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For those doing the Alpine Classic in January (I'm one), there are fires in Mt Beauty and Tawonga. I've always liked that descent into Mt Beauty, with the vines and the valley...it'll be scary to see it in January. http://tinyurl.com/y2e6p8 -- Walrus |
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Walrus Wrote: For those doing the Alpine Classic in January (I'm one), there are fires in Mt Beauty and Tawonga. I've always liked that descent into Mt Beauty, with the vines and the valley...it'll be scary to see it in January. http://tinyurl.com/y2e6p8 It will regenerate, though probably not fully in our lifetimes. Not forgetting Mt Buffalo is still rather barren after almost three years, all that exposed granite is by accounts, generating a lot of radiant heat in the arvo, in time for the 200km riders. -- cfsmtb |
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Walrus wrote: For those doing the Alpine Classic in January (I'm one), there are fires in Mt Beauty and Tawonga. I've always liked that descent into Mt Beauty, with the vines and the valley...it'll be scary to see it in January. I rode up and down Hotham 10 days after the huge fires ripped through there in '03 I think? Surreal.... |
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Here hoping that all the fires are under control come Classic time. It would be a shame if they had to call it off again because of fire. -- neon |
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neon Wrote: Here hoping that all the fires are under control come Classic time. It would be a shame if they had to call it off again because of fire. Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I reckon we'd need some good solid rain across the Alps before mid January for the fires to be controlled to the point where the AAC can run. The 2003 fires started on Buffalo on New Years Day and burned out of control for at least 5-6 weeks. The current fires have only been going 2 weeks and there is still a heap of fuel for them to chew through. -- Unregistered |
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Unregistered Wrote: Maybe I'm being pessimistic, but I reckon we'd need some good solid rain across the Alps before mid January for the fires to be controlled to the point where the AAC can run. The 2003 fires started on Buffalo on New Years Day and burned out of control for at least 5-6 weeks. The current fires have only been going 2 weeks and there is still a heap of fuel for them to chew through.I hope they do regain control...not just for my sake in wanting to ride the AAC, but obviously for the area itself. -- Walrus |
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Walrus Wrote: I hope they do regain control...not just for my sake in wanting to ride the AAC, but obviously for the area itself. My 2c... - Let it burn, its only nature taking its course. - Protect life and property* *only where necessary. I saw a news snippet of CFA vuln's clearing breaks around someone's shed the other day, crazy! If the owner is foolish enough not to take responsibility of this themselves too f'n bad! These people live in the bush they should know better... (says me now living in cottonwool-ville that is the inner city).. ok, 3c... I've grown up with my old man being a life long member of the CFA back home and have been around 'fireies' quite a lot. These guys define hardcore when they are out there doing their thing for $0. Tough as nails. The ride from Zumies to Halls Gap was indeed eerie after most of that was burnt down. Not from a 'awww its all dead' perspective, it'll grow back, but from a 'where are the pretty trees to look at, and where is my damn shade!?' perspective.. lama -- gplama |
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gplama Wrote: My 2c... - Let it burn, its only nature taking its course. - Protect life and property* My brother & his family lived out in Dandenong Ranges for a while, then got sick & tired of being scared ****less every summer. Hence they've moved back to southern "Tierra del Fuego". Problem is, there's fires also ripping through the east coast at the mo. I probably saw what was a crown fire in '83, from about 5km's away. The radiant heat was indescribable as it was equally terrifying. -- cfsmtb |
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gplama wrote:
My 2c... - Let it burn, its only nature taking its course. - Protect life and property* Depends on the ferocity of the fire. If the Greenies have had their way and the fuel load is above 30 tonnes per hectare because it hasn't been burnt for 20 years, then, on a hot day with a decent wind, the fire will destroy some species of trees. You'd be amazed what a gum tree is capable of though. Blackened stumps which sprout new green branches from the trunk in a few months. They have dormant buds under the bark for just such a scenario. Tough trees that can survive amazing fires. As well as that, the fire wakes up all the gumnuts that are buried under the debris and new growth comes up everywhere. A pine forest however..... dies. *only where necessary. I saw a news snippet of CFA vuln's clearing breaks around someone's shed the other day, crazy! If the owner is foolish enough not to take responsibility of this themselves too f'n bad! These people live in the bush they should know better... (says me now living in cottonwool-ville that is the inner city).. Yeah, we do that. Never pass judgement on the resident (well, not out loud). ok, 3c... I've grown up with my old man being a life long member of the CFA back home and have been around 'fireies' quite a lot. These guys define hardcore when they are out there doing their thing for $0. Tough as nails. I've been a member of my local Firies for seven years, now president of the local brigade and recently made a lieutenant, (a yelllow hat person). When someone asks "Who's in charge here" they all point to the yellow hat. :-( I spent two weeks in Singleton, NSW in 2003 as relief for the local Firies during their "problems", working 14 hour days and drinking 12 litres of water a day without needing to pee. If you don't need to pee, you're not drinking enough, but Geez, you can drown in that water stuff, and you can top up on beer at the end of the day. :-) Theo Haven't been to a fire since... uh, yesterday avo, but that was under control before we arrived. |
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"Theo Bekkers" wrote: gplama wrote: My 2c... - Let it burn, its only nature taking its course. - Protect life and property* Depends on the ferocity of the fire. If the Greenies have had their way and the fuel load is above 30 tonnes per hectare because it hasn't been burnt for 20 years, then, on a hot day with a decent wind, the fire will destroy some species of trees. You'd be amazed what a gum tree is capable of though. Blackened stumps which sprout new green branches from the trunk in a few months. They have dormant buds under the bark for just such a scenario. Tough trees that can survive amazing fires. As well as that, the fire wakes up all the gumnuts that are buried under the debris and new growth comes up everywhere. Just a point of clarification regarding the Victorian forests. Around Melbourne's mountains the dominant forest tree is the Mountain Ash. They depend on fire. It kills them, but they drop a huge seed load that quickly regrows in the ash bed. But if another fire burns through the area in less than 30 years the new forest won't have matured to set seed, and they don't have those epicormic buds under the bark to resprout, they just die. Thus the forest dies out. So less frequent, severe fires are essential to the survival of our magnificent tall mountain ash forests (the tallest flowering plants in the world). Think of the Dandenongs, Donna Buang, Marysville area, all of Melbournes water catchments. To preserve those forests they need fires on a cycle of greater than once every 30 years. Just my 2c -- Cheers Peter ~~~ ~ _@ ~~ ~ _- \, ~~ (*)/ (*) |
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