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Old August 6th 05, 07:45 PM
Peter Cole
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maxo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:08:40 +0000, Robin Hubert wrote:


Fifty bucks is exhorbitant. More like $25 for a pair.



I was thinking wheelbuilding pricing. Oops.

I am thinking Mavic Open Pro. Now, being that I


cannot find any Open Pro pre-built wheelsets (online or LBS) I'm
wondering if I should just get the Open Pro rims and have a local spoke
them or ..... what?


Open Pros are great, you can get machine built wheels on line. with
them, but they're still gonna need to be finished by a pro.


You don't need a pro. All you need is a $20 book and a little reading
comprehension, and a spoke wrench, and maybe some leather work gloves.



And a truing stand...


You definitely don't need a truing stand.
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Old August 6th 05, 07:58 PM
John Forrest Tomlinson
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:45:38 -0400, Peter Cole
wrote:

maxo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 15:08:40 +0000, Robin Hubert wrote:


Fifty bucks is exhorbitant. More like $25 for a pair.



I was thinking wheelbuilding pricing. Oops.

I am thinking Mavic Open Pro. Now, being that I


cannot find any Open Pro pre-built wheelsets (online or LBS) I'm
wondering if I should just get the Open Pro rims and have a local spoke
them or ..... what?


Open Pros are great, you can get machine built wheels on line. with
them, but they're still gonna need to be finished by a pro.

You don't need a pro. All you need is a $20 book and a little reading
comprehension, and a spoke wrench, and maybe some leather work gloves.



And a truing stand...


You definitely don't need a truing stand.


The bike can work as a truing stand. It can also work as a dishing
tool. But both of these special tools -- esp a dishing tool -- can
make the experience go much quicker.

JT


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Old August 6th 05, 08:16 PM
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:45:38 -0400, Peter Cole wrote:

And a truing stand...


You definitely don't need a truing stand.


OK, you can true the wheel placed in a spare fork that's mounted upside
down in a hole on your work bench with a c-clamp and a playing card to
judge alignment. :P

Or flip the bike upside down, which is what I do for quick adjustments.

But if you're thinking of paying $300 for a new set of wheels...what's a
fifty dollar consumer grade truing stand in the grand scheme?

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Old August 6th 05, 08:47 PM
Robin Hubert
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maxo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:45:38 -0400, Peter Cole wrote:


And a truing stand...



You definitely don't need a truing stand.



OK, you can true the wheel placed in a spare fork that's mounted upside
down in a hole on your work bench with a c-clamp and a playing card to
judge alignment. :P

Or flip the bike upside down, which is what I do for quick adjustments.

But if you're thinking of paying $300 for a new set of wheels...what's a
fifty dollar consumer grade truing stand in the grand scheme?


Alot of beer to enhance the experience.


Robin Hubert
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Old August 6th 05, 10:15 PM
maxo
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 19:47:25 +0000, Robin Hubert wrote:

But if you're thinking of paying $300 for a new set of wheels...what's a
fifty dollar consumer grade truing stand in the grand scheme?


A lot of beer to enhance the experience.


Point taken.

If I had the space, I'd still get a truing stand as I've always wanted
one. :P

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Old August 7th 05, 04:04 AM
Frank Drackman
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"Robin Hubert" wrote in message
k.net...

Oh, yes, Peter, "there is no bike shop like mine, no bike shop like mine
(refrain)".

And Campagnolo does no wrong (even if they admit it).


Robin Hubert


I believe that your message might have been a candidate for the write, hold
for 24 hours, reread, then decide to sent or not category.

I am sure that there is some history between you and Peter, and he has a
well known "hand built wheels & Campy components bias", but I think that he
has been a wonderful resource for this group over many years and I would be
extremely sad to see him leave.



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Old August 7th 05, 04:18 AM
Robin Hubert
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Frank Drackman wrote:
"Robin Hubert" wrote in message
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Oh, yes, Peter, "there is no bike shop like mine, no bike shop like mine
(refrain)".

And Campagnolo does no wrong (even if they admit it).


Robin Hubert



I believe that your message might have been a candidate for the write, hold
for 24 hours, reread, then decide to sent or not category.

I am sure that there is some history between you and Peter, and he has a
well known "hand built wheels & Campy components bias", but I think that he
has been a wonderful resource for this group over many years and I would be
extremely sad to see him leave.



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Fair enough, but the honesty and politics don't mix too well.
Did you read my "pompous ass" comment?

Robin Hubert
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Old August 7th 05, 05:54 AM
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"Robin Hubert" wrote in message
k.net...
Frank Drackman wrote:
"Robin Hubert" wrote in message
k.net...


Oh, yes, Peter, "there is no bike shop like mine, no bike shop like mine
(refrain)".

And Campagnolo does no wrong (even if they admit it).


Robin Hubert



I believe that your message might have been a candidate for the write,
hold for 24 hours, reread, then decide to sent or not category.

I am sure that there is some history between you and Peter, and he has a
well known "hand built wheels & Campy components bias", but I think that
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Fair enough, but the honesty and politics don't mix too well.
Did you read my "pompous ass" comment?


I did not see the pompous ass comment



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Old August 7th 05, 02:13 PM
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The Quiet Man wrote:
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$199.00 Search Google for a $20 off $150 coupon.

BUT make sure a good wheelbuilder trues, rounds, tensions, dishes and
stress relieves these..

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Old August 7th 05, 08:41 PM
Peter Cole
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maxo wrote:
On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 14:45:38 -0400, Peter Cole wrote:


And a truing stand...



You definitely don't need a truing stand.



OK, you can true the wheel placed in a spare fork that's mounted upside
down in a hole on your work bench with a c-clamp and a playing card to
judge alignment. :P

Or flip the bike upside down, which is what I do for quick adjustments.

But if you're thinking of paying $300 for a new set of wheels...what's a
fifty dollar consumer grade truing stand in the grand scheme?


I just hang the bike from the saddle nose with a rope from the garage
ceiling, or, in nice weather, use the rack on the back of my van. I use
the brake pads to gauge trueness and eyeball the dish (I usually mount a
tire). I've done perhaps a dozen pairs of wheels this way over the past
few years. FWIW, I've never paid anything like $300 for a set of wheels.
My most expensive set was $215 shipped, which included Mavic Open Pro
rims, DT spokes, Ultegra hubs, 9-sp cassette, tubes and tires (Supergo).
Most of the other sets were $100 or less. I'm a frugal Yankee.

I'm sure a truing stand is nice, as is a tensiometer, work stand and
lots of other doo-dads -- they're just not necessary. Frugality in my
world is more about simplification than money.
 




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