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Short wheel base for beginner
Ken M wrote:
Hello, I posted here a few times last winter when I was experimenting with a home-built short wheel base bent. It was a less than successful attempt. Anyway, I was browsing some older threads, looking for recommendations on bikes for beginners. I see two are recommended a lot, the BikeE and the EZ1. From my limited experience with bents, I think I would prefer a SWB design. I have ridden a couple of LWB bikes and while they do give a nice ride, I still think I would prefer a SWB, does anyone have any suggestions for a beginner besides the BikeE? Ken Ken, I have ridden both a BikeE and a Rans Tailwind; both are classified as "compact long wheelbase" recumbents. Both have a low bottom bracket height and an upright position that beginners find comfortable and reassuring. Of the two, I would recommend the Rans. It has higher quality components, the Rans cro-mag frame flexes more over bumps (the standard BikeE with its aluminum frame and without the rear shock absorber was murder!) and the sitting position is more toward the center (as opposed to sitting over the rear wheel on the BikeE). In addition, the Rans seat is very comfortable. I don't have any personal experience with the EZ1, but I understand it is very heavy. I just happen to have a Rans Tailwind for sale that I've ridden for 8000 miles - I've upgraded to a Rans V2 on Christmas! Contact me at privately if you're interested. Regards, Jim |
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Jim Wylie wrote: Ken M wrote: Hello, I posted here a few times last winter when I was experimenting with a home-built short wheel base bent. It was a less than successful attempt. Anyway, I was browsing some older threads, looking for recommendations on bikes for beginners. I see two are recommended a lot, the BikeE and the EZ1. From my limited experience with bents, I think I would prefer a SWB design. I have ridden a couple of LWB bikes and while they do give a nice ride, I still think I would prefer a SWB, does anyone have any suggestions for a beginner besides the BikeE? Ken Ken, I have ridden both a BikeE and a Rans Tailwind; both are classified as "compact long wheelbase" recumbents. Both have a low bottom bracket height and an upright position that beginners find comfortable and reassuring. Of the two, I would recommend the Rans. It has higher quality components, the Rans cro-mag frame flexes more over bumps (the standard BikeE with its aluminum frame and without the rear shock absorber was murder!) and the sitting position is more toward the center (as opposed to sitting over the rear wheel on the BikeE). In addition, the Rans seat is very comfortable. I don't have any personal experience with the EZ1, but I understand it is very heavy. I just happen to have a Rans Tailwind for sale that I've ridden for 8000 miles - I've upgraded to a Rans V2 on Christmas! Contact me at privately if you're interested. Is the Rans (sic) Tailwind anything like this bike: http://www.RANSbikes.com/tailwind.htm? [1] Other than to point out the RANS Tailwind frame is made from 4130 chromium-molybdenum steel, not chromium-manganese steel, I agree with the above. Of course the BikeE is out of production, but both the RANS Tailwind and BikeE CT (and its predecessor) and AT models should be easy to find used (BikeE FX/RX models would be somewhat less common, with the NX and RoadE models being relatively rare). [1] I won the 2000 alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent AWARD FOR EFFECTIVELY MONITORING THE APPROPRIATE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS [2] [2] See http://groups.google.com/group/alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent/msg/d38f4253c556c402?dmode=source. -- Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley |
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Short wheel base for beginner
Johnny Sunset wrote:
[1] I won the 2000 alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent AWARD FOR EFFECTIVELY MONITORING THE APPROPRIATE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley Tommy, Tommy, Tommy You redefined the acronym! RANS = Really Anal Retentive Nazi Speller It's still dark in that closet, isn't it! Enjoy, Perry B |
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Perry Butler of Beyond Evansville, MN wrote: Johnny Sunset wrote: [1] I won the 2000 alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent AWARD FOR EFFECTIVELY MONITORING THE APPROPRIATE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley Tommy, Tommy, Tommy You redefined the acronym! RANS = Really Anal Retentive Nazi Speller It's still dark in that closet, isn't it! When people fail to capitalize all the letters in proper names like RANS and SRAM, an innocent puppy dies. It's a joke, and I plan to flog the deceased equine for all its worth and then some. -- Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley |
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"Johnny Sunset" wrote in message ups.com... Perry Butler of Beyond Evansville, MN wrote: Johnny Sunset wrote: [1] I won the 2000 alt.rec.bicycles.recumbent AWARD FOR EFFECTIVELY MONITORING THE APPROPRIATE USE OF CAPITAL LETTERS Tom Sherman - Fox River Valley Tommy, Tommy, Tommy You redefined the acronym! RANS = Really Anal Retentive Nazi Speller It's still dark in that closet, isn't it! When people fail to capitalize all the letters in proper names like RANS and SRAM, an innocent puppy dies. It's a joke, and I plan to flog the deceased equine for all its worth and then some. It is ever a delight for this old conservative to witness a couple of liberals having a falling out, and on the subject of who is more for homos! Yes, Ed Dolan is now rolling on the floor with laughter at these two numskulls arguing over nothing at all other than figments of their imaginations. I would like to warn Mr. Sherman that Mr. Butler, being from Minnesota like I am, is never going to give an inch or back off. He has been slighted by you and he will never recover from such an affront. He is more in favor of homos than you are and thinks it is just fine and dandy to be a homo. No one will get to the left of him on this issue. Certainly not Mr. Sherman! It is in the nature of all Minnesotans to be impossibly stubborn. Our damnable winters make us like this. Mr. Butler probably goes out on the frozen lake and sits in a shack all afternoon and tries to catch fish through the ice. But he never catches any fish and this has driven him around the bend. He is now stark raving mad with the frustration of it all. We are all stupid as donkeys here in Minnesota, but there is no one more stupid than a Minnesota liberal. Hells Bells, we almost gave this nation Humphry for President, didn't we? And what kind of idiot was Eugene McCarthy? But for absolute, TOTAL idiocy you have go to our neighboring state of South Dakota where they come up with supreme jackasses like McGovern and Dashle. I rest my case! Regards, Ed Dolan - Minnesota |
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