Urge to yell at a cyclist

On Sep 15, 7:05*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Tom Sherman °_°" wrote in ...



On 9/15/2010 7:50 PM, Edward Dolan wrote:
"Tom Sherman *wrote in message
...
Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was
riding
less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt like
stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her.

[1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance.

She was right where she should have been. If you take the lane it is just
matter of time until you are hit by a motor vehicle.

Ed Dolan, as anyone who has practiced vehicular cycling methods will know,
is wrong. *Furthermore, Mr. Dolan is promoting cyclist inferiority -
motorist superiority.

All Mr. Dolan is doing is attempting to prevent you from being killed on the
road by a motorist. Those who advocate taking the lane are worse than
criminals. It is one sure way of getting hit by a motor vehicle sooner or
later.

Or an angry confrontation with a driver who feels entitled to the
road, where you got the most to lose.

On Sep 16, 5:17*pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Sep 16, 5:02*pm, DennisTheBald wrote:



On Sep 15, 6:08*pm, Tom Sherman °_°

wrote:
Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was
riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt
like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her.

[1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're
driving in your truck you're a motorist.
While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it
has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited
advice on how to cycle from motorists. *Resist such urges.

I resist such urges. *But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me.

I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. *The country road
was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing
lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6"
from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel.

Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane.
In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice
looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. *A
pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was
clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. *I thought "That
guy needs to take his lane NOW."

He didn't. *Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in
the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the
pavement. *That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between
us. *If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been
flattened.

We have a right to the road. *We shouldn't risk our lives out of
timidity or slavish "politeness."

- Frank Krygowski

The cyclists fear the worst predators driving superwide SUVs so it's
natural they stay out of their path.

On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote:
On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank wrote:
On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, wrote:



On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_°

wrote:
Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was
riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. I felt
like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her.

[1] With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're
driving in your truck you're a motorist.
While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it
has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited
advice on how to cycle from motorists. Resist such urges.

I resist such urges. But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me.

I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. The country road
was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing
lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6"
from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel.

Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane.
In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice
looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. A
pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was
clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. I thought "That
guy needs to take his lane NOW."

He didn't. Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in
the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the
pavement. That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between
us. If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been
flattened.

We have a right to the road. We shouldn't risk our lives out of
timidity or slavish "politeness."

- Frank Krygowski

yeah, gutter bunnies drool.
And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such
a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation
where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that
riding further to the left is actually safer. Conversations among
cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a
motor vehicle are quite another.

Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything.

Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter.

Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around
a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could
keep my schedule.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

On Sep 21, 10:17*am, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote:
On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote:

On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank *wrote:
On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, *wrote:

On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_°

*wrote:
Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was
riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt
like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her.

[1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're
driving in your truck you're a motorist.
While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it
has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited
advice on how to cycle from motorists. *Resist such urges.

I resist such urges. *But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me.

I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. *The country road
was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing
lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6"
from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel.

Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane.
In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice
looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. *A
pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was
clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. *I thought "That
guy needs to take his lane NOW."

He didn't. *Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in
the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the
pavement. *That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between
us. *If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been
flattened.

We have a right to the road. *We shouldn't risk our lives out of
timidity or slavish "politeness."

- Frank Krygowski

yeah, gutter bunnies drool.
And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such
a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation
where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that
riding further to the left is actually safer. *Conversations among
cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a
motor vehicle are quite another.

Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything.

Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter.

Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around
a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could
keep my schedule.

My girlfriend has been yelled by another lady, "Go home asshole!"
which we don't know how to interpret, "Take the lane" or "The whole
****ing road is mine!"

"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" wrote in message
...
On Sep 21, 10:17 am, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote:


My girlfriend has been yelled by another lady, "Go home asshole!"
which we don't know how to interpret, "Take the lane" or "The whole
****ing road is mine!"

http://tiny.cc/4swnd

Lucky it was just verbal. When you confront a motorist, you can't know
what to expect.

On Sep 21, 12:17*pm, "Duane Hebert" wrote:
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" wrote in ...

On Sep 21, 10:17 am, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote:

My girlfriend has been yelled by another lady, "Go home asshole!"
which we don't know how to interpret, "Take the lane" or "The whole
****ing road is mine!"

http://tiny.cc/4swnd

Lucky it was just verbal. *When you confront a motorist, you can't know
what to expect.

I didn't take it as a warning sign and I was spit on the same road.

Only hope is move to Bali:

http://groups.google.com/group/misc....96e4106114d21d

On Sep 21, 12:17*pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote:
On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote:

On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank *wrote:
On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, *wrote:

On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_°

*wrote:
Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was
riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt
like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her.

[1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're
driving in your truck you're a motorist.
While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it
has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited
advice on how to cycle from motorists. *Resist such urges.

I resist such urges. *But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me.

I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. *The country road
was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing
lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6"
from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel.

Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane.
In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice
looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. *A
pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was
clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. *I thought "That
guy needs to take his lane NOW."

He didn't. *Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in
the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the
pavement. *That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between
us. *If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been
flattened.

We have a right to the road. *We shouldn't risk our lives out of
timidity or slavish "politeness."

- Frank Krygowski

yeah, gutter bunnies drool.
And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such
a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation
where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that
riding further to the left is actually safer. *Conversations among
cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a
motor vehicle are quite another.

Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything.

Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter.

Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around
a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could
keep my schedule.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

I can't imagine why you feel a need to justify your lifestyle choices
to me.

On Sep 20, 8:57*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"DennisTheBald" wrote in message

...
[...] yeah, gutter bunnies drool.

And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such
a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation
where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that
riding further to the left is actually safer. *Conversations among
cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a
motor vehicle are quite another.

Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter.

The only drooling I know about are from fools like Dennis who regularly get
hit by motorists who resent them being on the road in the first place. Get
out of the way of motor vehicles if you want to live. Otherwise you will be
left drooling blood all over the highway as roadkill.

Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota

your old lady likes the way I drool you shameless cuckold

On 9/23/2010 4:52 PM, DennisTheBald who? wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:17 pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote:
On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote:

On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank wrote:
On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, wrote:

On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_°

wrote:
Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was
riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. I felt
like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her.

[1] With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're
driving in your truck you're a motorist.
While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it
has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited
advice on how to cycle from motorists. Resist such urges.

I resist such urges. But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me.

I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. The country road
was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing
lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6"
from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel.

Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane.
In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice
looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. A
pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was
clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. I thought "That
guy needs to take his lane NOW."

He didn't. Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in
the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the
pavement. That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between
us. If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been
flattened.

We have a right to the road. We shouldn't risk our lives out of
timidity or slavish "politeness."

- Frank Krygowski

yeah, gutter bunnies drool.
And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such
a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation
where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that
riding further to the left is actually safer. Conversations among
cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a
motor vehicle are quite another.

Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything.

Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter.

Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around
a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could
keep my schedule.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

Please honor the signature separator (i.e. "-- ").

I can't imagine why you feel a need to justify your lifestyle choices
to me.

Yep, and I am sure you (Dennis The Bald) never use any products or
services that involve motorized transport.

Whatever.

--
Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007
I am a vehicular cyclist.

"DennisTheBald" wrote in message
...
On Sep 20, 8:57 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
[...]
The only drooling I know about are from fools like Dennis who regularly
get
hit by motorists who resent them being on the road in the first place. Get
out of the way of motor vehicles if you want to live. Otherwise you will
be
left drooling blood all over the highway as roadkill.

your old lady likes the way I drool you shameless cuckold

**** you too Asshole!

****ing Regards,

Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota
aka
Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota