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Ketone Esters
A couple of weeks ago we were talking about Ketone Esters. This is sort of a predigested results of dietary fat.
I had breakfast and because I was heading out on a difficult ride I drank a bottle of that stuff cut 50/50 with tap water. It has a taste reminiscent of fingernail polish. And that taste sticks with you. It didn't seem to do anything. I really dragged my butt up the 1,000 foot climb with 9-12% sections but I made it. It costs a small fortune so it hardly seems to be worth even talking about. Yesterday I had forgotten to go to the store and had nothing for breakfast before another hard ride so on an empty stomach I drank that stuff again. This time before I left I brushed my teeth and used Listerine mouthwash. That reduced the taste to merely unpleasant. I rode out to the target 19 miles and 1600 feet of climbing away and I didn't bonk which I would have expected to do what with no breakfast. At the coffee shop I had a roll and a coffee and came back. At the end of the ride I was not exceptionally tired and had a rather fast recovery. So perhaps this stuff is worth you giving a try if you're a sports rider. It did appear to work far better on an empty stomach than after having eaten.. And brushing the teeth and using mouthwash DEFINITELY was the way to go. |
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On 9/4/2019 3:40 PM, Tom Kunich wrote:
A couple of weeks ago we were talking about Ketone Esters. This is sort of a predigested results of dietary fat. I had breakfast and because I was heading out on a difficult ride I drank a bottle of that stuff cut 50/50 with tap water. It has a taste reminiscent of fingernail polish. And that taste sticks with you. It didn't seem to do anything. I really dragged my butt up the 1,000 foot climb with 9-12% sections but I made it. It costs a small fortune so it hardly seems to be worth even talking about. Yesterday I had forgotten to go to the store and had nothing for breakfast before another hard ride so on an empty stomach I drank that stuff again. This time before I left I brushed my teeth and used Listerine mouthwash. That reduced the taste to merely unpleasant. I rode out to the target 19 miles and 1600 feet of climbing away and I didn't bonk which I would have expected to do what with no breakfast. At the coffee shop I had a roll and a coffee and came back. At the end of the ride I was not exceptionally tired and had a rather fast recovery. So perhaps this stuff is worth you giving a try if you're a sports rider. It did appear to work far better on an empty stomach than after having eaten. And brushing the teeth and using mouthwash DEFINITELY was the way to go. I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote:
I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. -- JS |
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James wrote:
On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. During one long ride where I was starting to bonk, the combination of a Cornish pastie and a half litre of chocolate milk was damn near miraculous, so maybe there’s an optimum amount of meat. |
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On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 00:06:25 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone
wrote: James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. During one long ride where I was starting to bonk, the combination of a Cornish pastie and a half litre of chocolate milk was damn near miraculous, so maybe there’s an optimum amount of meat. Actually the body digests protein relatively slowly so perhaps the beef wasn't what made the difference. The gravy and pastry might well have been the real energy producers :-) -- cheers, John B. |
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On 5/9/19 6:46 pm, John B. wrote:
On Thu, 5 Sep 2019 00:06:25 +0000 (UTC), Ralph Barone wrote: James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. During one long ride where I was starting to bonk, the combination of a Cornish pastie and a half litre of chocolate milk was damn near miraculous, so maybe there’s an optimum amount of meat. Actually the body digests protein relatively slowly so perhaps the beef wasn't what made the difference. The gravy and pastry might well have been the real energy producers :-) I read somewhere that milk is quite good to rehydrate with. The fat and solids somehow slow down the processing and the body can absorb the water well and retain it rather than it passing through as if you drink straight water. Of course it would be bad if you have some milk intolerance. -- JS |
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On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 00:06:25 +0000, Ralph Barone wrote:
James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. During one long ride where I was starting to bonk, the combination of a Cornish pastie and a half litre of chocolate milk was damn near miraculous, so maybe there’s an optimum amount of meat. IMU, it is the chocolate milk that gave you the boost. |
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On Friday, 6 September 2019 03:54:35 UTC-4, news18 wrote:
On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 00:06:25 +0000, Ralph Barone wrote: James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. During one long ride where I was starting to bonk, the combination of a Cornish pastie and a half litre of chocolate milk was damn near miraculous, so maybe there’s an optimum amount of meat. IMU, it is the chocolate milk that gave you the boost. I've read that chocolate milk is an ideal recovery drink. Cheers |
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news18 wrote:
On Thu, 05 Sep 2019 00:06:25 +0000, Ralph Barone wrote: James wrote: On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. During one long ride where I was starting to bonk, the combination of a Cornish pastie and a half litre of chocolate milk was damn near miraculous, so maybe there’s an optimum amount of meat. IMU, it is the chocolate milk that gave you the boost. Oh yeah. Definitely the chocolate milk. But the Cornish pastie tasted great and I didn’t hurl afterwards, so it was also appreciated. |
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On 9/4/2019 4:42 PM, James wrote:
On 5/9/19 7:20 am, AMuzi wrote: I don't know. I'm happy that you are happy. If this works for you, by all means do it more. Your post reminded me of Chalo's all time pithy RBT comment about cycling-specific energy bars and drinks, "I just eat actual food." Works for me too. I ate a meat pie mid ride once. The day was cold. The pie was hot. Seemed like a good idea at the time. It wasn't though. I was regurgitating meat all the way home. Some actual food is counter productive. It's a good story though! At 85 miles into a sunny but windy 40F late September century, my friend and I were just out of everything and stopped to eat some field corn (dairy cow maize, not sweet corn). The effect was miraculous and within minutes we were back riding. -- Andrew Muzi www.yellowjersey.org/ Open every day since 1 April, 1971 |
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