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Old September 18th 08, 10:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Andre
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This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:

1. Spain...that was easy
2. Belgium...lots of promising stars on the rise, plus many victories
3. France...this is unusual but they have made strides
4. Germany... some good results and some hope
5. Luxembourg...for a small country
6. Australia...they still got Evans; Mcewen is losing a bit but some
young stars rising
7. America...VandeVelde, Levi..and some excellent choices in picking
riders for teams

here it becomes very nebulous

8. Austria...Kohl Kohl Kohl
9. Holland...not much but they do have Gesink
10. Russia...producing talent like crazy
11. Italy...I would have placed them much higher except for the
cheating

correct me if I'm wrong

Andre
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Old September 18th 08, 11:47 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sep 18, 6:41*pm, ST wrote:
On 9/18/08 2:56 PM, in article
, "Andre"





wrote:
This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:


1. Spain...that was easy
2. Belgium...lots of promising stars on the rise, plus many victories
3. France...this is unusual but they have made strides
4. Germany... some good results and some hope
5. Luxembourg...for a small country
6. Australia...they still got Evans; Mcewen is losing a bit but some
young stars rising
7. America...VandeVelde, Levi..and some excellent choices in picking
riders for teams


here it becomes very nebulous


8. Austria...Kohl Kohl Kohl
9. Holland...not much but they do have Gesink
10. Russia...producing talent like crazy


Chernobyl happened 22.5 years ago!! Coincidence???

11. Italy...I would have placed them much higher except for the
cheating


correct me if I'm wrong


* * * * *Andre


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Old September 19th 08, 01:38 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Ryan Cousineau
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In article ,
ST wrote:

On 9/18/08 2:56 PM, in article
, "Andre"
wrote:

This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:

1. Spain...that was easy
2. Belgium...lots of promising stars on the rise, plus many victories
3. France...this is unusual but they have made strides
4. Germany... some good results and some hope
5. Luxembourg...for a small country
6. Australia...they still got Evans; Mcewen is losing a bit but some
young stars rising
7. America...VandeVelde, Levi..and some excellent choices in picking
riders for teams

here it becomes very nebulous

8. Austria...Kohl Kohl Kohl
9. Holland...not much but they do have Gesink
10. Russia...producing talent like crazy


Chernobyl happened 22.5 years ago!! Coincidence???


Maybe not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

No Canada on this list?

For nations that generate low numbers of cyclists, or are simply small
to begin with (Luxembourg) it's very hard to see recent results as
anything but chance. It just happens that the genetically-compatible Mr.
and Mrs. Schleck are Luxembourgers, and their offspring are pretty much
the entirety of their country's current generation of elite cyclists.
Now that Mrs. Shleck is beyond her reproductive years, the nation's
cyclist output may be in for a great fall (see also Finland, economy,
what happens if Nokia falters).

There's a lot of chance in the generation of pro cyclists.

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Old September 19th 08, 01:46 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Sep 18, 8:38*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,





*ST wrote:
On 9/18/08 2:56 PM, in article
, "Andre"
wrote:


This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:


1. Spain...that was easy
2. Belgium...lots of promising stars on the rise, plus many victories
3. France...this is unusual but they have made strides
4. Germany... some good results and some hope
5. Luxembourg...for a small country
6. Australia...they still got Evans; Mcewen is losing a bit but some
young stars rising
7. America...VandeVelde, Levi..and some excellent choices in picking
riders for teams


here it becomes very nebulous


8. Austria...Kohl Kohl Kohl
9. Holland...not much but they do have Gesink
10. Russia...producing talent like crazy


Chernobyl happened 22.5 years ago!! Coincidence???


Maybe not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

No Canada on this list?

For nations that generate low numbers of cyclists, or are simply small
to begin with (Luxembourg) it's very hard to see recent results as
anything but chance. It just happens that the genetically-compatible Mr.
and Mrs. Schleck are Luxembourgers, and their offspring are pretty much
the entirety of their country's current generation of elite cyclists.
Now that Mrs. Shleck is beyond her reproductive years, the nation's
cyclist output may be in for a great fall (see also Finland, economy,
what happens if Nokia falters).

There's a lot of chance in the generation of pro cyclists.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -

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Well it's only for this year. In other words the improvement that the
country made. Next year Luxembourg might drop way down. But I know I
should have placed Russia ahead of them. This is not scientific, it's
just off the top of my head.Who would you put ahead of Luxembourg?

Andre
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Old September 19th 08, 02:28 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Ryan Cousineau
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In article
,
Andre wrote:

On Sep 18, 8:38*pm, Ryan Cousineau wrote:
In article ,





*ST wrote:
On 9/18/08 2:56 PM, in article
, "Andre"
wrote:


This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:


1. Spain...that was easy
2. Belgium...lots of promising stars on the rise, plus many victories
3. France...this is unusual but they have made strides
4. Germany... some good results and some hope
5. Luxembourg...for a small country
6. Australia...they still got Evans; Mcewen is losing a bit but some
young stars rising
7. America...VandeVelde, Levi..and some excellent choices in picking
riders for teams


here it becomes very nebulous


8. Austria...Kohl Kohl Kohl
9. Holland...not much but they do have Gesink
10. Russia...producing talent like crazy


Chernobyl happened 22.5 years ago!! Coincidence???


Maybe not

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation_hormesis

No Canada on this list?

For nations that generate low numbers of cyclists, or are simply small
to begin with (Luxembourg) it's very hard to see recent results as
anything but chance. It just happens that the genetically-compatible Mr.
and Mrs. Schleck are Luxembourgers, and their offspring are pretty much
the entirety of their country's current generation of elite cyclists.
Now that Mrs. Shleck is beyond her reproductive years, the nation's
cyclist output may be in for a great fall (see also Finland, economy,
what happens if Nokia falters).

There's a lot of chance in the generation of pro cyclists.

--
Ryan Cousineau /
"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -


Well it's only for this year. In other words the improvement that the
country made. Next year Luxembourg might drop way down. But I know I
should have placed Russia ahead of them. This is not scientific, it's
just off the top of my head.Who would you put ahead of Luxembourg?

Andre


No no, Andre, you misunderstand: I think your rankings are defensible,
but your entire project is not.

--
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"In other newsgroups, they killfile trolls."
"In rec.bicycles.racing, we coach them."
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Old September 19th 08, 02:31 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Tom Kunich
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"Ryan Cousineau" wrote in message
]...

For nations that generate low numbers of cyclists, or are simply small
to begin with (Luxembourg) it's very hard to see recent results as
anything but chance. It just happens that the genetically-compatible Mr.
and Mrs. Schleck are Luxembourgers, and their offspring are pretty much
the entirety of their country's current generation of elite cyclists.
Now that Mrs. Shleck is beyond her reproductive years, the nation's
cyclist output may be in for a great fall (see also Finland, economy,
what happens if Nokia falters).


Psst - Kim Kirchen? There were three Luxembourgers on the Tour and they ALL
ended up in the top 12.


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Old September 19th 08, 02:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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"Andre" wrote in message
...
This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:

1. Spain...that was easy
2. Belgium...lots of promising stars on the rise, plus many victories
3. France...this is unusual but they have made strides
4. Germany... some good results and some hope
5. Luxembourg...for a small country
6. Australia...they still got Evans; Mcewen is losing a bit but some
young stars rising
7. America...VandeVelde, Levi..and some excellent choices in picking
riders for teams

here it becomes very nebulous

8. Austria...Kohl Kohl Kohl
9. Holland...not much but they do have Gesink
10. Russia...producing talent like crazy
11. Italy...I would have placed them much higher except for the
cheating

correct me if I'm wrong

Andre


No offense intended as this is good cycling subject matter, but somehow this
would seem more appropriate coming from Bob Martin.


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Old September 19th 08, 03:06 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
Carl Sundquist
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"Carl Sundquist" wrote in message
...

"Andre" wrote in message
...
This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:

1. Spain...that was easy
2. Belgium...lots of promising stars on the rise, plus many victories
3. France...this is unusual but they have made strides
4. Germany... some good results and some hope
5. Luxembourg...for a small country
6. Australia...they still got Evans; Mcewen is losing a bit but some
young stars rising
7. America...VandeVelde, Levi..and some excellent choices in picking
riders for teams

here it becomes very nebulous

8. Austria...Kohl Kohl Kohl
9. Holland...not much but they do have Gesink
10. Russia...producing talent like crazy
11. Italy...I would have placed them much higher except for the
cheating

correct me if I'm wrong

Andre


No offense intended as this is good cycling subject matter, but somehow
this would seem more appropriate coming from Bob Martin.


BTW, will you be at the last race of the season at the dump next week?


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Old September 19th 08, 04:02 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Dans le message de ,
ST a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré :
On 9/18/08 2:56 PM, in article
,
"Andre" wrote:

This year so far (in my opinion) the countries that have had more
success; or improved the most, in order:


10. Russia...producing talent like crazy


Chernobyl happened 22.5 years ago!! Coincidence???


Paying attention to NATO discussions?
Ever hear of Uraine?


 




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