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Urge to yell at a cyclist
On Sep 15, 7:05*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"Tom Sherman °_°" wrote in ... On 9/15/2010 7:50 PM, Edward Dolan wrote: "Tom Sherman *wrote in message ... Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her. [1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance. She was right where she should have been. If you take the lane it is just matter of time until you are hit by a motor vehicle. Ed Dolan, as anyone who has practiced vehicular cycling methods will know, is wrong. *Furthermore, Mr. Dolan is promoting cyclist inferiority - motorist superiority. All Mr. Dolan is doing is attempting to prevent you from being killed on the road by a motorist. Those who advocate taking the lane are worse than criminals. It is one sure way of getting hit by a motor vehicle sooner or later. Or an angry confrontation with a driver who feels entitled to the road, where you got the most to lose. |
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Urge to yell at a cyclist
On Sep 16, 5:17*pm, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On Sep 16, 5:02*pm, DennisTheBald wrote: On Sep 15, 6:08*pm, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her. [1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're driving in your truck you're a motorist. While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited advice on how to cycle from motorists. *Resist such urges. I resist such urges. *But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me. I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. *The country road was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6" from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel. Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane. In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. *A pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. *I thought "That guy needs to take his lane NOW." He didn't. *Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the pavement. *That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between us. *If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been flattened. We have a right to the road. *We shouldn't risk our lives out of timidity or slavish "politeness." - Frank Krygowski The cyclists fear the worst predators driving superwide SUVs so it's natural they stay out of their path. |
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Urge to yell at a cyclist
On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote:
On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank wrote: On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, wrote: On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. I felt like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her. [1] With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're driving in your truck you're a motorist. While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited advice on how to cycle from motorists. Resist such urges. I resist such urges. But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me. I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. The country road was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6" from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel. Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane. In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. A pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. I thought "That guy needs to take his lane NOW." He didn't. Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the pavement. That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between us. If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been flattened. We have a right to the road. We shouldn't risk our lives out of timidity or slavish "politeness." - Frank Krygowski yeah, gutter bunnies drool. And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that riding further to the left is actually safer. Conversations among cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a motor vehicle are quite another. Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything. Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter. Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could keep my schedule. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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On Sep 21, 10:17*am, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote: On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote: On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank *wrote: On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, *wrote: On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_° *wrote: Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her. [1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're driving in your truck you're a motorist. While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited advice on how to cycle from motorists. *Resist such urges. I resist such urges. *But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me. I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. *The country road was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6" from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel. Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane. In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. *A pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. *I thought "That guy needs to take his lane NOW." He didn't. *Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the pavement. *That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between us. *If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been flattened. We have a right to the road. *We shouldn't risk our lives out of timidity or slavish "politeness." - Frank Krygowski yeah, gutter bunnies drool. And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that riding further to the left is actually safer. *Conversations among cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a motor vehicle are quite another. Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything. Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter. Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could keep my schedule. My girlfriend has been yelled by another lady, "Go home asshole!" which we don't know how to interpret, "Take the lane" or "The whole ****ing road is mine!" |
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Urge to yell at a cyclist
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" wrote in message
... On Sep 21, 10:17 am, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: My girlfriend has been yelled by another lady, "Go home asshole!" which we don't know how to interpret, "Take the lane" or "The whole ****ing road is mine!" http://tiny.cc/4swnd Lucky it was just verbal. When you confront a motorist, you can't know what to expect. |
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On Sep 21, 12:17*pm, "Duane Hebert" wrote:
"His Highness the TibetanMonkey & the Spirits of the Jungle" wrote in ... On Sep 21, 10:17 am, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: My girlfriend has been yelled by another lady, "Go home asshole!" which we don't know how to interpret, "Take the lane" or "The whole ****ing road is mine!" http://tiny.cc/4swnd Lucky it was just verbal. *When you confront a motorist, you can't know what to expect. I didn't take it as a warning sign and I was spit on the same road. Only hope is move to Bali: http://groups.google.com/group/misc....96e4106114d21d |
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Urge to yell at a cyclist
On Sep 21, 12:17*pm, Tom Sherman °_°
wrote: On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote: On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank *wrote: On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, *wrote: On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_° *wrote: Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. *I felt like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her. [1] *With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're driving in your truck you're a motorist. While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited advice on how to cycle from motorists. *Resist such urges. I resist such urges. *But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me. I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. *The country road was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6" from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel. Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane. In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. *A pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. *I thought "That guy needs to take his lane NOW." He didn't. *Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the pavement. *That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between us. *If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been flattened. We have a right to the road. *We shouldn't risk our lives out of timidity or slavish "politeness." - Frank Krygowski yeah, gutter bunnies drool. And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that riding further to the left is actually safer. *Conversations among cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a motor vehicle are quite another. Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything. Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter. Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could keep my schedule. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. I can't imagine why you feel a need to justify your lifestyle choices to me. |
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Urge to yell at a cyclist
On Sep 20, 8:57*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"DennisTheBald" wrote in message ... [...] yeah, gutter bunnies drool. And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that riding further to the left is actually safer. *Conversations among cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a motor vehicle are quite another. Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter. The only drooling I know about are from fools like Dennis who regularly get hit by motorists who resent them being on the road in the first place. Get out of the way of motor vehicles if you want to live. Otherwise you will be left drooling blood all over the highway as roadkill. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota your old lady likes the way I drool you shameless cuckold |
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Urge to yell at a cyclist
On 9/23/2010 4:52 PM, DennisTheBald who? wrote:
On Sep 21, 12:17 pm, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: On 9/20/2010 2:19 PM, DennisTheBald wrote: On Sep 16, 7:17 pm, Frank wrote: On Sep 16, 5:02 pm, wrote: On Sep 15, 6:08 pm, Tom Sherman °_° wrote: Today while driving my work truck, I passed a cyclist [1] that was riding less than ½ foot from the white line on a two-lane road. I felt like stopping and yelling "take the lane" at her. [1] With more than 12 feet of lateral clearance. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Whatever else you may or may not do at other times, when you're driving in your truck you're a motorist. While I certainly wouldn't purport myself to speak for all cyclists it has been my observation that in general cyclists love unsolicited advice on how to cycle from motorists. Resist such urges. I resist such urges. But the behavior of gutter bunnies dismays me. I passed a guy riding even worse just four days ago. The country road was deserted, visibility excellent, I moved entirely into the opposing lane to pass him, and yet he was _on_ the white line, less than 6" from where it dropped down at least an inch into gravel. Worse, I recall earlier this summer driving on a narrow country lane. In this case, we were heading west, and a lycra cyclist on a nice looking bike was heading east on the proper side of the road. A pickup truck was approaching the cyclist from his rear, and it was clear we'd all be at the same place at the same time. I thought "That guy needs to take his lane NOW." He didn't. Instead, he rode off the pavement, continuing riding in the grass at the side of the road, maybe a foot from the edge of the pavement. That's where he was when the pickup truck squeezed between us. If the cyclist had hit a bump in the grass, he could have been flattened. We have a right to the road. We shouldn't risk our lives out of timidity or slavish "politeness." - Frank Krygowski yeah, gutter bunnies drool. And if you find yourself cycling along in the same direction with such a person it might be appropriate to engage in some casual conversation where you might mention the somewhat counter intuitive idea that riding further to the left is actually safer. Conversations among cyclists are one thing, unintelligible shouts through the window of a motor vehicle are quite another. Yes, which of course is why I did not actually yell anything. Motorists fall way below gutter bunnies on the drool-o-meter. Well, I am not hauling a few hundred pounds of testing equipment around a multi-county area on a cargo trike, since I there is no way I could keep my schedule. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. Please honor the signature separator (i.e. "-- "). I can't imagine why you feel a need to justify your lifestyle choices to me. Yep, and I am sure you (Dennis The Bald) never use any products or services that involve motorized transport. Whatever. -- Tom Sherman - 42.435731,-83.985007 I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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Urge to yell at a cyclist
"DennisTheBald" wrote in message ... On Sep 20, 8:57 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] The only drooling I know about are from fools like Dennis who regularly get hit by motorists who resent them being on the road in the first place. Get out of the way of motor vehicles if you want to live. Otherwise you will be left drooling blood all over the highway as roadkill. your old lady likes the way I drool you shameless cuckold **** you too Asshole! ****ing Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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