Cycle Helmets : Bradley Wiggins Speaks Out

Eh oop.

Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.

Presumably he can expect poisonous tweets during his day of triumph....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

On 02/08/2012 09:22, The Todal wrote:

Eh oop.
Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets compulsory.
Presumably he can expect poisonous tweets during his day of triumph....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

What a sensible and reasonable chap he seems.

QUOTE:
Wiggins said making it illegal to cycle without a helmet would make the roads
safer "because ultimately, if you get knocked off and you ain't got a helmet
on, then how can you kind of argue". He added: "[People] shouldn't be riding
along with iPods and phones and things on and [they] should have lights and
all those things.

"So I think when there's laws passed for cyclists, then you're protected and
you can say, well, I've done everything to be safe." He added: "It's
dangerous and London is a busy city and a lot of traffic. I think we have to
help ourselves sometimes.

"I haven't lived in London for 10 to 15 years now and it's got a lot busier
since I was riding a bike as a kid round here, and I got knocked off several
times. But at the end of the day we've all got to co-exist on the roads.
Cyclists are not ever going to go away, as much as drivers moan, and as much
as cyclists maybe moan about certain drivers they are never going to go away,
so there's got to be a bit of give and take."
ENDQUOTE

On 02/08/2012 09:27, JNugent wrote:
On 02/08/2012 09:22, The Todal wrote:

Eh oop.
Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.
Presumably he can expect poisonous tweets during his day of triumph....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

What a sensible and reasonable chap he seems.

QUOTE:
Wiggins said making it illegal to cycle without a helmet would make the
roads safer "because ultimately, if you get knocked off and you ain't
got a helmet on, then how can you kind of argue". He added: "[People]
shouldn't be riding along with iPods and phones and things on and [they]
should have lights and all those things.

"So I think when there's laws passed for cyclists, then you're protected
and you can say, well, I've done everything to be safe." He added: "It's
dangerous and London is a busy city and a lot of traffic. I think we
have to help ourselves sometimes.

"I haven't lived in London for 10 to 15 years now and it's got a lot
busier since I was riding a bike as a kid round here, and I got knocked
off several times. But at the end of the day we've all got to co-exist
on the roads. Cyclists are not ever going to go away, as much as drivers
moan, and as much as cyclists maybe moan about certain drivers they are
never going to go away, so there's got to be a bit of give and take."
ENDQUOTE



Oh am I going to rub some faces in that!



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legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

"The Todal" wrote in message
...
Eh oop.

Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.

Presumably he can expect poisonous tweets during his day of triumph....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

It's about time a high-profile cyclist spoke out about cyclists sharing some
of the responsibility for their own safety.

On Aug 2, 9:31*am, "John Benn" wrote:
"The Todal" wrote in message

...

Eh oop.

Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.

Presumably he can expect poisonous tweets during his day of triumph....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

It's about time a high-profile cyclist spoke out about cyclists sharing some
of the responsibility for their own safety.

Good for Wiggins.

And as for idiot cyclists with earbuds plugged in listening to rap
crap how on earth can they be aware of the traffic around them if they
can't even hear it and their attention is on the 'music' anyway? The
other day I was nearly knocked down by an idiot not only cycling down
the Strand but texting at the same time. What next doing Facebook
whilst cycling? But its probably already been done.

And the idiots on Boris bikes cycling on pavements and going the wrong
way along one way streets are just as bad.

CJB

Cyclists need some

On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:22:53 +0100, The Todal wrote:

Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

And I'm sure everyone would consider that Lewis Hamilton is teh
ultimate expert on how to drive on the public road. Perhaps he'll
write teh next road traffic act.

Being able to ride fast in competition on closed roads does not make
you an expert on what is appropriate for leisure or commuting riding
on open roads. As has been repeatedly stated - if you think what
works for competitive cyclists must also apply to 'ordinary' cyclists
you need to explain why 'ordinary' drivers don't need nomex suits and
five point harnesses, and why you don't need to dress as a spaceman to
put fuel in your car.

regards, Ian SMith
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"Ian Smith" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:22:53 +0100, The Todal
wrote:

Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

And I'm sure everyone would consider that Lewis Hamilton is teh
ultimate expert on how to drive on the public road. Perhaps he'll
write teh next road traffic act.

Being able to ride fast in competition on closed roads does not make
you an expert on what is appropriate for leisure or commuting riding
on open roads. As has been repeatedly stated - if you think what
works for competitive cyclists must also apply to 'ordinary' cyclists
you need to explain why 'ordinary' drivers don't need nomex suits and
five point harnesses, and why you don't need to dress as a spaceman to
put fuel in your car.

Has Bradley gone down in your estimation?

On Thursday, August 2, 2012 9:48:06 AM UTC+1, Ian Smith wrote:
On Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:22:53 +0100, The Todal wrote:



Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of

Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets

compulsory.



http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898



And I'm sure everyone would consider that Lewis Hamilton is teh

ultimate expert on how to drive on the public road. Perhaps he'll

write teh next road traffic act.



Being able to ride fast in competition on closed roads does not make

you an expert on what is appropriate for leisure or commuting riding

on open roads. As has been repeatedly stated - if you think what

works for competitive cyclists must also apply to 'ordinary' cyclists

you need to explain why 'ordinary' drivers don't need nomex suits and

five point harnesses, and why you don't need to dress as a spaceman to

put fuel in your car.



regards, Ian SMith

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....and in other news Usain Bolt comments on pedestrian safety on the streets of Kingston.

I wonder whether Brad (PABBUH) would advocate the same thing in the Netherlands and Denmark to name but two. Ironically these are places where the've made the roads so safe for cyclists that maybe helmet use would make a difference. But in the UK wearing helmets is NOT going to make the roads safer; it's a secondary measure, dealing with mitigating the effects of the incident whereas the Dutch have addressed primary safety. Which is what we should do. And we should start by keeping on cycling.

I haven't seen anything about the incident yesterday to suggest that a helmet would have made any difference (I am happy to be corrected by someone who knows).

BTW, I agree with what he says about earplugs; I'd go further and apply the same to pedestrians.

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 02/08/2012 09:22, The Todal wrote:

Eh oop.
Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.
Presumably he can expect poisonous tweets during his day of triumph....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

What a sensible and reasonable chap he seems.

A sensible and reasonable person would allow it to the individual to decide
whether to wear a cycle helmet. A totalitarian socialist nutcase would
prefer to use the state to enforce it.

On 02/08/2012 10:47, LebesgueMeasure wrote:

"JNugent" wrote in message
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On 02/08/2012 09:22, The Todal wrote:

Eh oop.
Britain's most famous and successful cyclist now incurs the wrath of
Britain's cycling community by demanding laws to make cycle helmets
compulsory.
Presumably he can expect poisonous tweets during his day of triumph....

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-19090898

What a sensible and reasonable chap he seems.

A sensible and reasonable person would allow it to the individual to decide
whether to wear a cycle helmet. A totalitarian socialist nutcase would
prefer to use the state to enforce it.

You are hanging far too much on minor issues of road safety.

Or, if you really believe that someone who supports road safety measures for
cyclists is a "totalitarian socialist nutcase", only God knows what you think
of some other aspects of road traffic law, much of which doesn't even pretend
to be about safety.