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The Ronde
So, for those of us that rode the Ronde van Vlanderam cycle sportif, how
was it for you? I had an excellent time, riding the 140km course in glorious sun. Bouncing off the cobbles took some getting used to (there were 17km of cobbles on the route) but once I'd realised that the way to do it is to relax, let the bike do what it wants and just keep pedaling, all was well. I'll be writing up a proper report at some point which I'll post here. If anyone is interested, there's a picture of me reccying the Murr du Gramont on the Friday http://www.clune.org/murr_close.jpg (that bit is about 1:5 though it doesn't show on the photo). Kit wise, the other guys I rode with took 24mm Vittoria Pave tyres. I rode my normal 23 mm race tyres and 38/25 bottom gear and had no problems. I the wet I might have wanted differnet tyres though. There was a fair range of equipment being ridden round from old clunkers to superlight race bikes to mtbs. I had to walk up the Koppenburg, but that wasn't due to lack of gears or fitness. Halfway up, where it gets steep five (count em!) riders just fell off in a line in front of me, totally blocking the road. I got a foot down and didn't fall, but becuase I'd stopped suddenly five riders behind me fell off as well! The sheer weight of riders on the climbs was amazing. And of course, once you've stopped on a 1:5 cobbled climb, there's no hope of getting going again... Arthur -- Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt Don't get me wrong, perl is an OK operating system, but it lacks a lightweight scripting language -- Walter Dnes |
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Arthur Clune wrote:
http://www.clune.org/murr_close.jpg That's almost exactly where my chain came off when it overshot the small chainring, on Easter Sunday last year. The Belgian roadie behind me was /most/ put out... -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ World Domination? Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine) |
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Arthur Clune wrote:
So, for those of us that rode the Ronde van Vlanderam cycle sportif, how was it for you? A top weekend... In our usual 'organised' style we piled on the Eurostar Friday evening and all but our designated driver got ****ed on the free wine[1] and we nicked further supplies of the stuff for the road. As we drove off from Lille we realised we had directions to the village we were staying, but no maps, no phone numbers or street address for the Belgian friends we were meant to be hooking up with. Surprisingly that all worked out pretty easily and our hosts took us to the bar at the base of the Oude Kwaremont climb. The bar is only open one weekend a year, for De Ronde, and is basically the farmer's back room plus a marquee outside. Cool atmosphere, plus they serve Oude Kwaremont ale (~ 9%) which goes down a treat. It was pretty quiet in there on the Friday, but very busy on the Saturday with an impromptu band. Funky artwork on billboards outside too:- http://www.sorted.org/~pete/Flanders...s/PICT0041.JPG http://www.sorted.org/~pete/Flanders...s/PICT0042.JPG Another bar and another load of 9% beer later and we crawled into bed about 1:30, which didn't feel so clever over breakfast at 6:30 the next day...... Between traffic, faffing about and some issues assembling bikes (someone left the skewer for his front wheel back in his room) we finally got going about 9am but got seperated pretty quickly. That was fine though, there were so many people riding the route that it was always easy to get in a group going at the pace you wanted, but enough gaps in between to ride on your own when you wanted to. I was taking the descents fairly fast but suck at climbing so I tended to see the same people several times. Noticed quite a few english clubs riding together, and a fair assortment of bikes. According to friends there were a few 'bents on the course but I didn't see them (saw one on the Koppenberg the next day though watching the race), and a couple of tandems went screaming past me going hell for leather up one of the climbs. I never got the hang of the cobbles and suffered over most of those stretches[2]... ******* things. Got somewhat envious of the guys on full sus mountain bikes whizzing past on those sections. Had to walk three short sections of climbs - two because of traffic, including some bimbo on a moped, and the Koppenberg because I just couldn't make it with a 39/23 bottom gear. Developed a bit of an irrational dislike for people riding triples at that point. Also got to hear an awful lot of loud insults in Dutch when I tried to get going again and veered in front of a fast-moving chain gang nearly bringing them all down (oops). There were a few pros on the course either training for other things or reccying for the race the next day. Spent a while in a group with a number of very cute young ladies all kitted out in "Deutschland" jerseys. Went ahead of them on a descent and the next flat section and then they left me like I was going backwards on the next climb. Finished in about 5:50 for an average of about 24kph which I was pretty happy with under the circumstances. On the one hand, that time doesn't include a lot of rest stops I got waiting at the top of hills for one of our group when we hooked up again and rode together for some time... He'd not been on his bike much for about 10 months so was suffering a bit. On the other hand, I was also riding slower on the downhills and flats with him. Could maybe have squeezed a 5:30 but suspect I'd have run out of legs on the last climbs if I'd tried. One of our group did a 4:45 but he's a fit ******* and we don't like him. Saturday night: dinner and more drinking, natch Sunday morning we rode up the Kluisenberg which hasn't been on the Ronde the last two years because of roadworks (seriously) but as our B&B was part way up it, we felt we ought to give it a go... There was a steady stream of cyclists going by in both directions as we ate breakfast. For some reason it's also popular with the local motorbike (and trike) types too... Perhaps because of the fast, twisty descent (no cobbles, yay!). Then rode over to the Koppenberg to stake out a good spot and watch the race. Hung out with some very pleasant Americans (yes, such things do exist) and a large group of drunken Norwegians there to cheer on Thor Hushovt - didn't do him much good though. Certainly had a lot more respect for the riders when they went through after having struggled on the same hill the day before...... Pete "Loin of Flanders" Bentley. [1] Yuppie class, yah. [2] Much numbness and pins'n'needles in tender places. |
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Pete Bentley wrote:
: http://www.sorted.org/~pete/Flanders...s/PICT0041.JPG : http://www.sorted.org/~pete/Flanders...s/PICT0042.JPG Grin. I saw these ones as well. : I never got the hang of the cobbles and suffered over most of those : stretches[2]... ******* things. Got somewhat envious of the guys on : full sus mountain bikes whizzing past on those sections. I found them fine and much less bother than I thought. The only cobbled bits I didn't like was when I had to brake on downhill cobbled section - you have to grip the bars and then your hands get battered. I'd taken the tyre pressure down to 105 rear/100 front and had no aches or pains at all at the end. : One of our group did a 4:45 but he's a fit ******* and we don't : like him. I found it hard to really push on - the sheer weight of riders kept the speed down for long periods, especially on the cyclepaths. I did 5.10 in the end, with no stops, but didn't really cane it. : Then rode over to the Koppenberg to stake out a good spot and watch : the race. Hung out with some very pleasant Americans (yes, such : things do exist) and a large group of drunken Norwegians there to : cheer on Thor Hushovt - didn't do him much good though. You must have been about 10 metres below where we were on Sunday then! I was just below the TV camera. Arthur -- Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt Don't get me wrong, perl is an OK operating system, but it lacks a lightweight scripting language -- Walter Dnes |
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Arthur Clune wrote:
I'd taken the tyre pressure down to 105 rear/100 front and had no aches or pains at all at the end. Ah yes... Was advised to do something like that by the guy in my LBS who'd done it before but in all the, uh, excitement I forgot. Ended up pretty sore...One of my shoulders pretty much seized up about 5k from the end but I managed to massage enough life back into it to finish. You must have been about 10 metres below where we were on Sunday then! I was just below the TV camera. Small world! Just by that little dogleg on the steep section seemed like the obvious place to watch. The Norwegians and Americans had the best section (they'd been there since dead early) so we tucked in just downhill and dismantled the fence a little bit for a better view. Just got my photos of the riders developed and a couple seem to have come out quite well - will stick 'em online when I get home. Oh yeah, and some tea leaf swiped my water bottle after the riders went through and we were all milling around. Wonder if he thought it was discarded by one of them and took it home as a souvenir.... Pete. |
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And of course, once you've stopped on a 1:5 cobbled climb,
there's no hope of getting going again... I think Trice owners and the like may disagree with you... :-) -- Peter Headland |
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Peter Headland wrote:
And of course, once you've stopped on a 1:5 cobbled climb, there's no hope of getting going again... I think Trice owners and the like may disagree with you... :-) I managed it on the Mur de Gramont /and/ the Koppenberg, though on the latter only by reverting to three-wheel drive... -- Dave Larrington - http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/ World Domination? Just find a world that's into that kind of thing, then chain to the floor and walk up and down on it in high heels. (Mr. Sunshine) |
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Arthur Clune wrote:
So, for those of us that rode the Ronde van Vlanderam cycle sportif, how was it for you? Excellent! Flew from Heathrow. Thanks MartinM for the bike bag: an excellent piece of kit. Got to Ninove at 7pm and cycled to my hotel in Dilbeek -- further than I thought at 15km out of Ninove towards (and almost in) Brussels. Hotel was excellent with a great restaurant. A lot of Dutch club riders were staying there. They were still up drinking lots as I retired to bed at 10.30pm! The hotel put on a 4.30am breakfast for riders doing the 256km course. After gobbling up a huge number of croissants and coffee, I stuffed my jersey pockets with bananas (along with my trusty, flattened malt loaf from home) and pegged it down to Ninove in the dark. Cycling round town looking for the shuttle buses, quite fortuitously I ran into a rider I'd met on a couple of Audaxes (Richard Parotte -- who'd won the AAA competition in 2001). We loaded our bikes and set off for Bruges. I tried to get some sleep, but the air conditioning was so cold that I couldn't get comfortable. Got to Bruges at about 8am, stamped our cards, and we were off. The parcours was very flat and fast on good roads -- we drafted from one group to the next until we found one going at a good pace. As it turned out, we needn't have bothered as the traffice lights meant that each time we stopped, the group behind would catch us up, and the next and the next. As we approached Kerk,I looked back down the road for Richard who I hadn't seen for a few minutes and was amaze at how huge the group had become; about 200 riders stretched down the road. Gong through Kortijk in such a big group was great -- no chance of problems with cars as they had no choice but to give way (not that this is an issue in Belgium). The refreshments in Kortrijk were pretty good: waffles, Isostar, geobar-type-things, and bananas. After Kerk, more hacking along in big groups until another refreshment and control stop at Waregem (92km). Still feeling prety fresh as we set off. The first cobbles came in Wannegem, where I experienecd one effect of cobbles downhill at speed: blurred vision. I made sure that I would ride fast cobbled sections out of the saddle a little. The next section after Lede I found more of a challenge. It was flat and long and nearly all the riders I was with left me behind -- I put a spurt on to try to catch them and found out just how difficult it is to accellerate. Then my (only) water bottle bounced out of its cage and I ran over it with my back wheel, popping the top off and spilling my drink all over the road. Bugger: two climbs to come and Bike: trusty, steel-tubed Merckx Corsa Extra -- not a single problem Tyres: Vittoria Open Pave -- great tyres, Pete (Biggs) Gearing: 53/39 - 12-27 -- fine, except on the Koppenberg |
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Simonb wrote: snip tales of beer and cobbles my back wheel, popping the top off and spilling my drink all over the road. Bugger: two climbs to come and is there more? or has gg2beta be taken over by BT openworld? |
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Oops. just put the kids to bed, didn't mean to send that.
Anyway. .... The first cobbles came in Wannegem, where I experienecd one effect of cobbles downhill at speed: blurred vision. I made sure that I would ride fast cobbled sections out of the saddle a little. The next section after Lede I found more of a challenge. It was flat and long and nearly all the riders I was with left me behind -- I put a spurt on to try to catch them and found out just how difficult it is to accellerate. Then my (only) water bottle bounced out of its cage and I ran over it with my back wheel, popping the top off and spilling my drink all over the road. Bugger: two climbs to come and nothing to drink. I put some pressure on and caught Richard just before another long uphill section of cobbles at Roborst where a support van driven by some idiot came hurtling through the riders to get to its rider up ahead. After this section, I replenished my bottle, ate some malt loaf, recovered on some smooth road, and felt much better. The Molenberg arrived and I fairly shot up it -- a fun descent followed and another longer section of cobbles through Mater. The Wolvenberg came and went. Another stop at Oudenaarde: a stamp, more food, Isostar and water. Oude Kwaremont was the first long, cobbled climb. It wasn't that steep, but it was pretty hard work. Then came the Paterberg and Koppenberg, which I managed to get mixed up. I thought I'd climbed the Koppenberg, which I knew to be the hardest climb. When it did hit me, I wasn't prepared for the gradient and ran out of steam and pushed the bike for about 10 metres through the steepest bit. The next few climbs were pretty straightforward -- a few of them cobbled, but not from bottom to top. We made an unofficial stop at Elst for coffee and coke at this stage as we realised we'd been on our bikes pushing it for nearly 220km without a real rest. After restarting, I got a twinge of cramp on Tenbosse, but not enough to stop me and I recovered on the bike. The final official stop was after Brakel. We started off again with two climbs to go: the infamous Muur and the Bosberg (where many breaks have been made to stick in recent years, including this year). I felt great going up the Muur and even managed quite a burst of speed at the top. Nice to see spectators there too, and at many other point along the way. A mad dash down the Muur followed, and on to the Bosberg, where my cramp twinges came back. Easing off a bit, more drink and malt loaf meant quick recovery and we were off on the last stretch to Ninove. Again flat out betweeen groups to find a faster one, which we did (some Belgian club riders). This was fun after all the hard work beforehand. We crossed the official finish line (which I'd done twice the previous evening looking for my hotel!) in just over 10 1/2 hours. Not bad. I got an early night and a mid-morning train to Geraardsbergen to watch the race from the top of the Muur and doze in the sun, soak up the atmosphere and drink a few beers. The pros came through at about 4pm -- not even out of breath at the top of the Muur (I was almost under the banner marking the top of the climb). I think Boonen had launched his first attack there, so the crowd were _very_ excited. A TV cameraman swung his camera round so spectators nearby could watch the closing kilometres on his monitor. Altogether, highly recommended. Photos to follow. :-) |
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