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Old August 24th 11, 03:04 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist

"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at traffic
lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked down cyclist
Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September 29 last year.
Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to work at BAE when
the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of the site.

He died 10 days later in hospital.

Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless driving
when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge rejected a
claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic and
therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.

Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike at
the very last moment."

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto...eath_1_3706216

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Old August 24th 11, 03:32 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Bertie Wooster
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:21 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at traffic
lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked down cyclist
Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September 29 last year.
Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to work at BAE when
the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of the site.

He died 10 days later in hospital.

Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless driving
when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge rejected a
claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic and
therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.

Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike at
the very last moment."

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto...eath_1_3706216


20 weeks!?! How cheap can a life be???
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Old August 24th 11, 03:40 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
JNugent[_7_]
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist

On 24/08/2011 15:32, Bertie Wooster wrote:

"Simon Mason" wrote:


"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at traffic
lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked down cyclist
Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September 29 last year.
Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to work at BAE when
the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of the site.
He died 10 days later in hospital.
Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless driving
when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge rejected a
claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic and
therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.
Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike at
the very last moment."
http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto...eath_1_3706216


20 weeks!?! How cheap can a life be???


ALl due to the circumstances of the case, presumably.

Neither of us know what they were and so our comments are effectively
meaningless (well, at least, yours are; I have kept mine to myself).

There was a time (and quite recent at that) when a careless driving charge
(irrespective of the outcome) could not lead to a prison sentence at all. One
has to assume that if the prosecution had thought they could make CDBDD
stick, they'd have gone for it. But it *is* an assumption, because as we
already know, neither of us knows what happened.

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Old August 24th 11, 05:00 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Mr Pounder
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist


"Simon Mason" wrote in message
. uk...
"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at
traffic lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked
down cyclist Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September
29 last year. Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to
work at BAE when the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of
the site.

He died 10 days later in hospital.

Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless
driving when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge
rejected a claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic
and therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.

Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike
at the very last moment."

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto...eath_1_3706216

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Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/


Anybody who rides a bicycle on the A59 Samlesbury is stupid. I know the
road, it is a very fast road.
The cyclist just should have not been there.




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Old August 24th 11, 05:19 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_4_]
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist

On Aug 24, 5:00*pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

. uk...





"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at
traffic lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked
down cyclist Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September
29 last year. Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to
work at BAE when the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of
the site.


He died 10 days later in hospital.


Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless
driving when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge
rejected a claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic
and therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.


Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike
at the very last moment."


http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto..._cyclist_death...


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/


Anybody who rides a bicycle on the A59 Samlesbury is stupid. I know the
road, it is a very fast road.
The cyclist just should have not been there.



The court did not share your opinion, Mr P.
The judge put the blame squarely on the driver for speeding to try
(and fail) to beat a red light.
He also saw through his wriggle of being spooked by his own squealing
brakes and therefore (?) speeding up.

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Old August 24th 11, 06:38 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 15:04:21 +0100, "Simon Mason"
wrote:

"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at traffic
lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked down cyclist
Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September 29 last year.
Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to work at BAE when
the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of the site.

He died 10 days later in hospital.

Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless driving
when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge rejected a
claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic and
therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.

Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike at
the very last moment."

http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto...eath_1_3706216



It looks to me like the cyclists had most likely also gone through his light
before it had turned to green How else would he have get there at the same
time as the car?

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Old August 24th 11, 06:44 PM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Judith[_4_]
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist

On Wed, 24 Aug 2011 09:19:50 -0700 (PDT), Simon Mason
wrote:

On Aug 24, 5:00*pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

. uk...





"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at
traffic lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked
down cyclist Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September
29 last year. Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to
work at BAE when the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of
the site.


He died 10 days later in hospital.


Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless
driving when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge
rejected a claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic
and therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.


Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike
at the very last moment."


http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto..._cyclist_death...


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/


Anybody who rides a bicycle on the A59 Samlesbury is stupid. I know the
road, it is a very fast road.
The cyclist just should have not been there.



The court did not share your opinion, Mr P.
The judge put the blame squarely on the driver for speeding to try
(and fail) to beat a red light.
He also saw through his wriggle of being spooked by his own squealing
brakes and therefore (?) speeding up.



Could you tell us where you read the full details of the incident please as I
can't find them
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Old August 25th 11, 09:12 AM posted to uk.rec.cycling
Simon Mason[_4_]
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Default RLJ driver gets jail sentence for killing cyclist

On Aug 24, 5:00*pm, "Mr Pounder"
wrote:
"Simon Mason" wrote in message

. uk...





"A motorist who caused the death of a cyclist by failing to stop at
traffic lights has been jailed for 20 weeks. Brian Creasey, 51, knocked
down cyclist Ian Hammel near BAE in Samlesbury on the morning of September
29 last year. Engineer Mr Hammel, 53, from Penwortham, was on his way to
work at BAE when the collision occurred on the A59, near the entrance of
the site.


He died 10 days later in hospital.


Creasey, of Fulwood Row, Preston, admitted causing death by careless
driving when he appeared at Preston Crown Court yesterday. The judge
rejected a claim by Creasey a squeal of his brakes had caused him to panic
and therefore accelerate, going through the lights on amber on the A59.


Creasey had told the court he had thought there was enough time to get
through the light while it was on amber and added he saw Mr Hammel's bike
at the very last moment."


http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/moto..._cyclist_death...


--
Simon Mason
http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/


Anybody who rides a bicycle on the A59 Samlesbury is stupid. I know the
road, it is a very fast road.
The cyclist just should have not been there.


According to the comments, the dead man crossed the road on foot and
so was totally innocent.

--
Simon Mason

 




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