public policy theory discovers bicycles

On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf



Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume.
If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.

You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip
foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to
pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the
alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from
Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the
other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE
SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal
snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in
Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a
bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html
$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill
yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire
tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike
tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get
them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed
signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared to
where we lived before. That finances bike path among other things and
it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that on fat
pensions and union boondoggles.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf



Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume.
If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.

You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip
foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to
pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the
alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from
Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the
other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE
SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal
snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in
Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a
bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html
$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill
yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire
tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike
tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get
them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed
signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared to
where we lived before. That finances bike path among other things and
it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that on fat
pensions and union boondoggles.

O.K., so where does the money come from? Trees? Property taxes typically don't fund transportation infrastructure, unless you guys passed a bond for bike paths. I doubt that has happened, but who knows -- see if it is a line item on your property tax statement. In your area, funding probably comes from extorting developers, user fees, parking meters, allocated funds from the state, bake sales, church rummage sales and telethons.

The proposed tax on bike tires is a federal excise tax, and that tax would go into the Highway Trust Fund along with gas taxes and car battery taxes, car tire taxes, etc. The Highway Trust Fund may fund certain "transportation alternatives" involving bicycle infrastructure, but those TAs are generally considered frivolous by the Republican administration -- so don't expect your tire tax money to be building a bike path near you anytime soon. DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your money and not giving you a path.

Watching the TdF makes me want to move to France . . . to one of those beautiful little towns where it is not clear what anyone does for a living. No strip malls. No I-80. Just picturesque monasteries and winding roads with no traffic -- except for bicycles and support vehicles, and maybe some people dressed up like the devil. I can't imagine why you would give up the Bavarian Alps -- Alphorn and lederhosen -- for Cameron Park.

-- Jay Beattie.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 7/26/2018 7:19 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf



Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume.
If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.

You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip
foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to
pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the
alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from
Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the
other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE
SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal
snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in
Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a
bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html
$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill
yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire
tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike
tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get
them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed
signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared to
where we lived before. That finances bike path among other things and
it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that on fat
pensions and union boondoggles.

O.K., so where does the money come from? Trees? Property taxes typically don't fund transportation infrastructure, unless you guys passed a bond for bike paths. I doubt that has happened, but who knows -- see if it is a line item on your property tax statement. In your area, funding probably comes from extorting developers, user fees, parking meters, allocated funds from the state, bake sales, church rummage sales and telethons.

The proposed tax on bike tires is a federal excise tax, and that tax would go into the Highway Trust Fund along with gas taxes and car battery taxes, car tire taxes, etc. The Highway Trust Fund may fund certain "transportation alternatives" involving bicycle infrastructure, but those TAs are generally considered frivolous by the Republican administration -- so don't expect your tire tax money to be building a bike path near you anytime soon. DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your money and not giving you a path.

Watching the TdF makes me want to move to France . . . to one of those beautiful little towns where it is not clear what anyone does for a living. No strip malls. No I-80. Just picturesque monasteries and winding roads with no traffic -- except for bicycles and support vehicles, and maybe some people dressed up like the devil. I can't imagine why you would give up the Bavarian Alps -- Alphorn and lederhosen -- for Cameron Park.


I don't disagree with you overall but a bicycle tire excise
tax could be viewed as catch up since the non-highway
portion of the Highway Trust Fund has grown like Topsy on HGO.

Nothing on heaven or earth is going to rid that fund of it's
real problems, viz.,

-Original engineering spec of the Interstate system was 50
year life. Now that every contractor has achieved
enlightenment, we're below 12 years life on average and
dropping.

-'Prevailing wage', which is higher than the prevailing
wage. Davis-Bacon has its roots in the discovery in New York
in 1931 that black labor did a better job in construction
for lower wages. Shamefully, it's still law.

-not only kiddie bicycle paths but HTF also diverts into
financially indefensible urban bus and train systems which
are so badly run they make Beirut look like Zurich.

-Denny The Pervert Hastert rerouted an Interstate when he
was Speaker to access land in central Illinois he bought
cheap and flipped profitably after the route changed. Not an
isolated case by any means.

-I'm sure we all have our favorite examples as there are so
many from which to choose.

In theory taxing tires ought to mean taxing all tires. I get
that. But in practice every dime allows the least among us
to go out into the world and do evil in my name.


--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

On Thu, 26 Jul 2018 19:43:44 -0500, AMuzi wrote:

On 7/26/2018 7:19 PM, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf



Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung volume.
If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and nose shut.

You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not skip
foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US have to
pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price -- like the
alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly from
Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty and the
other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee. YOU'RE
SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The liberal
snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you -- except in
Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate sales tax is a
bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html
$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a bill
yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on the tire
tax. https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the bike
tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we can get
them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog and mixed
signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared to
where we lived before. That finances bike path among other things and
it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that on fat
pensions and union boondoggles.

O.K., so where does the money come from? Trees? Property taxes typically don't fund transportation infrastructure, unless you guys passed a bond for bike paths. I doubt that has happened, but who knows -- see if it is a line item on your property tax statement. In your area, funding probably comes from extorting developers, user fees, parking meters, allocated funds from the state, bake sales, church rummage sales and telethons.

The proposed tax on bike tires is a federal excise tax, and that tax would go into the Highway Trust Fund along with gas taxes and car battery taxes, car tire taxes, etc. The Highway Trust Fund may fund certain "transportation alternatives" involving bicycle infrastructure, but those TAs are generally considered frivolous by the Republican administration -- so don't expect your tire tax money to be building a bike path near you anytime soon. DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your money and not giving you a path.

Watching the TdF makes me want to move to France . . . to one of those beautiful little towns where it is not clear what anyone does for a living. No strip malls. No I-80. Just picturesque monasteries and winding roads with no traffic -- except for bicycles and support vehicles, and maybe some people dressed up like the devil. I can't imagine why you would give up the Bavarian Alps -- Alphorn and lederhosen -- for Cameron Park.


I don't disagree with you overall but a bicycle tire excise
tax could be viewed as catch up since the non-highway
portion of the Highway Trust Fund has grown like Topsy on HGO.

Nothing on heaven or earth is going to rid that fund of it's
real problems, viz.,

-Original engineering spec of the Interstate system was 50
year life. Now that every contractor has achieved
enlightenment, we're below 12 years life on average and
dropping.

-'Prevailing wage', which is higher than the prevailing
wage. Davis-Bacon has its roots in the discovery in New York
in 1931 that black labor did a better job in construction
for lower wages. Shamefully, it's still law.

-not only kiddie bicycle paths but HTF also diverts into
financially indefensible urban bus and train systems which
are so badly run they make Beirut look like Zurich.

-Denny The Pervert Hastert rerouted an Interstate when he
was Speaker to access land in central Illinois he bought
cheap and flipped profitably after the route changed. Not an
isolated case by any means.


Wazza matter you? Don't you think that an individual who works hard
should be compensated? And politics is an exhausting game. You gotta
raise the original stake; run for election .. and win.. and then
satisy all of your financial supporters. It's not all just sitting in
back rooms and smokiing big ciggars.




-I'm sure we all have our favorite examples as there are so
many from which to choose.

In theory taxing tires ought to mean taxing all tires. I get
that. But in practice every dime allows the least among us
to go out into the world and do evil in my name.

On 2018-07-26 17:19, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf





Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung
volume. If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and
nose shut.

You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not
skip foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US
have to pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price --
like the alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly
from Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty
and the other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee.
YOU'RE SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The
liberal snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you --
except in Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate
sales tax is a bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html


$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a
bill yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on
the tire tax.
https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the
bike tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we
can get them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog
and mixed signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared
to where we lived before. That finances bike path among other
things and it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that
on fat pensions and union boondoggles.

O.K., so where does the money come from? Trees? Property taxes
typically don't fund transportation infrastructure, unless you guys
passed a bond for bike paths. I doubt that has happened, but who
knows -- see if it is a line item on your property tax statement. In
your area, funding probably comes from extorting developers, user
fees, parking meters, allocated funds from the state, bake sales,
church rummage sales and telethons.


It also comes from developer fees, of course. Cities such as Folsom
where leaders are smarter than elsewhere have instituted rules that
traffic mitigation must include bicycle riders and pedestrians. For
smaller projects the developers get away with bike lanes, for larger
ones they must provide class I paths. That then spills over to
neighboring communties because their leaders see all this work well. I
thoroughly enjoyed the results yesterday again like I do almost every
week. On my road bike. Of the 41mi trip there were, at most, 2mi on
roads without bike lanes.


The proposed tax on bike tires is a federal excise tax, and that tax
would go into the Highway Trust Fund along with gas taxes and car
battery taxes, car tire taxes, etc. The Highway Trust Fund may fund
certain "transportation alternatives" involving bicycle
infrastructure, but those TAs are generally considered frivolous by
the Republican administration


If paid for with gas taxes bike paths shall not be a priority. When a
highway is built that cust off cyclists from their usual access to an
area though altenatives must be provided. Mitigation is the word.


... -- so don't expect your tire tax money
to be building a bike path near you anytime soon.


If tax is collected from bicycle tire sales then that shall be used for
bike infrastructure.


... DONALD TRUMP IS
AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your money and not giving you
a path.


He is not. The tax reform alone was a major success. I could not believe
the barrage of project requests I received as a consultant since January
this year. It just comes at the wrong time in life for me as I am trying
to reduce my project load, easing towards retirement. More brewing, more
riding.


Watching the TdF makes me want to move to France . . . to one of
those beautiful little towns where it is not clear what anyone does
for a living. No strip malls. No I-80. Just picturesque monasteries
and winding roads with no traffic -- except for bicycles and support
vehicles, and maybe some people dressed up like the devil. I can't
imagine why you would give up the Bavarian Alps -- Alphorn and
lederhosen -- for Cameron Park.


Look at the whole picture before making the move.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXG3MF4DMqY

Also, avoid cycling on Routes Nationales. I have seen big rig drivers at
truck stops ordering wine with lunch. A bottle. No, not a demi-bouteille
but the whole 750ml. At the end of lunch that bottle was either all
empty or mostly (and they took the rest with them), then they hopped
back into the truck and fired up the big Diesel.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:52:13 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-26 17:19, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf





Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung
volume. If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and
nose shut.

You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not
skip foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US
have to pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price --
like the alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly
from Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty
and the other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee.
YOU'RE SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The
liberal snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you --
except in Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate
sales tax is a bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html


$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a
bill yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on
the tire tax.
https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the
bike tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we
can get them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog
and mixed signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared
to where we lived before. That finances bike path among other
things and it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that
on fat pensions and union boondoggles.

O.K., so where does the money come from? Trees? Property taxes
typically don't fund transportation infrastructure, unless you guys
passed a bond for bike paths. I doubt that has happened, but who
knows -- see if it is a line item on your property tax statement. In
your area, funding probably comes from extorting developers, user
fees, parking meters, allocated funds from the state, bake sales,
church rummage sales and telethons.


It also comes from developer fees, of course. Cities such as Folsom
where leaders are smarter than elsewhere have instituted rules that
traffic mitigation must include bicycle riders and pedestrians. For
smaller projects the developers get away with bike lanes, for larger
ones they must provide class I paths. That then spills over to
neighboring communties because their leaders see all this work well. I
thoroughly enjoyed the results yesterday again like I do almost every
week. On my road bike. Of the 41mi trip there were, at most, 2mi on
roads without bike lanes.


The proposed tax on bike tires is a federal excise tax, and that tax
would go into the Highway Trust Fund along with gas taxes and car
battery taxes, car tire taxes, etc. The Highway Trust Fund may fund
certain "transportation alternatives" involving bicycle
infrastructure, but those TAs are generally considered frivolous by
the Republican administration


If paid for with gas taxes bike paths shall not be a priority. When a
highway is built that cust off cyclists from their usual access to an
area though altenatives must be provided. Mitigation is the word.


... -- so don't expect your tire tax money
to be building a bike path near you anytime soon.


If tax is collected from bicycle tire sales then that shall be used for
bike infrastructure.


... DONALD TRUMP IS
AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your money and not giving you
a path.


He is not. The tax reform alone was a major success. I could not believe
the barrage of project requests I received as a consultant since January
this year. It just comes at the wrong time in life for me as I am trying
to reduce my project load, easing towards retirement. More brewing, more
riding.

I'm a clear loser under the Trump tax plan which means that I am subsidizing you. Welfare queen! It will take me a year or two before I can truly game the system and get in on the pass-through boondoggle. The real shoe will drop when all the temporary cuts are reversed -- except the corporate rate -- to pay off the ballooning debt. Then you will see a huge wealth-shift to stake-holders in pass through entities, and specifically, Donald Trump. The tax plan was basically written for him. Yet another reason for buying income producing real estate and running it through a LLC.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 2018-07-27 08:38, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:52:13 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-26 17:19, jbeattie wrote:

[...]


... DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your
money and not giving you a path.


He is not. The tax reform alone was a major success. I could not
believe the barrage of project requests I received as a consultant
since January this year. It just comes at the wrong time in life
for me as I am trying to reduce my project load, easing towards
retirement. More brewing, more riding.

I'm a clear loser under the Trump tax plan which means that I am
subsidizing you.


Because you can't deduct the full Oregon income tax anymore? Why should
the rest of the country subsidize left-leaning states in the first
place? That never made sense.


... Welfare queen! It will take me a year or two before
I can truly game the system and get in on the pass-through
boondoggle. The real shoe will drop when all the temporary cuts are
reversed -- except the corporate rate -- to pay off the ballooning
debt. Then you will see a huge wealth-shift to stake-holders in pass
through entities, and specifically, Donald Trump. The tax plan was
basically written for him. Yet another reason for buying income
producing real estate and running it through a LLC.


I am well past the stage where I'd enjoy direct biz tax benefits. We'd
have needed someone like Trump 10 years ago. So no welfare for me.
However, I thoroughly enjoy seeing anyone who honestly wants to work
actually ... getting work.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:05:48 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-27 08:38, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:52:13 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-26 17:19, jbeattie wrote:

[...]


... DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your
money and not giving you a path.


He is not. The tax reform alone was a major success. I could not
believe the barrage of project requests I received as a consultant
since January this year. It just comes at the wrong time in life
for me as I am trying to reduce my project load, easing towards
retirement. More brewing, more riding.

I'm a clear loser under the Trump tax plan which means that I am
subsidizing you.


Because you can't deduct the full Oregon income tax anymore? Why should
the rest of the country subsidize left-leaning states in the first
place? That never made sense.


Are you nuts? Why should anyone pay tax on tax? The notion of paying tax on tax has rankled true conservatives for years. Conservatives hated the AMT.. I can see cutting out the mortgage deduction, but making me pay tax on money I never see . . . really? This was a punish-your-enemies move.

Read the tax plan -- it targets a very specific demographic for upside and downside. It is one of the retaliatory pieces of legislation I have seen. Not just misguided or expensive like much legislation, but a clear stick in the eye to middle-income blue-staters.

-- Jay Beattie.

On 27/07/2018 11:38 AM, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:52:13 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-26 17:19, jbeattie wrote:
On Thursday, July 26, 2018 at 4:30:12 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 17:10, jbeattie wrote:
On Tuesday, July 24, 2018 at 3:59:35 PM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-24 06:05, AMuzi wrote:
Section #114 he

https://transportation.house.gov/upl...y_section_.pdf





Which is roughly the level of current motor vehicle tire tax, a fixture
of Federal budgets since 1918.


That'll create lots of jobs. In Thailand and China.


... I'll hold my breath for the Skateboard Wheel Tax.


How about a shoe tax? And a CO2 tax per cubic-inch of lung
volume. If not paid some government goon will tape mouth and
nose shut.

You want all that infrastructure including bike paths and lanes.
Somebody's got to pay for it. An excise tax on tires will not
skip foreign manufactured goods. Sellers of those goods in the US
have to pay the tax, and it gets passed on to you in the price --
like the alcohol and tobacco taxes. If you import tires directly
from Thailand, it gets collected by CBP along with custom duty
and the other border add-ons like the Merchandise Processing Fee.
YOU'RE SCREWED! Donald Trump is personally screwing you. The
liberal snowflakes love bike tires and would not screw you --
except in Oregon where the ONLY consumer product with a separate
sales tax is a bicycle.
https://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-n...e_only_bi.html


$15 smackers. But no tire tax. You can even open-carry your tires in
Oregon.

The good news is that the posted discussion draft isn't even a
bill yet. The commie liberals from Oregon will put the brakes on
the tire tax.
https://blumenauer.house.gov/congressional-bike-caucus Call me
Earl. I actually know Earl and will tell him to stand up to the
bike tire tax! No bike tire tax!! (continue chanting). Maybe we
can get them to tax something else, like wood pellets or analog
and mixed signal circuit designs.


No new taxes. We pay about 10x the amount of property tax compared
to where we lived before. That finances bike path among other
things and it's enough.

Give the state more "revenue" and they will quickly squander that
on fat pensions and union boondoggles.

O.K., so where does the money come from? Trees? Property taxes
typically don't fund transportation infrastructure, unless you guys
passed a bond for bike paths. I doubt that has happened, but who
knows -- see if it is a line item on your property tax statement. In
your area, funding probably comes from extorting developers, user
fees, parking meters, allocated funds from the state, bake sales,
church rummage sales and telethons.


It also comes from developer fees, of course. Cities such as Folsom
where leaders are smarter than elsewhere have instituted rules that
traffic mitigation must include bicycle riders and pedestrians. For
smaller projects the developers get away with bike lanes, for larger
ones they must provide class I paths. That then spills over to
neighboring communties because their leaders see all this work well. I
thoroughly enjoyed the results yesterday again like I do almost every
week. On my road bike. Of the 41mi trip there were, at most, 2mi on
roads without bike lanes.


The proposed tax on bike tires is a federal excise tax, and that tax
would go into the Highway Trust Fund along with gas taxes and car
battery taxes, car tire taxes, etc. The Highway Trust Fund may fund
certain "transportation alternatives" involving bicycle
infrastructure, but those TAs are generally considered frivolous by
the Republican administration


If paid for with gas taxes bike paths shall not be a priority. When a
highway is built that cust off cyclists from their usual access to an
area though altenatives must be provided. Mitigation is the word.


... -- so don't expect your tire tax money
to be building a bike path near you anytime soon.


If tax is collected from bicycle tire sales then that shall be used for
bike infrastructure.


... DONALD TRUMP IS
AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing your money and not giving you
a path.


He is not. The tax reform alone was a major success. I could not believe
the barrage of project requests I received as a consultant since January
this year. It just comes at the wrong time in life for me as I am trying
to reduce my project load, easing towards retirement. More brewing, more
riding.

I'm a clear loser under the Trump tax plan which means that I am subsidizing you. Welfare queen! It will take me a year or two before I can truly game the system and get in on the pass-through boondoggle. The real shoe will drop when all the temporary cuts are reversed -- except the corporate rate -- to pay off the ballooning debt. Then you will see a huge wealth-shift to stake-holders in pass through entities, and specifically, Donald Trump. The tax plan was basically written for him. Yet another reason for buying income producing real estate and running it through a LLC.

-- Jay Beattie.



The shoe will drop for me soon since I will shortly be looking to cash
in on those "entitlements" that I've been paying for for the last 40
years. Speaking of welfare queens... As long as they don't grab my SS
money to pay the 12 billion for the farmers that they screwed with the
easily won trade war that trump started.

They've already moved the bar to collect and they seem to be passing
bills to whittle away at it further while everyone is distracted by
trump's constant noise.

On 2018-07-27 09:44, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 9:05:48 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-27 08:38, jbeattie wrote:
On Friday, July 27, 2018 at 7:52:13 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2018-07-26 17:19, jbeattie wrote:

[...]


... DONALD TRUMP IS AGAIN SCREWING YOU PERSONALLY! Stealing
your money and not giving you a path.


He is not. The tax reform alone was a major success. I could
not believe the barrage of project requests I received as a
consultant since January this year. It just comes at the wrong
time in life for me as I am trying to reduce my project load,
easing towards retirement. More brewing, more riding.

I'm a clear loser under the Trump tax plan which means that I am
subsidizing you.


Because you can't deduct the full Oregon income tax anymore? Why
should the rest of the country subsidize left-leaning states in the
first place? That never made sense.


Are you nuts? Why should anyone pay tax on tax?


You don't. This would be fair: You pay x percent on you full AGI in
Oregon and then xx percent to Uncle Sam. It is not Uncle Sam's fault
when some states and sometimes even cities take an additional cut.
People have the option to move to places where that isn't the case.


... The notion of paying
tax on tax has rankled true conservatives for years. Conservatives
hated the AMT. I can see cutting out the mortgage deduction, but
making me pay tax on money I never see . . . really? This was a
punish-your-enemies move.


So please explain: Why does Oregon not let you deduct your federal tax
payment to calculate what you must pay to the folks in Salem?


Read the tax plan -- it targets a very specific demographic for
upside and downside. It is one of the retaliatory pieces of
legislation I have seen. Not just misguided or expensive like much
legislation, but a clear stick in the eye to middle-income
blue-staters.


Nope. They are free to move to states with better fiscal behavior. I
live in a blue state but I fully understand that a guy in WA state
(another blue state!) is not willing to subsidize me by giving me a tax
break that he doesn't get and doesn't need. So how exactly is this
disfavoring middle-income blue staters?

Move to the blue state of WA. That fixes your problem. But you'd have to
by more rain coats for cycling.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/