemite) would most likely not have made it if it wasn't for a large excess stash of water and food in our backpacks. ... A Chinese tourist in Grand Canyon ran out of water and gave up on the trail, in the glistening sun. Just wanted to "stay there". I have her a lot of water and food until she perked up. Oh, silly me. I thought we were talking about bicycling! How strange. Over here the Chinese tourists all travel in groups on pre-arranged tours. There are two reasons for this, firstly some of the more remote Chinese dialects probably won't be understood outside their local regions and secondly that the Chinese, like the Japanese before them, tend to be on prepaid tours. Pay the full amount of the tour tour cost before you depart and enjoy a fun filled, jam packed, vacation with every minute supervised by the tour guide. We recently had a tour boat sink in Phuket and a number of Chinese were drowned. The next morning the news announced that 27,000 Chinese had cancelled their visit to Phuket. They seem to act as groups. Wandering about alone and getting dehydrated just doesn't seem to happen with the Chinese here. Strange that they are so different in America. Or perhaps they aren't. After all he quotes the Chinese saying "I wanna stay here" something that would be impossible with a real Chinese Tour member as he wouldn't have spoken English and if he were speaking the kind of Chinese that you hear in N.E. Thailand it would sound much like "Koi Yak Hi Chow You Mong Me". But then the Chinese have figured in some of the more imaginative writing. Remember Fu Manchu and the Yellow Peril ? Believe it or not but there are Chinese who do speak English. There are also Chinese who vacation like we used to, landing, renting a car and heading out, sans pre-reserved hotel beds. Many did it like us, reserving only the first and last night at a hotel near the airport. We met many of them during our trips. Of course there are. However on a proportion basis the vast bulk of the Chinese "tourists", my guess is in the 90% range, are on these prepaid tours. And the vast bulk do not speak a foreign language. There are people in this world who, like us, can't stand being cooped up in a tour bus and being told "Hurry, we've only got 20 minutes here". -- Cheers, John B. |
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