"Do not feed the dinosaur! Ride a bike!"

In article et,
necromancer wrote:

Ladies and Gentlemen (and I use those words loosely), donquijote1954
said in rec.autos.driving:


snip a bunch of crap

Yes, he does write a lot of crap... and I'm pro-bicycle! That's why
I've killfiled him and don't waste my time reading him. When he's
changed sock puppets, I've killfiled those too. Only way to deal with
folks like that.

"donquijote1954" wrote in message
ups.com...
On Feb 21, 8:35 pm, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article . net,
"George Conklin" wrote:

And God drove a Plymouth. It says in the bible, "And in his Fury he
drove
them out."

God is also obviously an advocate of car pooling.

For sure, he would have taken all his disciples in two vans for long
distance touring. Then the bikes for local preaching. Something like
the Mormons, you know.


Had they invented white shirts back then?

wrote:

On Feb 22, 8:20 am, Mark Hickey wrote:
"George Conklin" wrote:

"Tim McNamara" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
"George Conklin" wrote:

And God drove a Plymouth. It says in the bible, "And in his Fury he
drove
them out."

God is also obviously an advocate of car pooling.

Correct, because it says in New Testament, "And the Disciples were all of
one Accord."

Hmmmm. Interesting. Old Testament - big gas-guzzling V8. By the
time of Christ, it was down to an efficient Japanese sedan. I wonder
if it's gonna be a Prius or a bicycle by the time of the second
coming?

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycleshttp://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

Witness the seeds of The Gospel of Mark.

Heh. But it's already been done. Sigh... woulda made a great read.

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

In article ,
Wayne Pein wrote:
Matthew T. Russotto wrote:

In article ,
Wayne Pein wrote:

We don't need to be kicked off OUR ancestral roads onto crummy Bike
Reservations for the convenience of motorists at our expense.


You don't have any ancestral roads. The ancestral roads belong to
cattle and horses and their drivers and riders.

Ooops. My bad. Let me rephrase.

We shouldn't be kicked off our ancestral PAVED roads onto crummy Bike
Reservations for the convenience of motorists at our expense.

It is a matter of historical record that bicycling groups were the first
to push the Good Roads Movement.

It's ALSO a matter of historical record that they basically failed.
And of course many paved roads pre-date the bicycle as well.

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In article ,
Mark Hickey wrote:

wrote:

On Feb 22, 8:20 am, Mark Hickey wrote:
"George Conklin" wrote:

"Tim McNamara" wrote in message
...
In article
. net,
"George Conklin" wrote:

And God drove a Plymouth. It says in the bible, "And in his
Fury he drove them out."

God is also obviously an advocate of car pooling.

Correct, because it says in New Testament, "And the Disciples
were all of one Accord."

Hmmmm. Interesting. Old Testament - big gas-guzzling V8. By the
time of Christ, it was down to an efficient Japanese sedan. I
wonder if it's gonna be a Prius or a bicycle by the time of the
second coming?

Witness the seeds of The Gospel of Mark.

Heh. But it's already been done. Sigh... woulda made a great read.

But not the Gospel of St. Habanerus.

In article ,
(Matthew T. Russotto) writes:

It is a matter of historical record that bicycling groups were the first
to push the Good Roads Movement.

It's ALSO a matter of historical record that they basically failed.

No they didn't. What happened was, since bicycles and automobiles
were more-or-less contemporary with each other, drivers usurped the
developing Good Roads Movement to their advantage. So the Good
Roads Movement was originally initiated and kick-started by
bicyclists. But the car drivers later stole it. At any rate, it
was primarily localized to a few urban centres, such as Chicago.
Until post WWII most roads were still hardpack dirt, which was
kinder to horse's hooves.

And of course many paved roads pre-date the bicycle as well.

In North America, they pre-date the automobile as well.
But in places like New Amsterdam, they did facilitate
pushing barrowfuls of commodities to the street markets.
In the city, streets exist to allow goods movement, and
to facilitate workers getting to their places of employment
by whatever means.

What really got roads paved in a hurry in North America was
the Cold War, and the perceived need to head for the hills
when the Tupolev bombers were coming. Then the H-bomb and
Sputnik happened, and we realized there was nowhere to go
anyways.

The transportation model we have now is the resultant tumor
of that old, pre-1956, obsolete outlook, fraught as it is
with the desire to move out of the city, and build fall-out
shelters, and stockpile cans of beans and rolls of toilet paper,
and have a car in order to survive mouse-fart A-bomb attacks
from overflying, prop-driven, Ruskie bomber planes.

What's really interesting is that so many people from that
era (I'm one) still think in those terms. A megaton H-bomb
is the same as a kiloton A-bomb to them. And a good ol'
motor vehicle will save them, like the SUV that starred in
Dante's Peak and drove over molten lava and through a boiling
lake, etc. Heh. Stoopido torpedoes, those who bought into that.


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Tim McNamara wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:
wrote:

On Feb 22, 8:20 am, Mark Hickey wrote:
"George Conklin" wrote:
"Tim McNamara" wrote
"George Conklin" wrote:

And God drove a Plymouth. It says in the bible, "And in his
Fury he drove them out."

God is also obviously an advocate of car pooling.

Correct, because it says in New Testament, "And the Disciples
were all of one Accord."

Hmmmm. Interesting. Old Testament - big gas-guzzling V8. By the
time of Christ, it was down to an efficient Japanese sedan. I
wonder if it's gonna be a Prius or a bicycle by the time of the
second coming?

Witness the seeds of The Gospel of Mark.

Heh. But it's already been done. Sigh... woulda made a great read.

But not the Gospel of St. Habanerus.

I'm afraid y'all know me to well to qualify for sainthood... ;-)

Mark Hickey
Habanero Cycles
http://www.habcycles.com
Home of the $795 ti frame

On Feb 22, 5:06 pm, Wayne Pein wrote:
Matthew T. Russotto wrote:
In article ,
Wayne Pein wrote:
We don't need to be kicked off OUR ancestral roads onto crummy Bike
Reservations for the convenience of motorists at our expense.

You don't have any ancestral roads. The ancestral roads belong to
cattle and horses and their drivers and riders.

Ooops. My bad. Let me rephrase.

We shouldn't be kicked off our ancestral PAVED roads onto crummy Bike
Reservations for the convenience of motorists at our expense.

It is a matter of historical record that bicycling groups were the first
to push the Good Roads Movement.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Good_Roads_Movement

Wayne

"I often hear now-a-days, the automobile instigated good roads; that
the automobile is the parent of good roads. Well, the truth is, the
bicycle is the father of the good roads movement in this country."
"The League fought for the privilege of building bicycle paths along
the side of public highways." "The League fought for equal privileges
with horse-drawn vehicles. All these battles were won and the
bicyclist was accorded equal rights with other users of highways and
streets."


VERY, VERY interesting. So the cyclists lead the way but now got no
right of way. Goliath beat David, and David is hiding under the bed. I
hope someday before the End of Times, everything goes back to normal.
Some say the Devil rules the world...

http://earthhopenetwork.net/bush%20a...pitch_fork.jpg

In article ,
Mark Hickey wrote:

Tim McNamara wrote:

Mark Hickey wrote:
wrote:

On Feb 22, 8:20 am, Mark Hickey wrote:
"George Conklin" wrote:
"Tim McNamara" wrote
"George Conklin" wrote:

And God drove a Plymouth. It says in the bible, "And in
his Fury he drove them out."

God is also obviously an advocate of car pooling.

Correct, because it says in New Testament, "And the Disciples
were all of one Accord."

Hmmmm. Interesting. Old Testament - big gas-guzzling V8. By
the time of Christ, it was down to an efficient Japanese sedan.
I wonder if it's gonna be a Prius or a bicycle by the time of
the second coming?

Witness the seeds of The Gospel of Mark.

Heh. But it's already been done. Sigh... woulda made a great
read.

But not the Gospel of St. Habanerus.

I'm afraid y'all know me to well to qualify for sainthood... ;-)

That doesn't seem to stop anybody else!

On Feb 22, 5:42 pm, "George Conklin"
wrote:
"donquijote1954" wrote in message

ups.com...

On Feb 21, 8:35 pm, Tim McNamara wrote:
In article . net,
"George Conklin" wrote:

And God drove a Plymouth. It says in the bible, "And in his Fury he
drove
them out."

God is also obviously an advocate of car pooling.

For sure, he would have taken all his disciples in two vans for long
distance touring. Then the bikes for local preaching. Something like
the Mormons, you know.

Had they invented white shirts back then?

No, there was no iron back then.