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Cornering - how?
I reckon this thread has covered most of the key issues on cornering,
but the best one I have heard yet was from Phil Anderson many years ago in a Bicycling Aust mag. Every mag seems to have an article on cornering every year or so, but this was the best for me. In summary - find a balance on each corner between inside hand pushing down and opposite foot. All the leg weight should be on the outside foot, not the seat or inside foot. Test this by lifting your bum slightly out of the seat. Individually pushing the inside hand down and putting weight on the outside foot move the bike in either direcition. Use the force of both of these in balance to corner quickly. I am not the quickest, but have gained confidence since trying this. Also, this will minimise the need for braking, which should be avoided as much as possible. I'd be interested in feed back. The above does not answer the question about leaning, but try this. The leaning will become irrelevant. Good luck. -- __________ Plan B is now in operation -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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Cornering - how?
Like everything else, there's no substitute for practice. Find someone who's
a good descender and follow them down a winding descent, watching what they do. But basically, as one well-known gravity-surfer said: "you've just got to switch your brain off and let it roll". And if you get into a position where you don't think you're going to make it round the bend, just lean the bike more and hope. Odds are you'll make it round. And if you don't, you're probably only going to lose some bark, which is a lot better than running wide and hitting a car or a tree or a fence or whatever... My favourite descents for practising cornering skills are Mt Buffalo and the Ovens Valley side of Tawonga Gap. Nick "hippy" wrote in message ... How do you guys corner on fast descents? Is your body on the same vertical axis as the bike while leaning in or do you lean the bike into the corner and keep you body more upright? Or maybe even lean your body and keep the bike upright (strange?). I seem to constantly understeer and run wide on fast, downhill corners and I'm wondering if my technique needs some work... |
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"Nick Payne" wrote in message
... Like everything else, there's no substitute for practice. Find someone who's a good descender and follow them down a winding descent, watching what they do. Well, I did the same climb and descent last night and it felt infinately better. The climb was faster - which is always good, but I was most happy with the descent. I went from being the last rider down to being the rider who was out-sprinted at the bottom for 2nd place :-) Basically, instead of hanging back and freaking out at each corner, braking too much, I simply followed the other guys down and stayed off the brakes as much as my chicken mentality would let me :-) Twas most cool! Next week, now I know where the sprint finish is, I'm going for the win :-) where you don't think you're going to make it round the bend, just lean the bike more and hope. Odds are you'll make it round. And if you don't, you're probably only going to lose some bark, which is a lot better than running wide and hitting a car or a tree or a fence or whatever... I'm still trying to get over the fear of leaning. My first race I crashed due to not leaning to get around a corner - braked, felt I was going too fast, panicked and ran straight into the mountain, knocking myself out... I grew up on flat ground - adjusting to mountains will take a loooong time. Thanks for the input everyone! hippy |
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Cornering - how?
Duncan wrote:
On the road (motorbike and pushie) I lean my body to the inside of the corner. This is because it reduces the amount the bike has to lean and keeps the steering geometry and suspension (active or passive) in it's best position. It's much easier to do this if you can guarantee good surface and don't have to worry about line changes. Im surprised your (motor)bike doesnt fall over during low speed turns, usually you lean out for low speed, and in for high speed turns. On a bike, you really dont have the weight of a motor, so into the corner is better. Off road I have a tendancy to keep my body upright and lean the bike. This is mainly so I can repsond quicker to bumps or line changes, the bike shifts quicker than I can. I cant believe we have gotten so far without someone saing ``go read sheldon brown''? Go read sheldon brown. till |
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"till" wrote in message
... Duncan wrote: On the road (motorbike and pushie) I lean my body to the inside of the corner. This is because it reduces the amount the bike has to lean and keeps the steering geometry and suspension (active or passive) in it's best position. It's much easier to do this if you can guarantee good surface and don't have to worry about line changes. Im surprised your (motor)bike doesnt fall over during low speed turns, usually you lean out for low speed, and in for high speed turns. The lean out turns are usualy only the very tight and slow full lock ones you might do for a u-turn. Even then it's not always needed. Forcing the bike to lean a bit more gives it a tighter turn at full lock, my bike is designed for turning at 200+ kph it's pretty awkward at 20 kph. There's always room to experiment, when I get a new set of tires I do a few rides leaning out as far as I can to scrub the tires. The bike handles like crap but it's better to scrub at lower speeds. |
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Damm what a topic!
I dream about cornering!! I've got a MTB background and cornering in the dirt is very different as tire traction is different. Fro those that need confidence I recomend finding a quiet corner at the bottom of a hill, preferably where you can use all the road without trafic, and practive the corner again and again. Try not to use your brakes (its only skin, it grows back) and vary your line and body position. I once heard of pushing your inside knee toward the head tube, I don't do it but it's an interesting idea. Practice accelerating out of the corner after you have the line and position correct. I bottomed my pedal a few weeks ago so I recomend building your confidence before you pedal through fast corners. Corners come naturally now and I use them in races to break from the bunch. They are the highlight of my road rides. Brian The chick got a great exit and made everyone hurt each corner. -- -------------------------- Posted via cyclingforums.com http://www.cyclingforums.com |
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