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Agreed, Ken.
I think there's a difference between being able to financially afford a $6k bike, and being able to realistically work it into your life. I have a bike that I ride around on during the weekends and a car I use about every day. I would bike to class if I could, but where I live doesn't make this a real option. The only way I could do it would be to move closer to where I went to school. Also, there's no public transportation in my area, not to mention the snowy winters that making bicycling practically impossible. I bike when I can, but I drive almost all the time. -Bill H. |
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There is definitely some truth to this. I am a large mouth bass when I see
bright shiny things cross my path :~) |
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In article .com,
"Peter Cole" writes: Functionally, you don't *need* to spend a lot to get a really nice bike, the point of diminishing returns is lower than ever, but if you *want* high-zoot, it's not such a bad lust, as lusts go. If anyone can use such a bike, all power to 'em, I sez. But personally, I can not use such a bike. I'd be scared to put a U-lock on it for fear of marring the paint. In fact I'd be scared to park it and leave it unattended. I might end up vigilantly guarding it like the character Bogart played in 'Treasure of the Sierra Madre' and his gold. I think I now know why such chattles are sometimes referred-to as 'trappings'. There are some really impressively elegant (and accordingly priced) bicycles out there. But like the saying goes, we should be careful of what we wish for. If anyone gave me a bike like Kerry's Serotta for free, I might not be averse to sticking a milk crate on it and riding it in the rain to the supermarket. On second thought ... cheers, Tom -- -- Nothing is safe from me. Above address is just a spam midden. I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca |
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A very good point. My bikes I guard and never leave out of my sight. I would
never lock it to a pole. If I need to go shopping verses "riding" I take my choice of several beater bikes I have. Lets not confuse the purpose of our bikes. Some people use it as a mode of transportation in a very utilitarian sense. My Serotta and Colnago do not fit this paradigm. They are purely recreational, for fitness and serious distance riding. I would think that this distinction would be obvious. Any other type of riding would be silly on these machines. Different clothing for different purposes as far as my thinking goes. |
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David L. Johnson wrote: On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 12:26:59 -0500, Matt O'Toole wrote: Ken Marcet wrote: I mean how many people can really afford to spend 6 grand on a bike? The same people who can afford $50k-plus cars and million dollar homes, This is not true. If you can afford a $6,000 car, then you can afford a $6,000 bike, instead. David L. Johnson My fave is the guy with the Litespeed UnObtanium hanging off the back of a clapped out Jetta. Probably a 5k$ bikes on a 1k$ car. Man has his priorites in order, now dropping 5k$ on a factory built bike when there are lots of fine one man shops is another question. Me, I'd take a Bruce Gordon over a Serotta/Colnago class ride any time. Scott G. Support your local framebuilder. |
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People rave about Seven's too.
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:47:54 -0800, Bill H. wrote:
Agreed, Ken. I think there's a difference between being able to financially afford a $6k bike, and being able to realistically work it into your life. Depends on your life, and the extent to which you are willing to work the bike into it. I have a bike that I ride around on during the weekends and a car I use about every day. I use my bike every day, and the car usually on weekends. *I would bike to class if I could, but where I live doesn't make this a real option. The only way I could do it would be to move closer to where I went to school. For some, that is not an option. But if it is, consider it seriously. This option just became available this year for me (since my wife can no longer work, eliminating the pressure to not live near my office), and that has made a huge difference in my life. transportation in my area, not to mention the snowy winters that making bicycling practically impossible. I ride under all conditions. The only time I would want to take the car is when it's snowing, or raining (such as today), but those are precisely the times when there is no place to park. So, I got studded tires, fenders, and a decent rain parka. -- David L. Johnson __o | What is objectionable, and what is dangerous about extremists is _`\(,_ | not that they are extreme, but that they are intolerant. (_)/ (_) | --Robert F. Kennedy |
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On Wed, 23 Mar 2005 10:09:48 -0800, Peter Cole wrote:
Sure, but there's no correlation, you know what I mean? Actually, I think there's a negative correlation in the group I ride with. It seems that people are constantly "upgrading" but most are riding less as time goes on. I've noticed a definite correlation he the slower the ride, the more prevalent the titanium. -- David L. Johnson __o | When you are up to your ass in alligators, it's hard to remember _`\(,_ | that your initial objective was to drain the swamp. -- LBJ (_)/ (_) | |
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Peter Cole wrote:
Matt O'Toole wrote: Peter Cole wrote: I know a guy with several. He's just a single professional who spends his disposable income on bikes. Of course he's middle-aged, overweight and a pretty mediocre rider, a fairly typical high-end bike owner. To be fair, I know plenty of successful people who are fit and fast too. Some people just have their **** together in general, you know? Sure, but there's no correlation, you know what I mean? Yup. Actually, I think there's a negative correlation in the group I ride with. It seems that people are constantly "upgrading" but most are riding less as time goes on. I think a common motivation is to get a better bike to stimulate more riding and better fitness. It's kind of like people who get a dog to lose weight. I've noticed this too. When people's riding slacks off, they start thinking about gear. Either this is to maintain some connection to the sport when they're not riding, or to get themselves motivated about riding again. Of course it's a bunch of bunk, but it's no different than buying clothes one doesn't need or other kinds of unnecessary consumption. MTB'ers seem to be even worse than roadies for being drawn to bright and shiny things. There's not much of the retro-fetishism that plagues the road warriors, so newer is always better. Nobody seems to wear anything out any more. Ride it for a while, then Ebay it. This is definately true. For one thing there's at least the perception that MTB stuff is improving all the time. I do think this was true until a few years ago, but not anymore. Also, I think MTB'ing attracts more gearheads -- people who are attracted to the gear as much or more than the activity. As I'm sure you've noticed, other sports and hobbies are rife with this too. Matt O. |
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Brian Wax wrote:
There is definitely some truth to this. I am a large mouth bass when I see bright shiny things cross my path :~) Hey, I know a guy who's making custom fly rods, out of the finest high modulus carbon composites... It's long been my contention that fishing lures are not designed to lure fish, but fishermen! Matt O. |
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