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Old August 18th 04, 09:12 AM
Robbie
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Me and my friend were discussing this earlier today... not sure if it's
a coincidence or if he's already seen this thread. But I don't really
think Street Freestyle is a very good name for it... Street or Street
Something or Something Street. Use the word street, but don't include
other styles in the name.

I think it should work sort of the way they hold local skate
competitions around here. Basically just have an area, you could use
slope to your advantage, small walls nearby would reduce the need for
extra obstacles. Basically you have a set up of lots of things to do and
you just give them like 2 or 3 minutes to do their stuff. Everyone gets
2 or 3 goes, then you narrow it down to a smaller amount and have a
finals.

Something around that, but I can imagine it working very well, I can
imagine alot of footplant developement if this became a competition.
Anyway, boxes to grind, rails to grind, sets of stairs, a few small
walls, one larger wall, and a few rails to gap across.


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Old August 18th 04, 09:12 AM
Robbie
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Me and my friend were discussing this earlier today... not sure if it's
a coincidence or if he's already seen this thread. But I don't really
think Street Freestyle is a very good name for it... Street or Street
Something or Something Street. Use the word street, but don't include
other styles in the name.

I think it should work sort of the way they hold local skate
competitions around here. Basically just have an area, you could use
slope to your advantage, small walls nearby would reduce the need for
extra obstacles. Basically you have a set up of lots of things to do and
you just give them like 2 or 3 minutes to do their stuff. Everyone gets
2 or 3 goes, then you narrow it down to a smaller amount and have a
finals.

Something around that, but I can imagine it working very well, I can
imagine alot of footplant developement if this became a competition.
Anyway, boxes to grind, rails to grind, sets of stairs, a few small
walls, one larger wall, and a few rails to gap across.


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Old August 18th 04, 09:12 AM
Robbie
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Me and my friend were discussing this earlier today... not sure if it's
a coincidence or if he's already seen this thread. But I don't really
think Street Freestyle is a very good name for it... Street or Street
Something or Something Street. Use the word street, but don't include
other styles in the name.

I think it should work sort of the way they hold local skate
competitions around here. Basically just have an area, you could use
slope to your advantage, small walls nearby would reduce the need for
extra obstacles. Basically you have a set up of lots of things to do and
you just give them like 2 or 3 minutes to do their stuff. Everyone gets
2 or 3 goes, then you narrow it down to a smaller amount and have a
finals.

Something around that, but I can imagine it working very well, I can
imagine alot of footplant developement if this became a competition.
Anyway, boxes to grind, rails to grind, sets of stairs, a few small
walls, one larger wall, and a few rails to gap across.


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Old August 18th 04, 02:25 PM
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I think it should just be called 'Street Unicycling'.

If you want to know what kind of obstacles to include, just watch videos
like U2 and write down all of the obstacles that the street guys (Dan
H., Dan D., etc.) use. Then find a place that has most of these
concrete (static) obstacles and add the others that can be moved in
(picnic tables, fun boxes, garbage cans, etc.). A small skatepark does
seem ideal though.

I think the rules for the comp should emulate a skate comp too, only
there may need to be extra time, since unicycling is a lot slower than
skateboarding. It also depends on how exhausted the contestants get
though.

For the armour issue, i think that you, once again, should follow the
lead of skate comps: just enforce riders to wear helmets for the good
pres. Anything else should be up to them, as it is in skate comps. I'm
sure that most riders will wear what they need to wear to prevent injury
anyway.

Finally, please record this competition (make a DVD?). I won't be going
to the comp, but i and most of the other uniers would still love to see
it.


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Old August 18th 04, 02:25 PM
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I think it should just be called 'Street Unicycling'.

If you want to know what kind of obstacles to include, just watch videos
like U2 and write down all of the obstacles that the street guys (Dan
H., Dan D., etc.) use. Then find a place that has most of these
concrete (static) obstacles and add the others that can be moved in
(picnic tables, fun boxes, garbage cans, etc.). A small skatepark does
seem ideal though.

I think the rules for the comp should emulate a skate comp too, only
there may need to be extra time, since unicycling is a lot slower than
skateboarding. It also depends on how exhausted the contestants get
though.

For the armour issue, i think that you, once again, should follow the
lead of skate comps: just enforce riders to wear helmets for the good
pres. Anything else should be up to them, as it is in skate comps. I'm
sure that most riders will wear what they need to wear to prevent injury
anyway.

Finally, please record this competition (make a DVD?). I won't be going
to the comp, but i and most of the other uniers would still love to see
it.


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Old August 18th 04, 02:25 PM
hecklar
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I think it should just be called 'Street Unicycling'.

If you want to know what kind of obstacles to include, just watch videos
like U2 and write down all of the obstacles that the street guys (Dan
H., Dan D., etc.) use. Then find a place that has most of these
concrete (static) obstacles and add the others that can be moved in
(picnic tables, fun boxes, garbage cans, etc.). A small skatepark does
seem ideal though.

I think the rules for the comp should emulate a skate comp too, only
there may need to be extra time, since unicycling is a lot slower than
skateboarding. It also depends on how exhausted the contestants get
though.

For the armour issue, i think that you, once again, should follow the
lead of skate comps: just enforce riders to wear helmets for the good
pres. Anything else should be up to them, as it is in skate comps. I'm
sure that most riders will wear what they need to wear to prevent injury
anyway.

Finally, please record this competition (make a DVD?). I won't be going
to the comp, but i and most of the other uniers would still love to see
it.


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Old August 18th 04, 03:22 PM
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why not call it StreetStyle ?
since the enfices is on the style


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Old August 18th 04, 03:22 PM
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why not call it StreetStyle ?
since the enfices is on the style


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Old August 18th 04, 03:22 PM
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why not call it StreetStyle ?
since the enfices is on the style


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Old August 18th 04, 06:10 PM
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hello. i havent replied yet in this thread, but i feel like i should
just because im a street rider. im extremely impressed that this type of
competition is seriously being considered. i think its important to have
a reason for street riders to get together with everyone else seeing as
some of us (including me) suck at trials and freestyle and muni haha.
but yeah, as for a name for it, i dont think that street freestyle is a
good name for it only because of the word "freestyle" in there. street
is its own style, it shouldnt be falsly associated with freestyle i dont
think. i mean freestyle is strictly a flat ground thing. street isnt. i
mean sure theres a lot of moves you could do flat ground and call it
street, but not everything. like hopping on the top of the tire i dont
consider street. so yeah, not street freestyle, but i think street is
what it should be call. thats what its called in every other sport
pretty much, so why not in unicycling as well? i know street unicycling
gets a lot of insporation from skateboarding, bmxing and inline skating,
so why not continue with the name of this type of competition.

as for the setup, thats tough. the problem is that the transitions at
most skateparks are too steep for unicycles, and the flat parts arent
long enough to get at least 2 rotations in (for example on the top of a
box that has a ramp going up to it on either side, the flat surface at
the top might be 1 and a half rotations which isnt always enough). that
isnt to say you can use a skatepark. its saying that you will have to
carefully look around to find a skate park that is ideal for unicycling.
you will alos have to bring in picnic tables and rails and everything
like that. and im sure it wouldnt be tough to make a pretty high and
long box and have a set of 7 or 8 stairs going down at the end with a
handrail on both sides. you will also have to have an infinite supply of
wax. because it will be needed.

oh, and i just came up with something. if you want it to be flowy, its
tough. mostly because its hard to do tricks without lining them up
first. so i think that for any obstacles (mostly stairs or downsloped
ledges and rails) that will be used a lot and you need a perfect lineup,
there should be markings on the ground as you ride up to them. these
will tell you how many revolutions away you are form the obstacle
(assuming you are on a 20 inch trials), and it allows you to try to line
up a pedal however you wish before you reach the obstacle. and perhaps
have different colours for each marking (example: green for 1 rev away,
yellow for 2, red for 3) or something like that. anyways, thats just a
thought and i think it would work.

as for judging or figuring out who wins, same as a skate comp. have like
5 or 6 judges, and kick out the highest and lowest scores and average
the others. and the time of each run should be probably 2 minutes. but
experiment with that somehow. factors taken into consideration should be
consistency, style, technical difficulty, and like how big you go...
odnt know how to put that.

for safety equipment, i think helmets should be manditory. no helmet, no
riding. i know it might seem contradictory for me to say that seeing as
i dont always wear mine, but i have begun to a lot more. my whole part
in spaced out will not have a helmet, but any other videos that ive
filmed for, my helmet has been on 95% of the time. i agree that we
should send a sensible message. as for anything else, i agree with
"hecklar". it should be the riders choice. i know for myself, i dont
wear anything besides a helmet. not because i feel that im safe, but
because i feel that they do restrict some movement that you need for
flopping aorund more than in trials. the only other people who flop
around like street riders are freestyle riders, and they certainly arent
wearing any. i bet they couldnt do some of the same stuff with leg
armour on, but im sure theyre allowed to (dont know the rules). as well,
i bet a lot of people will be using plastic pedals for grinding, and
they are a lot more shin friendly than metal ones.

another issue, i dont thikn there should be a restriction on the
unicycle being used. if they want to ride a 16", let them. if they want
to ride a coker with that crazy shifting hub, let them. i mean if having
a certain type of uni helps develop their style, then let it be. i think
however that it should be pedal driven (prohibiting bc wheels) but if
enough intrest arises, have a special category for bc wheels. but if you
restrict the type of unicycle, then it could potentially stop the
experimenting that street unicycling still needs since its still in its
beginning stages.

anyways, i think thats enough writing for now, i will write more if i
think of more. those are my thoughts john, and i think its awesome that
youre doing this. if i could be there to participate in it, i would.
unfortunately, funds are short these days, and my trials uni has been
broken completely (pretty much every part). you can write a response to
mine and disagree or agree with anything. im not attached to these ideas
lol. anyways, im off. good luck with this!

Kevin


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