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OT Flame War
The US has violated or withdrawn from treaties when it felt it was the
correct course of action. This is a rather weak argument for supporting racist colonialism. You contend that the U.S. sent military forces to South Vietnam simply for purposes of racist colonialism? "Colonel David Crockett...would *not* have supported Kerry." So what? Perhaps because Crockett valued honesty, character, integrity, and moral courage? All virtues sadly absent in Kerry. As the sign in Baghdad said, "Saddam Gone, Job Done, Go Home". Good advice. Well, we had Hanoi Jane, so I take it you're attempting to become "Baghdad Tom"? g James S. Prine "Colonel David Crockett...would *not* have supported Kerry." http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/ |
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They have a long way to go to equal the 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians
killed by the US Cites, please? And have you forgotten the splendid work of the VC...*routine* assassinations, mass murders, mass rapes, torture, theft, etc.? The V.C. didn't invent atrocities, but they certainly put a fine polish on their methods. Not as random acts, but as policy. In fact, if Kerry had substituted "VC" for "U.S." when he condemned the actions of U.S. troops in the field, he would have been pretty accurate. James S. Prine "Colonel David Crockett...would *not* have supported Kerry." http://hometown.aol.com/jsprine/ |
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James S. Prine wrote:
They have a long way to go to equal the 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians killed by the US Cites, please?... This is common historical knowledge - would you ask for a citation that Germany invaded Poland in 1939? Sheesh! -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... James S. Prine wrote: They have a long way to go to equal the 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians killed by the US Cites, please?... This is common historical knowledge - would you ask for a citation that Germany invaded Poland in 1939? Sheesh! -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant When ask for facts you deflect the issue, I've yet to see any evidence the US killed 2 to 3 million people Considering all of the other complaints you seem to have about the US perhaps you want to believe this happend? |
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Mark Leuck wrote:
"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... James S. Prine wrote: They have a long way to go to equal the 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians killed by the US Cites, please?... This is common historical knowledge - would you ask for a citation that Germany invaded Poland in 1939? Sheesh! -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant When ask for facts you deflect the issue, I've yet to see any evidence the US killed 2 to 3 million people Considering all of the other complaints you seem to have about the US perhaps you want to believe this happend? AFP wire service published estimates of 2 million civilian deaths in South Vietnam, 2 million civilian deaths in North Vietnam, and 1.1 Vietnamese military deaths for the war, for a total of 5.1 million. I deliberately used very conservative numbers. -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Mark Leuck wrote: When ask for facts you deflect the issue, I've yet to see any evidence the US killed 2 to 3 million people Considering all of the other complaints you seem to have about the US perhaps you want to believe this happend? AFP wire service published estimates of 2 million civilian deaths in South Vietnam, 2 million civilian deaths in North Vietnam, and 1.1 Vietnamese military deaths for the war, for a total of 5.1 million. I deliberately used very conservative numbers. -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant Where is the evidence the US killed 2 to 3 million people? You appear to have deliberately not posted that |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Mark Leuck wrote: "Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... James S. Prine wrote: They have a long way to go to equal the 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians killed by the US Cites, please?... This is common historical knowledge - would you ask for a citation that Germany invaded Poland in 1939? Sheesh! -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant When ask for facts you deflect the issue, I've yet to see any evidence the US killed 2 to 3 million people Considering all of the other complaints you seem to have about the US perhaps you want to believe this happend? AFP wire service published estimates of 2 million civilian deaths in South Vietnam, 2 million civilian deaths in North Vietnam, and 1.1 Vietnamese military deaths for the war, for a total of 5.1 million. I deliberately used very conservative numbers. It would have been even better if we had killed every one of those communist *******s in North Vietnam. Johnson did not know **** about how to fight a war. He also did not know **** about how to fight poverty either. But that is your typical liberal for you - a total ****- up in all departments. Kerry would be another Johnson. -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... James S. Prine wrote: They have a long way to go to equal the 2-3 million Vietnamese civilians killed by the US Cites, please?... This is common historical knowledge - would you ask for a citation that Germany invaded Poland in 1939? Sheesh! I see that Mr. Sherman, the pedant, is falling down on the job badly. He used to look up this stuff for us and present it as a fact. But of course, I could always dispute his so-called facts, so maybe he has given up on that particular liberal tactic. Now he can just have his "common historical knowledge" and I can just have my "common historical knowledge." I will leave it to the reader as to who has any intelligence and wisdom when it comes to common historical knowledge. -- Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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Edward Dolan wrote:
... I see that Mr. Sherman, the pedant, is falling down on the job badly. He used to look up this stuff for us and present it as a fact. But of course, I could always dispute his so-called facts, so maybe he has given up on that particular liberal tactic. Now he can just have his "common historical knowledge" and I can just have my "common historical knowledge." I will leave it to the reader as to who has any intelligence and wisdom when it comes to common historical knowledge. See my post elsewhere, before exhibiting your smugness - I was using a conservative number for Vietnamese casualties. -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant |
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"Tom Sherman" wrote in message ... Edward Dolan wrote: ... I see that Mr. Sherman, the pedant, is falling down on the job badly. He used to look up this stuff for us and present it as a fact. But of course, I could always dispute his so-called facts, so maybe he has given up on that particular liberal tactic. Now he can just have his "common historical knowledge" and I can just have my "common historical knowledge." I will leave it to the reader as to who has any intelligence and wisdom when it comes to common historical knowledge. See my post elsewhere, before exhibiting your smugness - I was using a conservative number for Vietnamese casualties. -- Tom Sherman - Curmudgeon and Pedant You used very conservative numbers yet avoided how many were killed by the US which you originally stated was 2 - 3 million |
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